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Why are people dropping me like a hot potato? Is there something inherently wrong with me :(

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Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:18

Have name changed for this but am a few years long user.
Just what the title says really 😢feels like no body bothers with me much any more. Friends, family etc. I feel there never any reciprocation, almost like if I didn't bother then I wouldn't see anyone iyswim. Dunno just making me feel a bit sad at the moment.

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Lolatusernamesuggestions · 30/07/2024 09:39

I don't know the answer but I'm in a similar boat.
Tell you what, if you want to smile OP. Search pretty green eyes chicken fried rice into Google. It's bound to cheer you up.
There are some good articles about how friendships dwindle as you get older. I don't have the links.

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:37

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 09:28

Why don’t you gently tell your friend what she’s doing wrong then?

I’ve had to have an open conversation with her last month about how we’re not as close and I’m finding it hard to communicate with her as she doesn’t seem to want to hear about my life. She profusely apologised, cried, said she didn’t want to lose me.

But instantly went back to the same problematic communication style. My OH witnessed her apologise in one breath then do exactly the same thing again and the moment she was out of earshot, said, “FFS she hasn’t got a clue has she?! You’d literally just told her then she did it again! It’s just who she is now, she can’t really be a good friend to anyone at the moment.”

There’s only so much anyone can do!

BibbleandSqwauk · 30/07/2024 09:33

Is it an age thing? I'm approaching 50 and have had a few conversations with similar aged friends and colleagues where we look back at even just a few years ago, we'd have big nights out, birthday drinks etc and now we all rarely feel like it... It's not a reflection of the friendship just our own energy levels, time available, lots of us are managing older parents, challenges from teen kids, divorced, single parenting etc.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:32

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:28

Yes

No

Tagyoureit · 30/07/2024 09:32

Yep I feel the same.

My friends seem to have disappeared, though walking past the local pub and seeing a couple of them sat outside together was just lovely and I know they saw me but yet no invite to join them. I don't really bother with them now, just polite chit chat whenever we see each other but from those chats, I know there's been dinners, drinks etc all without me.

I've got family members that never seem to want to come to our house but will always go to other family members house who they forever bitch about so I gave up asking.

Fuck em, life's too short to be hung up on it, I was upset to begin with but there's nothing I can do so no point fretting over it.

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:28

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:27

Constructive?

Yes

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 09:28

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:16

Please don’t take this the wrong way OP.

Firstly it’s most likely that people are just busy and thoughtless, not that it’s an excuse and it isn’t hurtful.

But…if it’s happening on multiple levels maybe it’s something to do with your communication style that you’ve been unaware of?

One of my closest friends has recently ended up being cut off by quite a few people, even family members and she has no idea why. She’s really upset and was saying, “I can’t understand why this keeps happening and what I’ve done.”
And I’m sat there nodding and sympathising and making all the right noises and thinking I know exactly what it is and I’ve come really close to doing the same but won’t because I deeply care for you!

She’s completely unaware but since having kids and becoming a “crunchy mum”, she’s lost the ability to talk about anything that isn’t her or her kids. She never asks reciprocal questions. Quite serious things are happening in her friends’ and family’s worlds and she’ll say “how are you?” but doesn’t want the real response and will avoid talking about what’s going on in her friends’ lives.

I’ve been in a room with her where friend 1 was talking about their toddler needing a new bed but them not being able to afford one and friend 2 had just been made redundant but wasn’t eligible for redundancy pay so was worried sick about money (single mum with a mortgage) and within seconds, close friend said, “Well, I’ve been offered a huge promotion (at the same workplace where the redundancy happened ) and I’m going to treat myself to a Chanel bag with my first new wage. I deserve it!” I was sitting there thinking, “FFS read the room!” Unsurprisingly, those friends have been meeting up without her since and she can’t make the connection.

She’s completely unaware of how she comes across. It’s not done deliberately. She thinks by talking about herself and the kids all the time, she’s bonding with us but she’s actually alienating us because we’ll meet up, either one on one or in a group and she’ll dominate the conversation.

And completely forget the details of what’s going on in anyone’s life. “Oh yeah, your sister died, sorry baby brain I forgot! When’s the funeral? Oh it was last week…oh I’d have come if I’d have known as we got on so well…oh yes you’re right, you did text me and let me know…I’m just so busy these days with the kids I forget to reply…sorry. Did I tell you that Ginny won Star of the Week at Forest School? Yes, I have had to explain though to Gigi that we shine in different ways as it can be hard to see a sibling recognised and you can end up feeling overlooked so I made her a special Star of the Week for potty training at home to keep her emotionally regulated…”

She used to be really lovely and has no idea that everyone is just gradually getting more and more done with her. And it’s hard to say, “friend, we don’t enjoy socialising with you anymore. You’re acting in quite self absorbed ways and it’s hard to have a two way conversation. Please change your personality back to how you used to be.” It’s a bit like being friends with a YouTube Video that some vlogger has made…or a podcast. We’re just expected to sit and watch or listen. Then she’ll say, “I always ask how they are but they never really tell me much anymore”. Well yes…because when they do, she immediately changes the subject back to herself or she just doesn’t leave space for them to elaborate and share their real feelings.

She’s been blissfully unaware for about a year. It’s only now that multiple friends and family are distancing themselves that she’s starting to get upset and confused. But still totally unaware.

Again, not saying this is what may be going on for you…but do you think communication is going well generally when you do see them? Have you sensed any changes of atmosphere?

Or could it be something like lifestyle change? Kids at a different age? Income/lifestyle differences that are creating a wedge? Being bonded through a previous job or hobby and now not having as much in common? Them struggling with mental or physical health or money or a relationship?

Edited

Why don’t you gently tell your friend what she’s doing wrong then?

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:27

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:15

😂Look I'm just giving an opinion. At least I'm offering some constructive advice that can be actioned.

Constructive?

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:16

Please don’t take this the wrong way OP.

Firstly it’s most likely that people are just busy and thoughtless, not that it’s an excuse and it isn’t hurtful.

But…if it’s happening on multiple levels maybe it’s something to do with your communication style that you’ve been unaware of?

One of my closest friends has recently ended up being cut off by quite a few people, even family members and she has no idea why. She’s really upset and was saying, “I can’t understand why this keeps happening and what I’ve done.”
And I’m sat there nodding and sympathising and making all the right noises and thinking I know exactly what it is and I’ve come really close to doing the same but won’t because I deeply care for you!

She’s completely unaware but since having kids and becoming a “crunchy mum”, she’s lost the ability to talk about anything that isn’t her or her kids. She never asks reciprocal questions. Quite serious things are happening in her friends’ and family’s worlds and she’ll say “how are you?” but doesn’t want the real response and will avoid talking about what’s going on in her friends’ lives.

I’ve been in a room with her where friend 1 was talking about their toddler needing a new bed but them not being able to afford one and friend 2 had just been made redundant but wasn’t eligible for redundancy pay so was worried sick about money (single mum with a mortgage) and within seconds, close friend said, “Well, I’ve been offered a huge promotion (at the same workplace where the redundancy happened ) and I’m going to treat myself to a Chanel bag with my first new wage. I deserve it!” I was sitting there thinking, “FFS read the room!” Unsurprisingly, those friends have been meeting up without her since and she can’t make the connection.

She’s completely unaware of how she comes across. It’s not done deliberately. She thinks by talking about herself and the kids all the time, she’s bonding with us but she’s actually alienating us because we’ll meet up, either one on one or in a group and she’ll dominate the conversation.

And completely forget the details of what’s going on in anyone’s life. “Oh yeah, your sister died, sorry baby brain I forgot! When’s the funeral? Oh it was last week…oh I’d have come if I’d have known as we got on so well…oh yes you’re right, you did text me and let me know…I’m just so busy these days with the kids I forget to reply…sorry. Did I tell you that Ginny won Star of the Week at Forest School? Yes, I have had to explain though to Gigi that we shine in different ways as it can be hard to see a sibling recognised and you can end up feeling overlooked so I made her a special Star of the Week for potty training at home to keep her emotionally regulated…”

She used to be really lovely and has no idea that everyone is just gradually getting more and more done with her. And it’s hard to say, “friend, we don’t enjoy socialising with you anymore. You’re acting in quite self absorbed ways and it’s hard to have a two way conversation. Please change your personality back to how you used to be.” It’s a bit like being friends with a YouTube Video that some vlogger has made…or a podcast. We’re just expected to sit and watch or listen. Then she’ll say, “I always ask how they are but they never really tell me much anymore”. Well yes…because when they do, she immediately changes the subject back to herself or she just doesn’t leave space for them to elaborate and share their real feelings.

She’s been blissfully unaware for about a year. It’s only now that multiple friends and family are distancing themselves that she’s starting to get upset and confused. But still totally unaware.

Again, not saying this is what may be going on for you…but do you think communication is going well generally when you do see them? Have you sensed any changes of atmosphere?

Or could it be something like lifestyle change? Kids at a different age? Income/lifestyle differences that are creating a wedge? Being bonded through a previous job or hobby and now not having as much in common? Them struggling with mental or physical health or money or a relationship?

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:15

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 08:11

So how’s your therapy going? 🙄

😂Look I'm just giving an opinion. At least I'm offering some constructive advice that can be actioned.

catmothertes1 · 30/07/2024 08:36

Mairzydotes · 30/07/2024 07:44

I feel the same .

However, I'm often disregarded for someone who is seen as more popular ( even in adulthood) or for someone who can benefit others in some way.

I still find it hurtful.

Same.

catmothertes1 · 30/07/2024 08:35

VirginiaGirl · 29/07/2024 20:33

‘I see people out enjoying themselves, and the invitations frequently seem to miss me.’

And I can relate to this, too. They have busy lives but then they pop up on Facebook with other friends, doing fun things.

The Facebook thing is a killer,when you've not been invited and here are your friends with some of your other friends having a lovely meal! I was a founding member of said friendship group but I've slowly become an outsider.

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 08:28

I feel this way too OP. Some friends it’s impossible to tie down to a date to meet. They say they want to meet so I suggest some dates and then they ignore my messages! I think since covid some people just can’t be arsed to socialise much anymore. It’s like they think because they didn’t go out over lockdown then they feel they don’t need to anymore.

I’ve given up on those friends and instead spend time with those who do make the effort and I’ve also got out there and made some new friends too.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 08:11

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 05:27

I think you should get some therapy. In most cases there is something unpleasant about someone but when you’re an adult no one is going to tell you you’re a pain in the ass, or you’re boring etc they just slowly distance.

So how’s your therapy going? 🙄

Mairzydotes · 30/07/2024 07:44

I feel the same .

However, I'm often disregarded for someone who is seen as more popular ( even in adulthood) or for someone who can benefit others in some way.

I still find it hurtful.

autienotnaughty · 30/07/2024 05:32

I'm in my forties and I notice a huge change.

When I was in my twenties I would catch up with friends on the phone. We would see each other most weeks even once we were married with kids, there would be nights out but also hanging out in each others houses.

It just gradually declined from thirties onward, it became what's app groups instead of phone cals so now we are pretty disconnected from each other. I see my friends maybe 3/4 times a year. I've tried to make it more but in the end I just accept it.

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 05:27

I think you should get some therapy. In most cases there is something unpleasant about someone but when you’re an adult no one is going to tell you you’re a pain in the ass, or you’re boring etc they just slowly distance.

Sinderalla · 30/07/2024 04:23

Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:41

Just to add for context, one or 2 friends/family have children but as there are mix of ages some are all grown up by now. Just feeling a bit sorry for myself I suppose, and a bit left out. Thanks for all your replies so far x

I get this. How I felt before children.

Thunderandlightningisfrightening · 30/07/2024 04:20

Yeah people I've been mates with for years. One asked everyone but me to be bridesmaid and one arranged a secret christening for her kids and invited everyone but me. Cheeky cow even sent me a pic after event. She'd obviously planned it all in secret. I just can't be arsed anymore. My child has a lot of friends and their parents are nice so I talk to them when we meet but that's about it.

needtonamechangeforthis1 · 30/07/2024 01:21

Yep feel exactly like this. So sick of always being the one arranging things. I'm about done tbh.

Earlier today I made the decision to call time on my relationship with my siblings. None of them bother to reply to my messages 90% of the time. They have organised a weeks holiday together next year and not invited me. I then attempt to organise a weekend and 'it will be too stressful all together' apparently. I'm literally the only one not going on the week away 🤷🏻‍♀️
So I'm done. If they don't want to spend time with me I won't force my presence on them.

Friends ditto. I just can't be bothered anymore! Very few have kept in touch. I had cancer two years ago and next to nobody has bothered to see how I'm doing.

Tbh if it wasn't for my dogs I don't think I'd keep going.

Newnamehiwhodis · 30/07/2024 01:12

I think it could be a combination of things. Someone upthread mentioned people are broke. People are tired - I know since covid, pretty much everyone I know has got into the habit of staying home more. And most of us are exhausted after work … I am thinking of canceling the one social thing I’ve planned this week, and it’s not out of any dislike for the people involved. I am just wiped out.

Hope it gets better, OP, and mainly - do know it isn’t you.

Kitkatcatflap · 30/07/2024 01:06

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 29/07/2024 19:45

Yes that can sting a bit. It’s worse now there’s social media. Back in the day you didn’t necessarily know what other people were doing now you see evidence of it everywhere, left wondering why you’ve been left out of WhatsApp groups ect.

Thing is you say if you didn’t organise things then you’d be left out but o think that’s true of everyone. Irrespective of whether they invite you or not your friends/family are almost certainly organising things.
I don’t believe anyone who has a full social calander only ever goes to social events their invited too iyswim

Edited

I totally agree with this. Social media is a great thing but it also enables the 'can't be arsed' among us to be even lazier. Clicking like on someone's post is not keeping in touch.

Solocup · 30/07/2024 00:51

But everyone feels like this. And it’s kinda true. If we stopped making the effort no one would see anyone.
So you gotta keep making the effort. It’s that simple.
I am really bad for making and effort. I see people but not so much as I’m rubbish and my dear friends are equally rubbish (luckily no one thinks that means we don’t like each other).

GeneralReflection · 29/07/2024 22:40

I feel like many of the people around me have a small handful special friendships that they actively nurture, often with siblings, and that people beyond those are surplus to requirements .. take it or leave it. If something suits them they do it if not they don’t.

I’m not in those groups, so I’m surplus to requirements.

Tbh I think I now make things worse for myself as I expect to be treated that way so I keep my guards up and don’t open up as much, making it harder to then get close to new people.

I have noticed it’s got worse since I put on weight too.

MK42 · 29/07/2024 22:25

I had loads of friends and a great social life until I got married and had kids. Since my divorce, I rarely go out and socialise- my focus has been on my kids (50/50 custody) and my job. My friends now live all over the country and I moved to a new town (where I could actually afford a mortgage) where I haven’t actually met any new people apart from the neighbours- who are lovely. It does get lonely, but meeting new people is hard. I need to get out there- but being over 50 and doing that now- how?

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