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Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 11:23

TL:DR DH and I have same salary but get content comments about how lucky I am as there's an assumption that DH is the one paying/funding everything!

My DH and I both have decent jobs and decent salaries however I am sick to death about people commenting about our life in relation to how well DH must be doing so we can afford XYZ and how lucky I am 🤣
Both of our families are very working class and have similar, traditional values about gender roles I suppose.
DH and I never disclose what we earn or discuss work in general with them but they both know that we both work full time.
My job is quite vague. Think Chandler Bing 'Transponster' 🤣, so none of them actually know exactly what I do for work.
I think it pisses me off because nothing has ever come easy and I've literally worked my backside off to achieve where I am in my career, as has DH and it's constantly reduced to 'lucky you, DH must be doing well'. People find it easier to believe that DH must be earning almost double his currently salary, rather than considering that we're fairly equal.

For example we've just purchased a new home. I actually earn slightly more than DH and have far more disposable income, and poured everything that I had spare into our previous mortgage to reduce the term, meaning we were in a good position to buy this one. All I have heard since, is how DH must be skint, buying that big house for us!
Nail in the coffin was at the family bbq where my uncle asked to see pics of the work that we have done (total reno. Listed building) to which he said loudly 'wow, incredible. Looks like you've been at DH's credit card again' 🙈

I don't know what I want here! I'm never going to correct them, neither of us are. Nor would I ever reply with 'hey, I pay my share' as it sounds petty and defensive and I know it's not meant to be hurtful but EFF me! Woman can also have successful careers too 🤣

OP posts:
Mnetcurious · 28/07/2024 12:56

Either you politely tell them straight “actually we earn very similar amounts so he’s just as lucky as I am” or you don’t let their incorrect assumptions bother you.

letsjustdothis · 28/07/2024 12:54

SeeSeeRider · 28/07/2024 11:37

This is what I want to know. Dear OP, do you suffer from chronic shyness or confrontation phobia?

I'm in a similar situation but I just politely smile, I don't say anything.

I'm a very confrontational and direct person normally, but this is the one situation I don't say anything.

Because I know it turns into:

  • "can I have/borrow some money, you're loaded" (I'm not a millionaire or anything)
  • "you're lucky not to have money problems" (long rant about their money problems)
  • "can you buy [random expensive item]" as a gift/when out.
  • "no one needs to get you a Christmas present, but you should buy for the in-laws entire extended family including a million grandchildren you don't know, and you should spend more on them than others do because you can afford it."
  • [random remarks that indicate they're resentful, even though they'd never work the hours I do or sacrifice the things I've sacrificed to be where I am]
  • and repeat every time you see them

In reality it's even worse because I look young (I'm not, so it's horrible seeing their faces because they're clearly thinking "god she's old" when they find out), so half the time I don't even get "must be nice he gave you a job in the business, he does all the work though doesn't he" (it's my business ideas, joint execution, and we are equal partners and do the same hours). Instead I get "must be nice to have rich parents."

People just don't like other people being successful. Once we have - finally - got through the list of, no my partner and I built our business together, no we didn't have parents fund it, no we didn't get investors, yes I do look young, they just hate you even more. They just can't justify hating you which makes them even more annoyed.

And the parent thing hits a nerve with me because I haven't spoken to my (abusive) parents in 10 years and they had nothing to do with my businesses or anything else I've done.

Grass is always greener.

Shinyandnew1 · 28/07/2024 12:54

It's all we, us etc and he's even said that I earn more.

So are they 1. forgetting and asking again or 2. different members of your family asking?

whichfan · 28/07/2024 12:51

Being from an “older generation “ doesn’t mean that you’re told once, twice, multiple times that it’s not the case and yet you still crack on, despite the person ie you, clearly not happy is thoughtless and rude

whichfan · 28/07/2024 12:49

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:31

@whichfan over 150 people in our combined family babe. Lots of an older generation where the women were mainly housewives and the men earned the money.

As I said in the initial post, none of them are tying to be hurtful, it's just their experience.

Interesting that this post was about people making assumptions 🤣

babe? shudder

mind you…the thought of putting up with what you have been putting up with this from family makes me shudder too

OvertheChannel · 28/07/2024 12:45

It’s actually made me quite cross reading this - as I used to get similar-ish comments, but that was about 20 years ago!

It was pretty obvious which one of us was earning the money I would have thought, simply by what we did for a living…and I was earning at least 5 times that of my husband. We were having major works done on the house, and the architect knew what my job was (I was away a lot), but still he did things like submitting planning details with just my husband’s name on - I had to tell him to re-submit as the house belonged to me, in my sole name, and in fact my maiden name. He had just assumed, and not bothered to ask.

When I told the builders (nicely, I hope!) that, for instance, they were putting a drain in the wrong place, they said they would have to ask my husband as he was the one paying for it! Bloody annoying. If they said things like that, of course I put them straight and usually they just looked annoyed rather than being apologetic!

Plus other assumptions from (my husband’s) family. They should have known better, they knew exactly what he was earning as he worked for them! - so how the hell did they think he could afford what we were doing to the house? Such old-fashioned attitudes.

gamerchick · 28/07/2024 12:40

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 28/07/2024 11:25

I know I wouldn't be able to help myself. I'd just have to say, "Actually, I earn more than him."

Exactly. Shuts it down then. Really, he should be saying it since he seems content for people to think he's paying for everything.

I got a complaint from someone on a jacket I was wearing. Said that husband must have forked out a bit for it. I had no bones in telling him I earn my own money.

autienotnaughty · 28/07/2024 12:35

I would have a ready response " no we pay equally " say it every time and ask dh to
Say it too.

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:31

@whichfan over 150 people in our combined family babe. Lots of an older generation where the women were mainly housewives and the men earned the money.

As I said in the initial post, none of them are tying to be hurtful, it's just their experience.

Interesting that this post was about people making assumptions 🤣

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whichfan · 28/07/2024 12:07

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:05

@whichfan we weren't talking about finances in that scenario. The other poster and I were discussing workmen's attitudes to only wanting to speak to a male, for ANY reason.

Also thanks for the assessment of how 'thick' our families are. I like to think that it's a generational trait as they tend to have had traditional gender roles.

so if told repeatedly that wrong
and they continue to do this
then it’s because they sense it antagonises you OP (which in itself is a bit “thick” IMP to do this to family or indeed anyone)

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:05

@whichfan we weren't talking about finances in that scenario. The other poster and I were discussing workmen's attitudes to only wanting to speak to a male, for ANY reason.

Also thanks for the assessment of how 'thick' our families are. I like to think that it's a generational trait as they tend to have had traditional gender roles.

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Willowkins · 28/07/2024 12:03

Hey @Newbie8918 you just want the recognition. I get that. It's crass of people to assume it's the DH who's paying for it all when actually you're a team. But it goes further than that when they're making a joke out of the assumption you're the weaker partner. And of course we're all so trained not to 'boast' or be forward in any way.

I'd have to counter this with some blindingly clever comeback Every Single Time. Something like: you know it's not 1924 right?

whichfan · 28/07/2024 12:03

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:02

This is more my type of comment. Thank you 🤣

i doubt they’ll know what “misogyny” means

whichfan · 28/07/2024 12:02

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 11:58

He does correct them.

It's all we, us etc and he's even said that I earn more.

you said he encouraged the idea that you are dealing with the admin of the project

very much indicating he’s the one providing the finance

but if he does correct them

then your family is a bit… thick? and / or knows it antagonises you but the steaming look on your face so carry on doing it

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:02

PrincessofWells · 28/07/2024 11:57

I just reply to that type of remark 'nice misogyny there, maybe you could work on that'.

This is more my type of comment. Thank you 🤣

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capstix · 28/07/2024 12:02

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 28/07/2024 11:25

I know I wouldn't be able to help myself. I'd just have to say, "Actually, I earn more than him."

Pure class.

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 12:01

@whichfan you may want to re read the comment.

When workmen say they need to speak to him rather than me, or when they bypass me completely, he deliberately tells them that I make the decisions or hold the finances and he will need to come back to them. Let's them wait and consults me.....often in front of them, even when it's not required, because he knows that it pisses me off.

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Olika · 28/07/2024 12:00

I think you need to be more blunt as you/DH correcting them as you are doing now is not working. This would drive me mad and I would bluntly say we both work and provide for all this thank you very much.

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 11:58

whichfan · 28/07/2024 11:53

sounds to me like your DH doesn’t put them straight and instead puffs out his chest and accepts it all!

He does correct them.

It's all we, us etc and he's even said that I earn more.

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PrincessofWells · 28/07/2024 11:57

I just reply to that type of remark 'nice misogyny there, maybe you could work on that'.

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 11:56

TherebytheGraceofGodgoI · 28/07/2024 11:34

I know exactly what you mean. I married late 30s and moved into DH’s nice house on an estate. His elderly neighbour commented that I was a lucky girl! That comment has bugged me for the last 20 years! I had my own nice house on a nice estate with plenty of equity, a well paid job and was doing nicely.
i said nothing but my head plays out that scenario over and over where I act all dumb and ask “what do you mean?”
No comments my family side as I was doing well but I moved into DH’s area where I wasn’t known so a lot of people assumed ‘I was marrying well!’

It's easy isn't it after the event had passed, to think that you should have comeback with some quick witted, cutting remark 🤣

I also find similar scenarios weird. 'Actually he's the lucky one, I'm a catch too....' 🤣

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Shinyandnew1 · 28/07/2024 11:55

Someone turned to DH directly and said 'that must be costing you a pretty penny DH name'. It's weird for me to correct that with 'costing us.....' but the assumption was the same.*

But why on earth didn’t your husband say something?! Especially as you are pissed off about it!

This is such a weird thing to be cross about when neither of you are prepared to do anything to stop it!

whichfan · 28/07/2024 11:54

RobertSalamander · 28/07/2024 11:53

When they say these comments, eg uncle, why on earth are you not saying ‘well actually, I earn more than DH…. Etc’. They want to talk money. So talk money.

My DH actually DOES pay for everything and I have never had such a comment in my life!

You deserve some credit!

Edited

exactly

when married my DH earned 4x what i earned

I didn’t pay for a thing!

No comment. Not one. Ever.

Scammersarescum · 28/07/2024 11:54

Say something

Change opinions

Combat ingrained misogyny even if it embarrasses people.

It might make them stop and think.

I've had all sorts like that said to me. I always correct it.

whichfan · 28/07/2024 11:54

Newbie8918 · 28/07/2024 11:48

Oh yes.....in the middle of this now.

Comments like 'well speak to him and make sure he's happy to pay that'.
'When will your DH be home?'
'I'll give your DH a call'

The sexism is real. DH plays along and says 'I'll have to run it by x, she's in charge of the budget/design etc' 🤣 frustrating isn't it?

ah so your DH basically totally instigates and encourages this

DH problem

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