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Huge fight with LDR partner. Is this relationship ending?

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CallyT · 29/07/2024 19:19

My partner and I live three hours apart due to his job. We met in my city and then he moved. We've been together a year. For the record he is on the spectrum and doesn't make friends easily.

So we currently can't see each other until next month or so I thought (as he is going to a wedding abroad and I couldn't go).

He calls me tonight and casually mentions he will be in my city on Thursday and Friday to spend time with a new colleague. Digging further this is a woman he just met through work last week (she lives on another continent). He plans to show her round, have dinner and take her to a gallery. He then said he hoped to squeeze in seeing me!!

Well I lost it. Asked how he could be considering coming to my city and not see me and was he going on a date?

It took a really long time for him to say it was just friendly networking and that he told her he had a partner. I could not believe he was seriously considering wining and dining her and not seeing me.

So now he is going to see me but it has opened a conversation. He says he wants to be able to make new female friends and not be controlled. I said I won't be making new male friends

We have been very happy and I'm honestly stunned by this. Am I over reacting?

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CallyT · 30/07/2024 10:48

@Createausername1970 thanks. He does sound genuine and to have reflected, so I will have the conversation.

He's now making plans for us instead as it should have been.

I can only assume he decided throwing away a year long relationship for a 1-2 day dalliance (however supposedly platonic), wasn't worth it).

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Createausername1970 · 30/07/2024 09:16

CallyT · 30/07/2024 08:27

@Createausername1970 yes I am definitely still feeling emotional this morning.

I'm glad he came to his senses on his own and has apologised. But he still planned to do this and I still have feelings about that.

He now says he majorly fucked up and should have put me first. And that there is no excuse. I feel hurt because he is all I want and thought that same in reverse, but now there is a seed of doubt.

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Your feelings are totally valid, I would have been very hurt and upset too.

From the advantage of being a lot older, and having been round the block and back again a few times, I think that, possibly, because he does feel secure in the relationship with you that he thought this was OK.

I have done a few stupid things over the years, and assumed DH would be OK about it, and just not thought it through. Because I knew it was all good from my point of view, I just didn't think to run it past him. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

If everything else is good, then give him the benefit of doubt and talk it through. Listen to what he has to say and put your point of view rationally.

🙂

CallyT · 30/07/2024 08:49

@senua we haven't talked about it in detail.

At the moment he has some flexibility and I recently started working at a new job where I can mostly work from anywhere with a caveat.

So the immediate plan was for me to be with him more at his and see how that goes. More than that yet to be discussed. So far we have equally visited each other.

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senua · 30/07/2024 08:39

What is the long-term plan, btw? Were you intending to carry on being long distance once marriedGrin or was one of you going to move? Who was doing the moving? Is he likely to ask you to move again, to be a trailing spouse. Is that what you want?

CallyT · 30/07/2024 08:27

@Createausername1970 yes I am definitely still feeling emotional this morning.

I'm glad he came to his senses on his own and has apologised. But he still planned to do this and I still have feelings about that.

He now says he majorly fucked up and should have put me first. And that there is no excuse. I feel hurt because he is all I want and thought that same in reverse, but now there is a seed of doubt.

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ElizaMulvil · 30/07/2024 08:13

Found out!

ElizaMulvil · 30/07/2024 08:11

It's over. No man ( autistic or not) decides to see another woman when he could be seeing the woman he loves.She's found out about you and cancelled.

He's trying to keep you on side until he finds someone better. He's just not that into you. Look elsewhere. You're wasting your time with him.

Createausername1970 · 30/07/2024 07:24

CallyT · 30/07/2024 01:10

Big update:

He messaged to say he has now cancelled plans with the woman completely and if I will still have him he will come to see me instead.

He said he also wanted to apologize for behaving in an unacceptable manner and asked if we can talk further tomorrow...

That's a good step.

At least you will be able to talk to him in person.

Get it straight in your head what you want to say, what upset you and why. Say it out loud to yourself a few times. Calm some of the emotions you are currently feeling, as these types of conversations go better if they are not emotion-fuelled.

I hope you sort it out 🙂

Kitkatcatflap · 30/07/2024 01:39

Nah, that all sounds a bit suspicious, especially as he didn't volunteer the information - you had to dig a bit. At best he is taking you for granted, at worst he is just not that into you and keeping you on back burner.

He can't see you for a month yet he can make time to wine and dine a new female colleague. As she's new to the country he could have invited her to join you both for dinner - another female may have made her feel more comfortable, but he didn't.

CallyT · 30/07/2024 01:10

Big update:

He messaged to say he has now cancelled plans with the woman completely and if I will still have him he will come to see me instead.

He said he also wanted to apologize for behaving in an unacceptable manner and asked if we can talk further tomorrow...

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UnRavellingFast · 30/07/2024 00:50

Please don’t be played OP.

Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 30/07/2024 00:36

On the generous side of interpretation, could it be that he volunteered to take this person to your city, realised it wasn't quite the right thing to do, hid it a bit and now doesn't feel he can back down on this occasion as it's all arranged.

Just a thought.

I mean nothing about this seems terribly sensible or in line with what you think you know about him, and it's not the kind of thing you can discuss on the phone easily. I don't know, I'd be very very annoyed by this, and it wouldn't be ok for me for the future either. Perhaps he has just stuffed up and now is finding it difficult to back out.

It's good you are getting to know him better- even if it isn't what you want to hear or see. That's how you get to know whether it would work longterm or when kids arrive. It really is the test of how you get on over months, years and during problems that shows you who someone is.

It might yet turn out ok, I am usually very sceptical of such stories but I do wonder here if he's done something stupid (I mean the plan, nothing with this lady as yet) and is now rather stuck because you've called it out.

voiceofastar · 30/07/2024 00:36

He's making an awful lot of effort for a woman he's just met

CallyT · 30/07/2024 00:29

@KreedKafer the odd thing is that he doesn't have form for behaving this way. So while it feels like a power play now, there is no pattern of him behaving in other power play-y ways. That's what makes it so odd. But I suppose a year isn't very long.

It just come as a complete curveball. He has been such a solid and realise guy since day one so I am struggling with this seemingly overnight change.

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KreedKafer · 30/07/2024 00:22

Having friends of the opposite sex is fine. Prioritising time with them over you on the one weekend in a month when he’s going to be in the same city as you is not fine. It would also not be fine if it was a male friend, in fact, because he would be putting them before you. You are in a long distance relationship and he has all the bloody time in the world to socialise with friends in his own city when you’re not around; it’s really shitty for him to make a point of doing that on your bloody doorstep instead of spending some rare time with you.

I was in an LDR when I was much younger and my ex used to pull this sort of stunt all the time. It’s basically an unpleasant, humiliating power play designed to show you that he’s the one controlling the relationship.

CallyT · 30/07/2024 00:01

@lavenderlou we have an arrangement for me to stay at his place for a week or longer late next month.

This whole plan is kind of insane because he is flying to another continent on Saturday for a wedding. And he's coming to my city Thursday/Friday now. So really we would have one night together to discuss this which isn't ideal.

@Alwaystimeforacupoftea well just before we hung up he suggested he is open to compromise but what does this mean? I think in the grand scheme a lunch or event here or there is ok. Travelling to your partner's city for plans with another woman is not.

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Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 29/07/2024 23:56

The thing is though- the OP did say, that's not ok behaviour, and he said tough, I want to make new female friends and stay in cities with them and take them out, so that's the deal. If it was all to do with his lack of understanding of social norms, then surely he'd be worried he was doing the wrong thing, as it is he's asserted his right to continue, even when the OP has said she doesn't think this is normal behaviour. Going to professional events is normal, drinks with other colleagues, normal, going off the two of them on a weekend trip and hiding you are going with a woman, not normal.

lavenderlou · 29/07/2024 23:56

Have you made arrangements so that you will be seeing him for longer? I wouldn't make any decisions until you've had a chance to talk to him in a calmer environment. Then you can explain how you feel and see how he responds.

Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 29/07/2024 23:53

Making a new friend would be something like having a coffee with them one lunchtime, not being so overfriendly you travel three hours to take them out and show them round a new city and go for dinner with them- at the very least this is unprofessional and doesn't set clear boundaries for the other person. I socialise a lot with work and this would not be something I would expect when I visited another country at all, a dinner, partners invited, yes, but not a weekend of trips out with this colleague at a long distance from the original place they had met, it's not even like he said I'll show you the sites in his original city!

I think your antenna are up for a reason, he's making a lot of excuses of why he can't visit and all of a sudden he can. He's hidden the sex of the person. He's left it weeks and weeks to see you.

I think he's being honest because you asked directly, he may not even know himself what he's up to, but it's not professional or sensible behaviour.

It must be very upsetting to hear all this when you have been talking about parents meeting and marriage but it's better to know he has very different views of acceptable friendships to you and that most likely is a deal-breaker.

CallyT · 29/07/2024 23:28

Also not to sound utterly crass but we've been apart 2.5 weeks and I'd be chomping at the bit to shag his brains out if I was in his city this week.

Our sex life is good so this lack of being keen as usual also seems odd.

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CallyT · 29/07/2024 23:27

@Fifferfefferfeff thanks for your perspective.

The facts so far are that he and this woman met professionally in his current city, he was with her again at another professional event last night and now he will be showing her round my city. I have no idea why she will be in my city or if he has essentially suggested a trip from where they both are.

We have been seeing each other frequently but now due to his wedding abroad this weekend and my time on a theatre tour it has to be a painful 5 weeks.

But lo and behold he actually can make the time to come to my city - just not to see me.

I'm afraid he didn't volunteer the information that the woman knows about me, I asked and I hope he has been honest with her.

Even if I can gain a deeper understanding of autism, it won't allow me to be ok with this sort of thing. If we somehow work this out obviously I will strive to but it's a worry.

I love him and I'm very upset. I want this to work out.

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lavenderlou · 29/07/2024 23:22

Yes I specifically said I felt this shows a lack of empathy for me.

I hope you don't mind my asking but have you got much background information about autism? Lack of empathy is an inherently autistic trait. I don't think you can judge a lack of empathy in an autistic person in the same way you can a neurotypical person. It's not about being inherently selfish, it's just a part of the autistic brain that often doesn't work in the same way. I'm not saying that you have to be ok with that - it might be that being in a relationship with someone with autism might not be for you. Or you may have to be more explicit than you think in explaining why some actions are not OK.

I don't have experience of a partner with autism but do have a sibling and a DC with autism and have found a few books which have helped me to understand some of the more challenging things they do. I'm sure there must be some available for partners/spouses.

Fifferfefferfeff · 29/07/2024 23:22

Createausername1970 · 29/07/2024 22:06

If he hadn't given you cause for concern previously, then don't do anything rash. Let him know you found this difficult and you need to talk it through.

You said he has difficulty making friends, and tends to have female rather than male friends. My ND son is 22 and that applies to him.

I obviously can't say for sure either way, but I would edge more to your boyfriend being ND thoughtless, rather than he has lost the spark.

As I said, he may be your soulmate and a lovely partner - but there will probably be a few incidents along the way that you will be very annoyed about, that he needs to have explained to him.

I absolutely agree with this.

Fifferfefferfeff · 29/07/2024 23:14

I'm in a long distance relationship with a man in a city a few hours away, also, and, although I can understand why you're hurt, I can see this from a different angle.

When I read your post, I read it as DP had heard a colleague was coming to your city from a distant country, offered to meet up with her (the long journey being ok in this situation as she's come a much longer distance) thinking it would be nice to see you as well.

I think if my DP did this, I'd perhaps expect him to invite me to some of the day or evening (not all of it), or to ask if he could stay at my place.

I'd only be upset if he had told me he couldn't possibly see me for a month (rather than us agreeing on a month until we next met, due to both being busy). At the moment my DP and I are having a month apart as we're both tired from travelling to see each other, but if my DP suddenly had a friend he wouldn't ever see otherwise come to my city, I'd be ok with it.

It's quite normal to have friends of the opposite sex, by the way. Yesterday my DP spent hours with a female friend (talking through some of our relationship problems with her!) and I'm happy. I'm going to my ex's birthday tomorrow and he's happy with that.

I wouldn't assume your DP is cheating or going on a date. He's said he's told her about you; he's told you about her and he wants to see you. If everything else has been going well, I'd perhaps explain to him why you're hurt that he seemed not to have time to visit you, yet now has time after all, but I wouldn't expect him not to have female friends, especially as he finds friendships hard as it is.

CallyT · 29/07/2024 22:54

Yes on reflection that's exactly it @DeliciousApples

He travelled to see me two weeks ago from quite a distance and I don't think I've been blind in any way. He has been quite intentional before now with making me a priority and showing serious intent. The point is we agreed to see each other as much we could when h moved for this job.

It has left me very hurt and confused. Haven't even eaten dinner tonight Ive been so out of sorts.

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