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Manchester Airport Incident

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Hateam · 28/07/2024 08:55

After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

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FishersGate · 29/07/2024 07:21

Oblomov24 · 29/07/2024 07:01

@Hateam

Understandable?
Nope. The new video makes it worse. Or rather changes nothing. We already knew there was previous footage. But it still doesn't justify policeman's final actions, a kick down and a 2nd kick. He did one action, then a 2nd. Nothing excuses that. Nothing.

I think you need to rewatch carefully , all sorts of connotations can be taken from that video and are

FishersGate · 29/07/2024 07:19

Beefcurtains79 · 29/07/2024 05:37

I’m happy for the police to use excessive force in this case to be honest, him and his colleagues could’ve easily been killed doing their jobs.

We need to get back to criminals being scared of the police, not feeling justified in attacking them. They are currently cheered on and buoyed up by a lot of the public because it’s become trendy and virtue signalling to vilify the police and sympathise with criminals.

Exactly this as a member of the policing we seem to has lose a country what we want police to do. Because policing in the majority of other countries is very different especially where armed officers are concerned.

We are now as a society policing the police and have zero respect. We live in a lawless society. Young people do what they like when they like with no fear of the police.

Yes unnecessary incidents happen these are human beings but actually this is exactly what I would expect trained firearms officers to do in this situation, sadly the officer will come off far worse for doing his job than the thugs that felt necessary to start the violence - in front of their own families

Interesting the family have now switched the narrative and solicitor. I expect they weren't expecting this extra video to come this early. Makes their whinging compo story sad really

FishersGate · 29/07/2024 07:11

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:27

The police overreacted, they threw the first punches and were out of order from the beginning, the whole thing was completely unnecessary, Many good police are probably horrified by the unprofessional behaviour shown I suspect there was a racist agenda. The Asian brothers are from a police family. Unfortunately, the officers involved could not defend themselves after starting the fight. Note the charge is affray, I doubt there will be any prosecution of the two Asian brothers, the policeman who started it all is another matter.

Have you actually watched the footage so far ? Police did not 'start ' the matter

Oblomov24 · 29/07/2024 07:09

We've now seen the extra video. But it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I knew it was bad. But that's not the point.
Many punches.
But he's now been tasered. He's lying down, face down on the floor. The policeman then decides to kick him again. In the head. Not once, but twice.

And we've got @DancingNotDrowning -a barrister , saying "use whatever means necessary ".
ShockShockShock

Nope. I disagree. Nothing excuses the policeman's final conduct. Nothing.

Oblomov24 · 29/07/2024 07:01

@Hateam

Understandable?
Nope. The new video makes it worse. Or rather changes nothing. We already knew there was previous footage. But it still doesn't justify policeman's final actions, a kick down and a 2nd kick. He did one action, then a 2nd. Nothing excuses that. Nothing.

DancingNotDrowning · 29/07/2024 06:00

I spent years as a criminal barrister and tend to be somewhat suspicious of the police but seriously?!

this was a sustained and violent attack on armed officers, who were at real risk of being overpowered.

the “kicker” had been brutally assaulted, sustaining multiple punches to the head as well as being choked. He likely had no idea that the thug in the blue shirt had been successfully tasered and his priority would be to ensure that the individual was incapacitated.

personally if I’m in a public place today and armed officers are being smashed in the face by violent thugs I’m happy for them to use whatever means necessary to ensure the threat is contained and the public are safe.

Beefcurtains79 · 29/07/2024 05:37

Mama2many73 · 29/07/2024 00:42

We knew there'd be footage showing another side, which is awful.
BUT there was NO excuse for what the police officer did, at the time he did it. The man was face down on the floor with hands behind him, not being aggressive, not resisting arrest. I think its scary that loutish behaviour, often seen on police programmes from drunken nights out, was in his 'go to' behaviour at all.
And the brothers lawyer/solicitor needs to shut his mouth. He s not helping the situation or his clients!

I’m happy for the police to use excessive force in this case to be honest, him and his colleagues could’ve easily been killed doing their jobs.

We need to get back to criminals being scared of the police, not feeling justified in attacking them. They are currently cheered on and buoyed up by a lot of the public because it’s become trendy and virtue signalling to vilify the police and sympathise with criminals.

sashh · 29/07/2024 05:24

Cloudysky81 · 28/07/2024 13:05

Police don’t know for certain that anyone is unarmed. However in the UK only a tiny percentage of the population has access to firearms, so the presumption must be made that people are unarmed unless there is evidence showing otherwise.

An armed officer who has just been punched in the head several times by two men may well think one of them has taken his gun.

It will be interesting to see the footage from the police cameras.

Mama2many73 · 29/07/2024 00:42

We knew there'd be footage showing another side, which is awful.
BUT there was NO excuse for what the police officer did, at the time he did it. The man was face down on the floor with hands behind him, not being aggressive, not resisting arrest. I think its scary that loutish behaviour, often seen on police programmes from drunken nights out, was in his 'go to' behaviour at all.
And the brothers lawyer/solicitor needs to shut his mouth. He s not helping the situation or his clients!

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 29/07/2024 00:32

Those 2 thugs will be waiting for the knock on the door....I expect they will be arrested soon enough

shuggles · 28/07/2024 23:58

For far too long, "thug life" wannabe gangsters have been free to abuse, attack, and kill any figure of authority. This is something that is learned in school, and is never corrected because of poor standards of parenting.

If anyone attacks a police officer, they should fully expect and anticipate that those police officers are going to hit back. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Last point, for everyone saying the police officer acted excessively by kicking the man in the head; please bear in mind that if an armed police officer is being attacked and their life is in danger, they are justified in shooting their attacker dead. The attacker is very lucky that he was not shot dead.

Vic6 · 28/07/2024 22:06

For the extended family ^^

Vic6 · 28/07/2024 22:05

MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 21:55

Then they should know better than to confront the man which started this chain of events

Wow! Really? I feel an alternative film to The sound of Music might be coming soon…

MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 21:55

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:35

The brothers have eight police officers in their extended family

Then they should know better than to confront the man which started this chain of events

TheThingIsYeah · 28/07/2024 21:55

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:27

The police overreacted, they threw the first punches and were out of order from the beginning, the whole thing was completely unnecessary, Many good police are probably horrified by the unprofessional behaviour shown I suspect there was a racist agenda. The Asian brothers are from a police family. Unfortunately, the officers involved could not defend themselves after starting the fight. Note the charge is affray, I doubt there will be any prosecution of the two Asian brothers, the policeman who started it all is another matter.

As @whatdoidonowffs pointed out, save your fishing trip for another day, but I'll entertain you nevertheless. How do you know the police overreacted? None of us have seen the full CCTV - the one that includes the fracas in the Starbucks six minutes earlier. Which I expect will further make the "Asian brothers" settee compo stunt look even more ridiculous.

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 21:23

We will see when the investigation is done

Hedgerow2 · 28/07/2024 21:02

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:34

Watch the video carefully the first four punches are thrown by the police

I don't think so.

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:48

What fishing rod?

whatdoidonowffs · 28/07/2024 20:43

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:27

The police overreacted, they threw the first punches and were out of order from the beginning, the whole thing was completely unnecessary, Many good police are probably horrified by the unprofessional behaviour shown I suspect there was a racist agenda. The Asian brothers are from a police family. Unfortunately, the officers involved could not defend themselves after starting the fight. Note the charge is affray, I doubt there will be any prosecution of the two Asian brothers, the policeman who started it all is another matter.

Put your fishing rod away

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:35

The brothers have eight police officers in their extended family

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:34

Watch the video carefully the first four punches are thrown by the police

MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 20:32

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:27

The police overreacted, they threw the first punches and were out of order from the beginning, the whole thing was completely unnecessary, Many good police are probably horrified by the unprofessional behaviour shown I suspect there was a racist agenda. The Asian brothers are from a police family. Unfortunately, the officers involved could not defend themselves after starting the fight. Note the charge is affray, I doubt there will be any prosecution of the two Asian brothers, the policeman who started it all is another matter.

Were you there, did you see what happened close up and the events that led up to the police being called in the first place. What police relations do those brothers have.

LuckysDadsHat · 28/07/2024 20:31

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HeyTalkToMeGoose · 28/07/2024 20:31

Where did you see the police officer throw the first punch??

Beefcurtains79 · 28/07/2024 20:31

MNDavies · 28/07/2024 20:27

The police overreacted, they threw the first punches and were out of order from the beginning, the whole thing was completely unnecessary, Many good police are probably horrified by the unprofessional behaviour shown I suspect there was a racist agenda. The Asian brothers are from a police family. Unfortunately, the officers involved could not defend themselves after starting the fight. Note the charge is affray, I doubt there will be any prosecution of the two Asian brothers, the policeman who started it all is another matter.

Don’t feed it.

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