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New career working Christmas as single parent

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ItsSpookySeason · 28/07/2024 15:37

I have just finished a nursing degree and I'm waiting on my pin coming through before starting my new job. I've worked hard to get to this point as a mature student but unfortunately during my training my husband divorced me and has now moved to another country with OW.

We have 5 children under 12 who he now sees twice a year. I have managed during my training using paid childcare and have been fortunate that I have a family member who has also helped by looking after my children, but they are now also moving away to start a new job so I will solely be relying on paid childcare.

I am extremely worried about working 12 hour shifts over Christmas - I don't object to working Christmas eve / Christmas day / boxing day at all but I have no idea how I am going to sort childcare. I don't want to raise this as an issue as soon as I start my new job, I don't want to make a bad impression nor do I think I deserve special treatment as a single parent, but none of my childcare providers work Christmas day or boxing day, I have already asked!

How does anyone in a similar situation manage? I was previously self employed, and married, so have never had to worry about this before! Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

OP posts:
Andwegoroundagain · 28/07/2024 18:04

Would your sister consider visiting for Xmas ? Or new years ? So then she could spend the day with the kids?
Failing that do you have the room for an aupair?

JenniferBooth · 28/07/2024 18:04

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:38

Oh yes all the nurses having a family will mind. Sorry.

Edited

while the child free will just be expected to suck it up

SevernWonders · 28/07/2024 18:00

In every job that I have had, any holiday that I had already booked prior to starting, was always honoured so that will hopefully sort you for this year, but I think that would immediately mean that you would be expected to work next Christmas, but does give you longer to arrange something.

HollyKnight · 28/07/2024 17:55

She's a newly qualified nurse. She is limited in where she can work at the moment because she needs to go through preceptorship and get IV training n all that. Telling her to join the Bank or an agency or a specialist/specific type of nursing is pointless. Ward work is the most common and easiest/fastest way to get these skills and training. She will be in a better position to be more picky in a year.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:55

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/07/2024 17:52

It won't mean a thing for most industries really - flexi working only really suits office based roles where you don't need to be present or on-site at set times in order to do your job.

I mean, can you imagine if all emergency workers decided they didn't want to do weekends anymore? Or if supermarket workers decided they all wanted mornings off, or to close at 2pm so they could pick their kids up from school?

It just won't work. It's a nice idea, but it won't work.

It's BS tbh for a lot of people.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/07/2024 17:52

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:44

I know.
It will mean nothing for a lot of people on 24/7 shifts. Not at all.

It won't mean a thing for most industries really - flexi working only really suits office based roles where you don't need to be present or on-site at set times in order to do your job.

I mean, can you imagine if all emergency workers decided they didn't want to do weekends anymore? Or if supermarket workers decided they all wanted mornings off, or to close at 2pm so they could pick their kids up from school?

It just won't work. It's a nice idea, but it won't work.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:46

ItsSpookySeason · 28/07/2024 16:49

Thanks for the replies!

Working elsewhere isn't really an option right now as in my trust new band 5s must work on a ward to gain experience.

My eldest is 12, and has additional needs so definitely not able to be left with his siblings!

My ex husband will not see the children at Christmas, he has made it very clear that he will visit twice a year - once in February and once in August.

For all those asking - school holidays, night shifts ect are all covered using a combination of holiday clubs, nurseries and a childminder local to me who does overnight care, so none of those are an issue, it's only Christmas that is going to be a problem.

You can find a paid babysitter. A lot of nurses I have worked with over the years in dofferent wards did this at Christmas (and other days). No fun for you but it can be done.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:44

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/07/2024 17:40

It's also not what the new law means - it just changes how you can request it, it doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get it (the same as now, really).

The idea of everyone being entitled to flexible working where they pick and choose their hours and days is lovely, but it just doesn't work in reality.

I know.
It will mean nothing for a lot of people on 24/7 shifts. Not at all.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:43

Juyjuly32 · 28/07/2024 16:43

Do not join the Bank or agency. There's no work at the minute... and with 5 kids OP likely needs a solid income.

I do the Bank/Agency work. I have no issues with work but it might be because I cover a lot as I trained years ago.
I never work fFridatmys/weekends/holidays because of my family. It's perfect.
I might not be a good way to go as a new nurse.

Lemonade2011 · 28/07/2024 17:41

Oh that’s a tough one op, I’m a nurse ex a police officer so we jiggled for years until we split but I’d worked my job for years and managed to work his days off which was still tricky. I have 4 kids youngest has additional needs so struggleD for childcare. Your ex is a peach isn’t he just leaving you with 5 kids and buggering off abroad. Only thing you can really do is start the job, see how it goes and ask what happens re Christmas. I used to do nightshift Christmas night and/or boxing night so I had days with the kids. But it’s tough op, look for some practise jobs, outpatients, vaccination etc wish you luck and sorry you’re in this position, hope you end up on a nice ward with understanding colleagues

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/07/2024 17:40

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:37

So no nurses, firefighters or police officers on duty 24/7?

It's not how the future is. Sorry.

It's also not what the new law means - it just changes how you can request it, it doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get it (the same as now, really).

The idea of everyone being entitled to flexible working where they pick and choose their hours and days is lovely, but it just doesn't work in reality.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:38

JenniferBooth · 28/07/2024 15:42

No one will mind you having a Christmas off as long as it isnt every year and you take your turn in other years.

Oh yes all the nurses having a family will mind. Sorry.

MumChp · 28/07/2024 17:37

Throughthebarricades · 28/07/2024 15:54

How to get flexible working Dirty Mother Pukka with Anna Whitehouse. As The Flexible Working Bill passes through Parliament - to become law in 2024 - Anna sits down with lawyer Daniel Wise to wade through what it means for you. And how to successfully get flex - without losing your job or mind.
So hopefully the OP will be able to request Flexible working under the new law

So no nurses, firefighters or police officers on duty 24/7?

It's not how the future is. Sorry.

1234preg · 28/07/2024 17:37

First off I want to say a massive congratulations! It’s not easy studying with young kids and nevermind as a single mum! Absolutely killing it girl.
have you looked at gingerbread? They are a charity supporting single parents in the UK - they might have some ideas ?

Sidge · 28/07/2024 17:33

Look for jobs in primary care. You’re employed by the GP practice, not the NHS as such and many surgeries are happy to employ NQN.

No nights, weekends or bank holidays.

Dearover · 28/07/2024 17:30

Does your hospital offer childcare? Some larger Trusts do. You won't be the only one in this pickle.

daffodilandtulip · 28/07/2024 17:24

One of the many reasons I left the toxic NHS was that as a single parent working 3 x 12.5hr shifts, I wasn't allowed to make any requests ... and was actively put on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, every single week. Like you, I had zero childcare options. They aren't interested, and you'll get treated horribly just for asking.

TheSquareMile · 28/07/2024 17:21

Congratulations on reaching this stage in your nursing career, OP.

Have you actually been offered a job which will involve working this Christmas, or are you looking at possibilities in advance?

If you have accepted a job offer and working at Christmas is something you will need to do, could you ask whether a family member could come and stay with you for a week, offering to pay for their flights etc?

There are nannies who might work at Christmas, but the cost would be simply out of the question under normal circumstances.

sunflowersd · 28/07/2024 17:20

Might not work but would your family member consider coming back for Christmas or having the kids visit? Also, your ex husband sucks. Well done on being such a good Mum!

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 28/07/2024 17:19

OP you have worked so hard to get where you are. It must be very frustrating to be thwarted by your ex husband who is really not being reasonable at all. I cannot see that you will be able to avoid working the Christmas period entirely and it would seem to be a good idea to deal with this sooner than later. If your ward manager is wiling to make an exception for you this year then maybe by next year you would be able to move to a community or outpatient role? Long term ward working will require being on the rota for Christmas.

HollyKnight · 28/07/2024 17:18

Make friends as soon as you start then hopefully colleagues will be willing to swap with you. Some will work Christmas if it means they can get New Years off instead, for example. I don't know if it applies to all Trusts but in mine Christmas and Boxing Day shifts are shorter than normal so it is fewer hours needing covered by childcare. You might have to use a nanny-type company to cover that day. It will probably cost you more than you will earn for the shift, sadly.

ItsSpookySeason · 28/07/2024 17:13

Createausername1970 · 28/07/2024 17:04

If you have to do ward work before you can progress, then it's good you are being proactive now.

There is an organisation, but I personally have no experience so am not recommending it, called something like Hire a Granny. It puts younger families in contact with older people who want the opportunity to be someone's grandparents. You might find an older person willing to come and stay and help host a family style Christmas. No idea how much they would charge.

Thank you - this sounds absolutely amazing and definitely something I will look into! As far as family goes, it's pretty much just me and my kids, and my sister who is now moving away. So I think we would benefit from something like this, and not just for Christmas time! It would be so nice to have other adults in my children's lives.

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Stopsnowing · 28/07/2024 17:10

There will be people willing to look after your children at Christmas but it will cost a lot and need to be organised well in advance. Perhaps an international student who is not returning home for Christmas.

Createausername1970 · 28/07/2024 17:04

If you have to do ward work before you can progress, then it's good you are being proactive now.

There is an organisation, but I personally have no experience so am not recommending it, called something like Hire a Granny. It puts younger families in contact with older people who want the opportunity to be someone's grandparents. You might find an older person willing to come and stay and help host a family style Christmas. No idea how much they would charge.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/07/2024 16:51

Is a job working rotating 12 hour shifts including nights, weekends and bank holidays really going to be feasible long-term when you're a single parent to three children?

You'd be better off finding a nursing job with more regular, set hours if possible, surely?