Manchester Airport Incident

Your first two paragraphs was how I rationalised it to my husband. The offer probably did not realize that the younger guy had been immobilised as he was the one on his back. There was not time to think so he saw him down and kicked him to get him to stay down.

Neither is punching a woman (or a man). He could have killed her. And she was doing her job protecting you and me.

And he definitely shouldn’t be sacked- he probably needs some counselling and further training to help him deal with situations like this. I have not an ounce of sympathy for the criminals that caused the situation- they are clearly dangerous people and if you start a fight then you should expect to get hurt!

How difficult is it to work out that at the point the officer was kicking and stamping on the man on the ground, the police did not have to use any force to restrain him? Ditto the man on the chairs at the back, who was just sitting there with his hands up to his head in a surrender gesture. He was simply complying with the officer's demand that he lie down when he was gratuitously kicked in the legs and hit on the head. None of that is justifiable.

The law DOESN'T work in the UK.

Can you link? Viewing it closely it does appear that he stamps on the hand and doesn’t make contact with the head, however I am happy to accept I’m wrong.

I worked for many years with young adults with learning difficulties many of whom had challenging behaviour, staff members were assaulted on a daily basis quite often needing hospital treatment, I never ever saw any of my colleagues attack someone who had just attacked them, you maybe feel that you want to that's human nature but your training should allow you to restrain without harm, the officer in question was out of control and not suited to working in a highly emotive environment in my opinion

A legal system for the punishment of crimes? What an absolute fucking joke. There are significant elements of society who know full well that they can do what the hell they like with zero consequences and in this case probably pocket a tidy compo settlement. Why do you think NSH staff, teachers etc are regularly assaulted? Because perpetrators know they can get away with it!! The onus is on the recipient to 'control' their reactions rather than where it SHOULD be equally, which is the behaviour of these thugs. They got what they asked for. You can't control the nervous system with the rational brain when you get too far into fight or flight; it is biologically impossible; what some posters are asking for here is simply not humanly possible.

What led up to the police being called in the first place, no one has mentioned that.

I’m actually in agreement with you and yes I can understand, thank you.

Oh I agree with you. For most people, when being seriously attack you will try and defend yourself which potentially means attacking back. We expect so much from our police. With very little power we expect them to face and apprehend extremely dangerous people, put themselves on the front line every day, then complain when they aren’t perfect.

Zero sympathy for the scumbags attacking the police. Fuck around and find out.

The guy doesn't have a mark on him, quite clearly wasn't kicked hard enough very hard. He was behaving like a psychopath. Anywhere else he'd likely have ended up dead or severely battered.
Being the UK he'll likely end up with a nice big compo package.

Are you actually understanding what I'm writing? Because you seem to somehow think I'm defending the lowlife idiots who attacked police officers.

Having watched the assault on the police officer then I can absolutely understand his reaction to this disgusting violent criminal. Taking a complete beating from a member of the public, enough to render you unconscious and deeding hospital treatment would test the professionalism of any person.

As for blaming it on racist police officers - well I think the new footage shows it had nothing to do with their race- these were just violent trouble causing thugs who simply believe they are above the law!

BBC Verify have gone through this with the video slowed down and the picture maximised. It's clear he stamped on the man's head.

I hope those repulsive thugs get locked up.
The police did well here to restrain them and protect the public having been violently attacked themselves.

He was probably in full fight or flight mode after the worst few minutes of his life.

No one is saying his actions don't need investigated but seriously - why do people expect other humans to have superhuman patience in the face of the most extreme provocation?

If you are stupid enough to attack armed police you should expect a bullet through the head.
Fools!

Ten times worse? When the man is tasered, on the ground and unable to defend himself, and when the person doing the kicking and stamping is a police officer with a duty to uphold the law? I don't excuse the attack on the police officer at all, but it is not ten times worse.

Getting bail and sitting in front of the cameras crying victim ( even the mum who on the video is shown to be injured by her son throwing punches) after violently attacking armed police and breaking a female officers nose.
Regardless of the police officers actions afterwards - what message is this sending out?
I have seen so many videos of police being violently attacked.
What an absolute joke.
No he should not have stamped on his head when he was no longer a threat but where the hell is the protection for police officers that put their lives in the line daily.
They do not always get it right and when they are caught out they should be held to account.
But can the same be said for the criminals that think it’s fine to attack officers?
Everybody expecting the police to be perfect, but what protection do they get?
Police brutality is not ok but attacking police officers and then sitting in front of cameras playing the victim and looking for a payout?
Fuck off!!

I suppose some people’s argument is that they should be trained TO remain calm in these moments. As I said in my post, this may potentially lead to questions about training, but we don’t know if the kick in the face was part of ‘disarming’ - not that the guy looked like he needed further disarming. I’d want to understand more about training given.

The police are expected to be Robocop or Marvel goodies not actual human beings according to some on this thread.

I don't think temper is the right word. The officer had been attacked - punched and strangled. Your body will release adrenaline and it's human instinct to protect yourself. I doubt any human could make a calm rational decision in that moment.

Yes and to be clear - I was celebrating people like your retired friend. It saddens me the contempt with which people talk about the police - people doing a stressful, dangerous job for the good of society.

The poster who took my quote out of context has their own agenda, most recently saying 'people like me' made these absolute thugs attack serving police officers.