Manchester Airport Incident

Absolute bloody scrotes who should rot in jail. I cannot fathom why they are at home on the sofa instead of behind bars. The UK has become truly pathetic and increasingly dangerous as a result.

It may have been the glory hunting lawyer who ditched the family after seeing the full video.

it is also noteworthy that those worried about the man being kicked do not show the same concern about the officer being held/trapped while blows were rained down on his head.

i wonder whether the officer now has a “cyst” on the brain or any injuries that may have life long effects?

The brothers were very quick to become violent and seemed very capable with using their fists.

Am going to say fair play to the family of the suspects for ditching the glory hunting lawyer and also saying let the system sort it.

They didn't ditch him, he ditched himself. He's a careerist and well practised at self-PR, he knows better than to get involved with this shitshow, so he did the speediest reverse ferret since the Lord Almighty came down and spoke to Biden.

Anyone got the audio of the incident?

Is the guy on the floor saying fair cop guv or screaming obscenities/threats?

That's going to make a hell of a difference.

Am going to say fair play to the family of the suspects for ditching the glory hunting lawyer and also saying let the system sort it.

‘Do we ever reach a point of extreme stress and fear when ultimately we act solely on instinct rather then trained responses.’

All the time, apparently the police are able to overcome this completely natural response though! Well, according to the few posters who are utterly desperate to defend the woman and police beating scum.

Surely it comes down to how much physical control he had over his action. Fight or flight and the physiological response to extreme situations, when adrenaline takes over our minds.

Do we ever reach a point of extreme stress and fear when ultimately we act solely on instinct rather then trained responses.

what on earth do you think would have happened if the man (who had already knocked two officers unconscious, and smashed one in the face) had been able to get up and overpower them? Then what?

What would happen if he had an explosive vest. That's what the officer was probably thinking. Manchester Arena would be fresh in his mind.

Because not everyone responds to being tased. Raoul Moat for example was tased multiple times. There've been numerous examples in america where people get tased and still keep coming (whereupon they get shot, not granted fawning interviews on telly).

Tasing makes you lose control of your limbs and collapse but not necessarily lose consciousness, it's not a magic gun.

@Oblomov24 if you’re going to quote me perhaps include the whole sentence, otherwise you look manipulative.

but yes I am totally ok with the police doing whatever is necessary to keep the public safe. In that instant the police officer had no idea whether the man on the ground had in fact been incapacitated. I’ve seen enough examples of tasered thugs acting like wild animals to understand even if the officer knew the man had been tasered (and that’s unknown) he had no guarantee that the man was going to stay down.

what on earth do you think would have happened if the man (who had already knocked two officers unconscious, and smashed one in the face) had been able to get up and overpower them? Then what?

they were literally fighting for their lives.

They had taser guns, the bolts were still implanted. All they needed to do if he needed further subduing was fire another shot of electricity. Why would they need to use any more than that?

Agree all these pp expecting so much more than other police forces get to use to keep themselves safe you’ll end up with no one protecting you

Imagine the reality of that violence and what other countries do, it’s easy to post on mn this stuff but it doesn’t help

No action is unforgivable if you have been punched repeatedly in the head. It will have had a huge impact on his brain function and decision making at that moment in time and he may not even have been able to see properly
The person responsible for the action is the one who punched him.

In a way, I could understand if the policeman had lost it, and given the guy a kick in the ribs or a slap, but a kick and stamp on the head is life threatening and unforgivable.

He has been punched multiple times in the head!! Do you not think that would have an impact on his decision making?

Yes, I've seen that @Dancingmonkeyfeet.

The police officer then moves away, onto the other suspect and kicks him. So he's kicked 3 times.

Are people serious expecting a policeman think carefully and logically before acting if they had received multiple blows to the head? The "victim " is lucky he didn't get shot and killed.

No it’s absolutely not right. That said, I would probably have felt and possibly done the same if I’d experienced what he had just experienced (why I shouldnt be a police officer) I also don’t really have an issue with him keeping his job….

Yes I made this point earlier about how difficult it is becoming to recruit people into frontline roles in certain professions because they face violence AND endless criticism from keyboard warriors/ the media. We will miss them when a critical mass of people say I'm not doing this job anymore.

Your not seeing the police officer in a choke hold or receiving multiple blows to the head?

Maybe you need glasses …

People have dissected the video at 0.5 speed. It shows the policeman receiving multiple blows to the head and that the thug raised his head before the kick. The policeman didn't know he had been tasered. He might have been about to jump up and continue attacking. He did exactly what he was trained to do- incapacitate a threat without killing him even when he had been choked and stunned.

He should get a bloody medal!

The police officer stamped on the guy's head because a) he thought he had taken or tried to take his gun and b) the officer had just taken a blow to the head from the same man and was panicked.

I think any criticism from anyone who has not been in a situation of life or death split second decision making, they should pipe down and thank their lucky stars they don't have to do such a scary and dangerous job.

More broadly I think Brits have a real problem with policing. On the one hand they expect police officers to run towards danger and act fast where a terrorist incident is suspected - look at how much criticism the anti-terror police came in for not acting on suspicions at Manchester Arena bombing.

On the other hand they expect the same police, in those terrifying moments when for all they know a bomb might be about to go off in the airport, (and they are specifically trained to expect the worst case scenario in action, for OUR safety) to take the time to calm down and think of every outcome or how their action might look to idiots on twitter.

In my country of origin, a family who attacked police in an airport would be full of more holes than swiss cheese about 1.2 seconds later. They wouldn't be hiring lawyers and giving interviews on telly.

The British attitude is unsustanible and no wonder police are quitting their jobs at historically high levels. The Brits will soon see what life is like when there aren't enough police to keep any control.

No one is suggesting that these 2 men aren't thugs. And need the law to deal with them. There no doubt of that.

But that's a completely separate issue. To the conduct of the policeman. And his 2 final kicks.

Sorry, what am I missing. I've watched all the videos available, both initial ones and subsequent. A number of times. What is it I'm not seeing? @FishersGate

Even after seeing it, and watching again, I still haven't seen anything that's changed my mind. What should I be noticing?

Disrespectful family of thugs, appalling that people like that have such little respect thry will happily treat Police in that way and inside an airport! Can't believe we have got to this stage in the UK where people are comfortable behaving like this. Surely its prison for those thugs.

The Policeman, he needs to be investigated properly, I feel for him who wouldn't react to being repeatedly set on as he and his colleagues were but if his reaction isn't in line with his role. I'm not sure what they are permitted to do in a situation where a criminal can not be controlled, by that stage his fellow officers were unable to assist in controlling this mob.

I feel sad for him hit and potentially loose his job all because of thugs.