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Maramay · 28/07/2024 03:52

A male friend of mine lost his dad 10 months ago and has been really depressed. I was helping him through it and about 5 months after his dad passed, our relationship turned into more and we started dating.

It’s a really lovely relationship but his depression has definitely featured heavily. We don’t go out and drink together as booze was making him more upset. He’s been very clear that I shouldn’t suggest going out drinking, in fact. We’ve had some lovely times together but I’ve never really seen him truly happy in the last 10 months.

He went out with a mutual female friend last night and called me, very drunk, to tell me he’d had “the best night ever” and “he’s never felt happier”. She’d taken him out for a few (many many) beers and to a club, by all accounts.

i can’t help feel a bit put out by this. I know it isn’t aimed at me but I’ve spent the best part of a year trying to help him break through the fog with love and care and patience, and never really succeeded. She’s done it with a few drinks and a night of partying, something he told me he never wanted to do.

I don’t think this friend is any specific threat, to our relationship, as such, she’s a friend of us both, but the whole thing is really hurtful.

It was all I could do not to say “well, I’m glad she finally managed to cheer you up, when I never managed it. Please consider this my two weeks notice, thanks”.

He knew I was a bit put out on the phone but he was too drunk to have a proper conversation with. I ended up telling him it was nice to hear him happy, and leaving it at that.

I’m stewing on it now and can’t sleep and can’t decide whether to say something when I talk to him tomorrow.

My feelings are really really hurt. I know I should just be happy that he’s happy, but I feel really upset. What‘s more, I feel like all the time and patience I’ve poured into being there for him been worthless as none of the lovely things we’ve done together have ever elicited half the excitement he seemed to have when he called after that night out.

OP posts:
SeulementUneFois · 28/07/2024 08:17

honestyISkind · 28/07/2024 04:25

I'd just ditch him, to be honest. Sounds like you are doing a lot, receiving little and are unhappy with what you are receiving - why not move on and find someone that suits better?

And you're nobody's comfort blanket or counsellor, you've given him plenty of time to cry on your shoulder. If you've had enough, that's fine.

Edited

Agree with this OP.

xTheLoudLeaderx · 28/07/2024 08:17

Maybe now he’s actually been out you two can start going out ? Like he’s ripped of the bandage. Try see a possible positive in it. Maybe he needed a night out even if he thought he didn’t. Or it might have done him good to get out with someone else and even though it’s harsh but just to socialise with someone else. Obviously as long as that’s all it was, you said she wasn’t a threat.

Ask him how he feels this morning and if you do like him I wouldn’t be too mad at this, I’d just see it for what it is

Projectme · 28/07/2024 08:17

AGoingConcern · 28/07/2024 04:37

He’s drunk, OP. She didn’t cure his depression or bring him genuine happiness, she just bought him alcohol that impaired his cognitive function for a few hours.

If drinking actually cured sadness or grief or mental health issues then we wouldn’t have alcoholics in the world… alcoholism exists because as soon as the alcohol that temporarily deadens everything wears off all the bad feelings come rushing back (usually plus interest), and people are worse off than they started. Then they drink again and again and again trying to bring back that temporary relief.

Regardless, it’s absolutely not your job to fix his grief or depression - it wasn’t as a friend and it isn’t as his girlfriend. What he needs is for his friends and girlfriends to be supportive of his process as he works through it. If you’re taking it on yourself to make helping him your goal, this probably isn’t a healthy relationship.

Edited

Oh this with bloody bells on!

Perfectly said 👏

Takenoprisoner · 28/07/2024 08:15

Considering how the relationship started, I think its safe to say that he sees you as a support human being for him, and not someone to have fun with. That's a tough dynamic to break out of.

Do you do anything for fun together?

gardenmusic · 28/07/2024 08:14

OP isn't his wife. She is a newish girlfriend from a longer standing friendship.
He has told her that he does not want to go out drinking, and that she should not suggest it - then he goes out with another woman, gets drunk and tells OP how wonderful it was.
Absolute slap in the face. OP has become the comfort blanket, the one to come home to. She did not choose that, and is quite rightly annoyed at it.

RubyGemStone · 28/07/2024 08:14

This relationship is doomed, I'd get out now.

Women love a project and the chance to heal an nurture a poor broken man, the feeling of being needed is seemingly unmatched.

You will spend eternity in this dynamic, everything wrong will relate back to his grief, until he's healed and he has the strength to find someone else that isn't linked to his grief. Seen this happen so many times with bereaved people unfortunately.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 28/07/2024 08:13

CheekyHobson · 28/07/2024 04:29

I’m a bit 🤔at some of these responses. Ten months after my adored dad died I wasn’t so depressed that I couldn’t function normally, and I certainly wouldn’t have gone out getting smashed as a form of therapy with an opposite-sex mate after repeatedly telling my partner I wasn’t up for drinking.

OP I do think your boyfriend has behaved quite poorly and it’s drawing a rather long bow to make it all about his dad’s passing. If the relationship is otherwise very good I would give it a couple more days cooling-down period before raising why he went out drinking with a mate after telling you to avoid all mention, and that you found it a bit insensitive for him to call you drunk and raving about what an amazing time he was having with someone else.

If he can discuss it reasonably then, all good. If he brings it up himself without needing to be prompted, even better. But if he brushes off your feelings, I’d certainly be stepping away myself.

Definitely agree with this. I too would be miffed at his behaviour and I would be questioning whether we were right together if one drunken night out with some other female friend meant so much more than all the time effort and effort I’d put into trying to make him happy

LostittoBostik · 28/07/2024 08:11

Either you love him and want to support him as a partner or you don't. This reads very clearly that you don't. Let him free.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/07/2024 08:11

Drunk does not = truly happy.

He's been grieving. He hasn't felt sociable. Now he did, once. He's let his hair down, feels a bit better temporarily and told you he's happy. And you are contemplating ending your relationship over this.

See how he feels hungover. See how he is once he's recovered. See if there's any real change, or if it's one step towards him starting to move on. And then decide how you feel.

You can end a relationship for any reason you like, but "he said he was happy once while he was drunk after losing his dad 10 months ago" won't reflect well on you. And you will probably regret ending it for that reason in the future, if it really is a good relationship.

xTheLoudLeaderx · 28/07/2024 08:10

I’d cut him some slack. You’re upset by it clearly - so I would go about your day today and then speak to him in person if it still upsets you. You’ve invested a lot of time into him - you are allowed to be upset but your wording it’s really poor and seems jealous.

Firefly1987 · 28/07/2024 08:09

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 28/07/2024 07:56

I agree with every well thought out word.

I would be incredibly pissed off by him stopping me having any fun with a few drinks, then at the first opportunity he does exactly that, plus puts the boot in telling her he’d had the best night ever with another woman.

Where did the OP say he stopped her from going out drinking with mates? She just said he didn't want her to suggest they go out for drinks together-that's how I read it anyway.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 28/07/2024 08:06

This feels a little pathetic, if I'm honest.
Making him happy isn't a competition.
He had also been drinking, people say that sort of stuff when they're drunk.

I guarantee you wouldn't have felt this way if it had been a male friend that had made him 'drunk happy'.
Just female competitiveness.

Lurkingandlearning · 28/07/2024 08:06

honestyISkind · 28/07/2024 07:23

I suggest she doesn't send it, not because it's wrong or that she's wrong, but I have a strong suspicion that he will then arc up, claim she's insecure and needy and blab to anyone who will listen to him about what a meany she was. Anytime a woman has boundaries she is painted as insecure and needy, especially by men who are disrespectful to women.

I believe she should ditch him with finality, and give him no reason beyond it's not working out for her, thanks for the memories, goodbye.

I see your point and think you’re right.

PonkyPonky · 28/07/2024 08:04

Going against the grain here but isn’t this just a standard thing for drunk people to say? I wouldn’t take it to mean he’s actually had the best night ever. It’s just drunken enthusiasm. If you’re otherwise happy in the relationship, I would just say what you’ve said here and have a conversation about it all. I’d bet he’d be mortified to think he’s made you feel like this with a brief drunken phone call.

supersop60 · 28/07/2024 08:02

Inthestillnessofremembering · 28/07/2024 05:05

As someone who has very recently lost a parent within the last few months, I can hopefully share a bit of a perspective from the other side. I absolutely adore my husband, we've been together nearly 20 years and together with my kids, he is my absolute favourite person in the world and my best friend. He's been absolutely fantastic throughout my grief, but I have in fact pulled away from him at times as I don't want to be comforted and hugged because it tends to make me more upset. I've withdrawn a lot socially and whilst I still see my friends, I'm not as social as I was prior to losing my dad. With some encouragement, I had a night out recently with some friends and it was amazing. I wasn't at home thinking about my dad, no one was trying to comfort me and being with them temporarily took my mind off of what I was feeling. It wasn't about my grief, it was just about being with friends. But that one night didn't heal me from my grief, it just gave me temporary pause because I wasn't thinking about it. When I'm at home and not in a setting of drinking and gossiping and enjoying a night out, I'm thinking more about my loss. He won't be cured of his grief, he's just had a night where it wasn't in the forefront of his mind. Just because I had a great night with my friends, doesn't negate the love and affection I have for my husband.

This makes total sense
OP - he isn't suddenly cured of his grief, he's just had a great night out, and wanted to share it with you.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 28/07/2024 07:56

CheekyHobson · 28/07/2024 04:29

I’m a bit 🤔at some of these responses. Ten months after my adored dad died I wasn’t so depressed that I couldn’t function normally, and I certainly wouldn’t have gone out getting smashed as a form of therapy with an opposite-sex mate after repeatedly telling my partner I wasn’t up for drinking.

OP I do think your boyfriend has behaved quite poorly and it’s drawing a rather long bow to make it all about his dad’s passing. If the relationship is otherwise very good I would give it a couple more days cooling-down period before raising why he went out drinking with a mate after telling you to avoid all mention, and that you found it a bit insensitive for him to call you drunk and raving about what an amazing time he was having with someone else.

If he can discuss it reasonably then, all good. If he brings it up himself without needing to be prompted, even better. But if he brushes off your feelings, I’d certainly be stepping away myself.

I agree with every well thought out word.

I would be incredibly pissed off by him stopping me having any fun with a few drinks, then at the first opportunity he does exactly that, plus puts the boot in telling her he’d had the best night ever with another woman.

AgnesX · 28/07/2024 07:52

Maramay · 28/07/2024 04:04

Sorry to reply to my own post - just thinking it through.

Would like to send him a text, for when he wakes up tomorrow, saying “hey, been giving it some thought and given femalefriend was able to show you the best night ever, and really cheer you up, and I’ve really never managed to, I’ll probably step away from this now as it doesn’t sit right that you should be with someone who can’t even make you half as happy as a drunk night out did. Best of luck with everything”.

I know I shouldn’t say that, of course, but that’s how I feel.

Definitely don't do that. Just withdraw quietly and gracefully.

It sounds like he's capable of standing on his own two feet now.
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GreyCarpet · 28/07/2024 07:51

Theunamedcat · 28/07/2024 07:42

Sounds like he treated you like a rehab centre

I don't think he did it intentionally though.

I was going through a very difficult time when I began seeing my ex husband. Looking back, it was a very unhealthy, dysfunctional relationship, but neither of us realised it at the time. I needed someone and he needed to he needed. Much like the OPs situation in reverse. We'd been friends (with no hint of attraction) for years beforehand (since school) and the whole thing was a car crash from the start but neither of us could see it.

I'd imagine this situation is similar.

charabang · 28/07/2024 07:50

I'd send the text. You don't have to be the reasonable, forgiving one. If he's hurt you by what he's said, let him know.

Lillers · 28/07/2024 07:49

I am going to go in a slightly different direction here, and ask… OP, do you quite like being his emotional support person? Lots of people here have suggested that he is using you etc, but I know very well that there are some people out there who really feel valued when someone is relying on them 100%, and get uncomfortable when that person starts to move away and need their support less.

Mybeltsblue · 28/07/2024 07:48

I can see why you're annoyed. I would be too, in the moment. It feels like a slap in the face.

But, I think the best course of action is to say nothing and calm down, tempting as it is to have it out right now.

This isn't about you or your relationship. He's had an expected night out and forgotten his problems, but today he will feel like shit because that's what alcohol does.

It might have done him so good in the sense it's reminded him he can have fun and enjoy socialising again.

But it was just a distraction, that's all. If he'd got that drunk with you he might have ended up sobbing because he trusts you.

This situation aside, your relationship does sound very hard work for something so new. Does he see a therapist or go to a support group? I would be wary of being his sole support system and chief happiness provider.

He needs to work through his grief himself, and you need to be his girlfriend first and foremost.

gardenmusic · 28/07/2024 07:46

I'm trying to copy Honestyiskind's messages because I agree with them, but they are not copying.
You have shown kindness and consideration to your friend, and in return have become 'the bad time friend' - the one with whom to share the bad times and the tears, while a night out with another friend has been great fun and let them feel good. (The euphoria will not last, grief does not work like that)
It's upsetting for you to hear his comments, and he has shown you your role in his life.
I would leave, it's a poor thanks for supporting him thus far.

HalfMumHalfBiccit · 28/07/2024 07:46

Firefly1987 · 28/07/2024 04:15

I voted YABU (although it seems I'm in the minority) because he's lost his dad only 10 months ago and now he's finally able to be in a place where he can actually enjoy a night out and you're upset he's had a good time. You've helped him through all the grief, he's not going to forget that-plus he couldn't wait to call you and tell you how much fun he's having. Because he wanted to share that with you. If the friend is no threat to you I'd just let it go and be happy for him that's he's finally in a place he can enjoy things again.

Agree

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 28/07/2024 07:45

I agree - but don’t send the text as he can use this against you. Just meet up and have an honest chat. This isn’t working, you’ll still be there if he needs a friend etc.

Genevieva · 28/07/2024 07:44

You’ve been missing out on fun because of him, so of course it’s hurtful. He sounds self-obsessed. You are better off leaving him and finding someone who adores you, cares whether you had a good night out and doesn’t treat you like a free therapist and PA.

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