Ballerina farm - just fell down a rabbit hole

If that is an accurate depiction of her life it is heartbreaking.

I don't follow her, but always assumed these trad wife type influencers had an army of support behind the scenes.

Juilliard dance school. Very hard to get into.

Yes he is from a very wealthy family.

Here’s the other link.

www.thetimes.com/article/34a971ae-4e4c-422c-8566-58b5f14dc81e?shareToken=cb629925119c9ff1f1faba98ab369751

Which school? Sorry, I don’t follow them but interested to know what she gave up to be a trad wife.

I feel the same , i think she knows exactly what she is doing and that it is very likely a joint mutual decision along side her husband.

Have you actually read the interview and her story? She wanted to wait to get married and have a baby, he pressured for it to happen earlier so she was forced to drop out of Juillard and have babies. Her "ballet studio" was even taken over to become a home-school room for the children.

They now live rurally, she has no access to a car and isn't even allowed to give birth without pain relief (unless her husband isn't around to tell her what to do). She even released a video giving the signal for "help" but it was deleted - presumably because he saw it and realised what she was doing.

She also has one of those smiles that never reach the eyes. I think she's a victim of her abusive religion and feel incredibly sorry for her.

I feel the same , i think she knows exactly what she is doing and that it is very likely a joint mutual decision along side her husband.
She is very pretty and trades on it ,gives the impression of living a wholesome self efficient life, a harder life than one i would choose -this part doesn't quite ring true to me, why would you work your arse off when you are as rich as them? so i do think this may not be how they truly live behind the images they show, it makes them money though.
But 8 kids ,no thanks and she'll probably have more.
I think her home looks a bit grubby and it turns my stomach watching her drink the milky raw egg concoctions she makes but i still watch her posts !
She didn't have to leave her ballet life behind for a man even a millionaire 🤔

Read the article linked above

I've seen her videos for a while. Prior to all this blowing up, I've thought that she often looks tired / strained / stressed and he often looks quite irritated.
Anyway, tik tok is going mad over the whole thing. No cleaners or nannies but he pays for farm help; her ballet studio got turned into a classroom; he obviously makes the decisions and she has to follow them.
For me, the most shocking thing about this is that people are shocked! Living on a farm and having baby after baby and having to submit to some religious nutjob of a man sounds like pure hell to me. I don't understand the trad wife movement at all and it's interesting how people are so surprised that a "traditional" set-up is actually shit for the woman doing all the unpaid labour and making all the sacrifices. Of course it's shit! That's why we moved on from it. Anyway, I hope for her sake it's either what she wants or she finds a way out.

Husband’s family “own an airline”, so yep I think they are pretty rich. I think we can safely assume this is a toy ranch with no requirement to turn a profit, and these people are cosplaying pioneer life. Up to them of course, but not really attainable in real life by anyone else.

Hannah Neeleman told The New York Timess^ that the family hires farm workers, a personal assistant, a teacher to homeschool five school-aged children, and an occasional babysitter.[2] Hannah and Daniel have eight children, three sons followed by five daughters.[1][5] They are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.[1] Neeleman is associated with the tradwife movement but does not use the term or identify with it strongly.[11]

Mormon culture.

It's heartbreaking watching it, she threw out all that hard work and dreams to be a slave to everyone else. As an ex-Mormon myself and how heavily the religion and cultures shaped my life, it gets me! Of course, back then I was promised rewards in heaven for my sacrifices and the more sacrifices the more rewards. It's hard to believe I thought like that but I did.

I don't think there's anything wrong with giving up her career to have a large family if that's what she wanted.

However, there seem to be various hints that he's quite controlling, so that's a worry. She doesn't have her own car for example, and they live in the middle of nowhere (or so I'm told, I don't follow her).

I’m one of six children and none of us have big families, one has three but third was an accident.

Not sure if this is a link to the longer, earlier interview in the times

www.thetimes.com/article/34a971ae-4e4c-422c-8566-58b5f14dc81e?shareToken=70045df80e4d8c0b1c6e74c45bcfb382

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/ng-interactive/2024/jul/24/tradwives-tiktok-women-gender-roles

There was an article in the Guardian the other day, talking about her, the milkmaid woman, the creepy whisperer and someone else.

Also, not sure if it’s relevant or not, but apparently she’s never worked as a prof ballerina which I thought sad as that’s the name she still has.

I thought following the whole Ruby Franke debacle, that the State of Utah were banning the monetising of children. Obviously not if this is still going.

The article linked above isn't the original interview.

What I find really depressing is that she will be used to pressure other (Mormon) women into this lifestyle, but the difference is she gets to do it with extreme wealth behind her whereas the women she will influence won’t. There was a study showing that the rates of MLMs and antidepressant use are phenomenally high by women living in Utah.

@AssassinsEyebrow I did read the article! I only gleaned that the interviewer couldn't speak to her alone but that's because she has lots of kids and alone time doesn't really happen.

I don’t get it: with nine kids you have absolutely tons of laundry to wash, dry, iron, sort into piles (any other mother of a large family will be familiar with the phenomenon of somehow being the only person who knows whose pants are whose and whose socks are whose) put away, clean children, clean house, cook meals, tidy up after meals, plan next meals, and then home-educate on top? I don’t understand how it’s possible. I’d actually like the home-ed part, but I can see it’s hard to take a 10 and 12-year old through geographical features of erosion while you have toddlers and babies needing attention, plus other kids in between. Oh, and she has to do farming, obvs, because she’s the one who collects the eggs in her egg apron. No way could I cope with the drudgery. Or the weird beauty pageant stuff (not that I’d ever have the inclination or suitability!)

She was the first Juliard undergrad to get pregnant. No one gives up an opportunity like that. It's very sad how she gave up her dreams, she was a stunning dancer.

I thought this long before the interview as she made the hand guesture for help in a video on TikTok months ago. The video was deleted shortly after

Is anyone able/willing (I’m not sure how it works!) to use a share token to the original interview? There’s a link to it from that article, but you need to subscribe to read it. Thank you 🙏