Manchester Airport Incident

NHS staff are regularly assaulted at work and the police are called. Teachers are regularly assaulted at work and nothing happens. I’ve never heard of NHS staff or teachers stamping on heads.

Why is it a poor comparison? people in those professions deal with assault on a regular basis often without back up on hand

It's shocking that it took so long for the full video to come out.

it's not. we have a legal system for the punishment of crimes. It's not for the police to dish it out on the spot.

I'm sorry but this post is awful.
I have a friend who was head of an armed response unit (now retired) and he is the calmest and gentlest person you could imagine.
The exact sort of person you would want in the job. The vast majority of our police are honest, well trained and are trying to do a good job.
This police officer lost control and you absolutely can't have armed response officers losing control. I hope he is sacked and sentenced appropriately.

As for the scumbag who assaulted the female police officer, I really hope he gets a long sentence.

I didn’t view any of the footage until today, so watched it in its entirety before making a judgment.

First thing; having watched the incident with the police officer up close repeatedly I don’t think he stamps on the other man’s head. I think he stamps on the other persons hand. I don’t think contact with the head is made - I could be wrong, but it doesn’t appear so. If he does, that’s pretty shocking. The kick to the face is unpleasant however if there is a degree of trying to further disable the man without the use of hands as they are trained to then that could potentially make sense, however he already looks like he’s a bit out of it.

There is no defending this group of men. The idea that they don’t know who they’re attacking is ludicrous - they keep going and going. They need to be arrested and charged. I don’t understand enough about police training and procedures to comment on the police face kick - I’d want to understand more about training to comment, potentially this needs to be addressed. If he stamps on his head, that’s abhorrent. If he doesn’t, as I suspect, then that needs to be ignored as it isn’t a factor.

I do believe that we have major issues in this country on both sides - the law is not something to be afraid of. Police are regularly attacked, they don’t have much protection and sentencing is a joke.

However there is also an undercurrent of issues within the police force that we keep hearing about which is scary.

I don’t want us to end up in the same state as America. What happened over there recently with poor Sonya Massey is horrific, but I also want to start seeing criminals properly dealt with with, rather than rapists and paedophiles and violent criminals having short sentences and getting away with stuff.

These sorts of incidents need to be a catalyst for review and change.

No it's really not and the problem is too many people don't seem to see what the underlying connection is. Thugs behaving like thugs without consequence.

But go ahead take a career change!

If you can't control your temper in challenging and violent situations you shouldn't be a police officer

Totally agree with this, but unfortunately it won’t be shown I doubt. Wondering if your a fellow employee in T2 who also watched the WHOLE situation unfold.

Oh this is fantastic! So it's MY fault now! That's a twist even I didn't see coming in this sorry tale 😂

Why don't you go back and read the bit where I said the officer clearly did wrong?

It being MY fault that thugs I never met attacked armed police officers is probably my favourite example of MN wokery I've ever read 😂

Do you know this guy?

It's a very fine line. It looks like they detained the suspect a couple of times and he broke free grabbing for the guns, so when the suspect was detained the final time the officer wants to make sure he stays down at all costs. The officer's lives are at risk and it happens in seconds, it's not like the suspect is detained fully and then kicked, it's all happened within a few seconds. If someone were grabbing for a weapon from me I'd want to make sure they have no chance of getting it. The officer clearly hasn't done it out of spite but out of fear of the suspect breaking free again.

The people I know who do these jobs, are far too experienced to pass judgement without a thorough understanding of what preceded this video (and any other context).

A lot of focus has been on the female officer who has her nose broken (her blood is spattered all over the floor) but the male officer who did the kick was punched repeatedly in the head, hard and fast, by two men, one of whom had jumped on his back and grabbed him round the neck. He didn't taser this man himself so may not even have realised he had been tasered when he was on the floor. It looked as if the man was trying to get up.

So, you've taken repeated blows to the head from two men who have been involved in previous violent incidents at an airport, you are in panic mode and very probably dazed from the blows, you are dealing with two men who are acting like they have committed a crime so bad it is worth beating up three armed police officers to escape arrest: would you let him get up from the floor? Would you bend down so he can grab or hit you again?

Whoever put the original video up was looking to start sectarian riots. The lawyer and the two brothers were willing to promote that original, dangerous narrative. These are people who would have let Manchester burn for their own ends.

There will ALWAYS be people who want this job. Comparing police to NHS and teachers is a poor comparison.

A more comparable job would be security guards, prison wardens etc, many of whom failed to become police officers.

Exactly.

I support the police officer wholeheartedly.

We all knew that these lads were trouble but the media choose to show them being battered by the police. Of course these lads kicked off first, wonder what their grandstanding gobshite of a lawyers has to say now? No doubt he will still blame the white coppers. Chancers and liars.

It's vital for incidents like this to be considered on merit, not on a text book ideal.

The majority of police will never find themselves in a scenario like this, fortunately.

The officer should keep his job.

I mean, who attacks, punches and chokes armed police?

Who dragged these idiots up? The 'mother' seen with them? She must be so proud...

The policeman who kicked the man in the head is not suitable to work in this area as he was unable to control himself the man was laying on the floor at the time at the point of time he was not a treat he was not defending himself and he brutally attacked him

police (and other professions that have to deal with violence/physical attacks/threats) ) have to remain in control and have extensive training for this

he will most likely be put on a desk job which is the right role for him not dealing with the public as he can’t manage violent situations without resorting to unnecessary
violence himself

Officers didn't know that at the time

Toerags are lucky they weren't shot!

And a big part of why it's going down the toilet is because people like you support/excuse retributive 'justice' being dished out by those who are supposed to uphold the law.

If the officer had done his job with the professionalism that should be demanded of the police this would have been a straightforward case. Now, because of his actions the offender is also a victim.

This was a serious assault on armed police, the reaction was split second stuff. Looking at the whole picture, the officer in question should NOT lose his job.

A good battering is all that some people understand.

I didn't need to see the footage to understand the officers actions. It was clear from the description of the event.
But understanding that in that moment, his adrenaline had kicked in, he was probably terrified for himself and his colleagues and the public around them, and he lashed out. And understanding that the people involved had been involved in 2 incidents prior and are clearly violent thugs.....nome of that makes what he did "right" or justified.

It's not his job to dish out punishment.
And losing his temper in those circumstances Doesn't make him a bad person.
It would NEVER have happened if he hadn't been attacked first, but it still shouldn't have happened.
All these things are true, none of us are perfect.

The independent investigation(s) need to run their course.