Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise

Alexandra2001
How did Hunt fund a £21 billion NI cut? (answer: he didn't fund it)

Funding for Hunt's NI cut discussed here;

Jeremy Hunt has gambled his budget on a £10bn national insurance cut funded by scrapping non-dom rules and other revenue-raising measures that will push taxation to the highest level since the second world war...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/06/budget-2024-jeremy-hunt-announces-2p-cut-in-national-insurance
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/22/autumn-statement-2023-key-points-jeremy-hunt

Totally - I accept that e
people have different views but it doesn't strengthen an argument when someone is so hyperbolic in laying into a government who has been in power for such a brief amount of time. It's pretty transparent.

Yet they appear to have settled the doctors strike in 3 weeks.

Theyve been on strike for ever under the last government. Ds trained as a journalist and was interviewing them in 2016.

I don’t really think it can get much worse than it was.

You can't see a GP because funding has been cut and the only money is ARSS funding, which cannot be used for doctors.
Currently 2,000 GPs are unemployed. They want to work and see patients. But practices can't employ them. PAs yes. Doctors no.

Well, we're like a month or so in. I'd probably be tempted to give it a little longer before making a judgment - I realise that some people were never going to be happy with seeing the Tories voted out but I think rushing to a judgment this quickly is a bit hasty.

Higher taxes, lower infrastructure spending, higher inflation, economy in trouble even more than before.

Welcome to the Labour years. Who knew it could get worse than the Tories. We all did. But yet here we are.

So much for economic growth. What a pathetic bunch of morons we have in charge. Even worse than the lot before

Will people notice??

Well the GPs are going to strike according to the BMA because of a contract though.

OonaStubbs · Today 17:50
The government always bends over backwards to appease doctors and it really pisses me off.

I've no problem with doctors being paid a bit more than normal workers but what they get is ridiculous. Most of them come from wealthy families to start with.

Think we have a troll or someone trying to bait for a reaction!!

Your link says they deported 46 migrants on Wednesday - The Times reported today that 370 migrants arrived by boat on Saturday.

NB The Conservative government signed a new agreement with Vietnam on illegal migration in April this year - just in case Yvette Cooper wants to take all the credit on deportations to Vietnam;
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-signs-new-agreement-with-vietnam-on-illegal-migration

Hard to know as they currently seem to be unregulated- some are earning £90,000+ though. And they have jobs. Lots of doctors unemployed & driving Ubers

What does a physician's associate earn after 30 years?

22% of £15.33 makes their new hourly wage £18.40. For saving your life.

A physicians associate, who has to be supervised by a doctor, earns £25 an hour.

Want a doctor ? Pay them.

Unite, has issued the following statement.

NHS staff have suffered real terms pay cuts and have been neglected for over a decade. Nationally this has created huge recruitment and retention issues, which is a direct result of staff being tens of thousands of pounds worse off in real terms.

The government has rightly recognised this with restorative pay rises for junior doctors.

It’s imperative to ensure that we are not dividing NHS workers and creating even greater differentials between different groups.

The NHS after all is made of many workers in many professional groups; all are vital and all deserve pay restoration.

Health workers being offered less than half of what junior doctors have been offered is not good enough. It will certainly not deal with the recruitment crisis in the NHS.

The PRB process has today been proven to be broken beyond repair. We cannot have a situation where restorative pay awards are offered to some and not to all.

Unite’s health members will have the final say on whether they believe this is an acceptable pay offer through a ballot.

Like I said precedent
Going to be hard to deal with that..

Overall, not necessarily in every specific case

The problem with this is that the super rich have accountants that can make sure inheritance tax is minimised /zero by moving assets, putting into trusts etc. For example, the Duke of Westminster inherited £9 billion and paid nothing in inheritance tax. The accountants of the super rich know all the legal ways around paying tax.

But people who have worked hard in “normal” jobs, saved up and paid their mortgage off can end up caught in the inheritance tax threshold. They don’t have the expensive accountants to legally avoid tax.

If the super wealthy paid their fare share, the country as a whole would benefit. But they don’t.

Indeed. My private sector pension employer contribution is 5% and mine is 3%.

I earn 28k and am in a regulated profession i needed a post grad for.

So i cannot weep tbh for the very extravagant public sector pensions I hear about.

And why do you think that is? Aside from the fact it is probably amongst the hardest professions to get into and requires both exceptional intelligence but also years and years of hard work, the result of not having any doctors is everyone dies. Not exactly on the same level as a compliance officer is it?

How much are doctors paid in Scandinavia compared to the normal working person?

people

Well, if we want things we have to pay for them. The country's in an awful state, there's always peole on here saying nothing works, everything's scruffy etc.
Then they say look at Scandinavia. Everything works there! Er- that's because you have to pay more tax there, then it pays for infrastructure/stuff.

The government always bends over backwards to appease doctors and it really pisses me off.

I've no problem with doctors being paid a bit more than normal workers but what they get is ridiculous. Most of them come from wealthy families to start with.

I said public sector! Teachers, armed forces etc are all in the same boat regarding pay freezes.

Well they have a lot of admin because they run their practices as private businesses with NHS contracts and employ their staff etc

and they actively chose it when NHS was created to make more money back then

maybe if they became just NHS staff like other doctors they would be less burnt out