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Violated by MIL

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Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:04

My MIL kissed the back of my neck.

Today i was hosting a birthday party for DD2 and had invited MIL because it's the right thing to do (not because I wanted her there).

When MIL arrived she completely ignored me - for the whole party barely more the 5 words were exchanged between us! (great, no complaints from me) however, as she was leaving I had my DD on my lap and so couldn't easily get up to say good bye, so she comes from my behind and plants a slobbery kiss on the back of my neck. There was nothing to stop her coming around to my front to say bye.

I was never felt more cringed or violated in my life. It doesn't help that I really detest the woman. My DH said he saw the whole exchange and thought it was very weird.

How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again

OP posts:
Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 06:53

Thank you for all for comments. You've given me a lot to reflect on.

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Exactlab · 28/07/2024 06:46

Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:27

Yes I've felt more violated before but this was completely unexpected and gross. I can psychologically still feel where I was kissed

It was a weird power play.

It was actually a gift. Now you don’t have to have her in your house ever again.

LBFseBrom · 28/07/2024 06:45

I doubt your mother-in-law thought it out and she was rather clumsy with her 'goodbye' kiss, however I'm sure she meant not harm and 'violated' is a ridiculously strong word. You obviously don't like her and probably convey that to her, which would make her quiet and nervous around you.

Try to put it behind you, you haven't been abused.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 06:45

Noodlehen · 28/07/2024 06:32

Was she drunk?

I agree with the poster saying it was probably a clumsy goodbye. You clearly don’t like her so I don’t think you’d have been happy with any interaction. She’s probably mortified (if it was an accident)

as for the “violated” debate. Violating someone can be done many ways - not just SAs. Violating is a disrespectful act or crossing someone’s boundaries - surely what Mil done (if on purpose) is just that?

No she wasn't drunk. In fact she had refused all food and drink apart from cake and had sat in the corner the entire time

OP posts:
AnnaL94 · 28/07/2024 06:43

Bluebirdover · 28/07/2024 06:42

You don't like her, anything she does will be wrong!

If someone I liked randomly sloppy kissed me from
behind on the back of my neck I’d be grossed out …

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 06:43

For those saying I'm not very nice myself, I understand why it may look like that. But for context she made my cry whilst 9 months pregnant because she started spreading malicious lies about me at a wedding after I said she couldn't watch me give birth. Since then i have done everything possible to avoid her. x

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Bluebirdover · 28/07/2024 06:42

You don't like her, anything she does will be wrong!

Noodlehen · 28/07/2024 06:32

Was she drunk?

I agree with the poster saying it was probably a clumsy goodbye. You clearly don’t like her so I don’t think you’d have been happy with any interaction. She’s probably mortified (if it was an accident)

as for the “violated” debate. Violating someone can be done many ways - not just SAs. Violating is a disrespectful act or crossing someone’s boundaries - surely what Mil done (if on purpose) is just that?

autienotnaughty · 28/07/2024 06:30

I don't think I would raise it after the event but if it happens again I would address it in the moment

autienotnaughty · 28/07/2024 06:28

What would have happened if you had stood up?

A hug?
Kiss on the cheek?

Is a kiss normal as a good bye?

kitchendiscotime · 28/07/2024 06:27

I would find this absolutely repellent and I cannot believe people are minimising it!

Being kissed unexpectedly on the back of the neck:
By husband, best friend - fine
By someone else you have a positive or neutral relationship with - a bit weird
By someone you have a negative relationship with - actively aggressive

Her being your MIL has nothing to do with it.

I would have a short sharp word next time you see her. "Please don't ever do that again" you should do it.

Howtoeatanelephant · 28/07/2024 06:21

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 00:59

While it may have been repulsive and unwelcome, I think "violated" is way OTT!

This, ffs!

ZoeLoey · 28/07/2024 06:20

More fake stories for views. Sad really

Howtoeatanelephant · 28/07/2024 06:18

Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:26

Thank you x

Ah, i see. You don't want to justify your overly dramatic use of a word, as pointed out by many PPs, you just want people to agree with you.
Ok.

mrschocolatte · 28/07/2024 06:16

honestyISkind · 28/07/2024 04:01

Sadly, the flying monkey harridans from hell appear to have landed.

On any mumsnet post, no matter the conversation, and regardless of how they actually feel about anything, the harridans from hell Mumsnet Monkeys may land, screeching.

These are the sort of women who would have been comfortable as a bully second class in school. They see the head bully being undermined and they fly around to screech their approval.

They do not care, at all, about the subject matter, but they feel a desperate need to win.

They are incredibly tedious and will deflect, derail and jab from different angles in an attempt to wound and win the argument.

You cannot debate a flying monkey as they are making it up as they go.

Projection too is the name of the game as they ascribe the sort of vile feelings they themselves are capable of to anybody who disagrees with them.

So I will have to bow out now because it's boring and pointless to stay around as a target for Flying Monkeys.

So, just once more OP. Sorry this happened, it was a bit ick and gross. If she tries it again speak up clearly and confidently.

And stop saying violated as it's OTT and hyperbolic and you won't win anybody to your cause by doing that.

Ciao xox

Your lack of insight in to your own behaviour is telling. Sharing your opinion once is grand. But to then state you will continually do that with the OP, sounds a lot like the bullying behaviour you so clearly detest from some of us.

mrschocolatte · 28/07/2024 06:07

OP, I’m sorry so many people have tried to make you out as being OTT. You are perfectly entitled to feel the way you do and use the language you see fit to describe it. People may not agree but who cares? This happened to you not to them so they can’t begin to understand how this made you feel. If this had happened to me with my MIL I would feel the same way as I dislike mine intensely. She has crossed a boundary with you. I don’t agree this is just a DH problem. Yes, he can stand up for you on your behalf but she needs to hear from you how this made you feel and why it was wrong. So do it together as a united front.

Howtoeatanelephant · 28/07/2024 05:40

As a person who experienced SA as a child, your use of violated is rather extreme imho.

Poettree · 28/07/2024 05:26

To violate means to break a rule or formal agreement.

In this case, the accepted rule in social events is that you don't slobber kiss other people's necks without consent, especially if you're otherwise not that friendly with them.

So actually the use of this word is correct.

I get that it's an emotive word and is often understood as meaning sexual violation but in this case it's both accurate and valid.

Sorry to spoil the weird pleasure some people get from pouncing on the OP for hours.... maybe go get some fresh air?

MeAgainAndAgain · 28/07/2024 05:10

So apparently OP, you’re only allowed to feel violated when everyone agrees. It seems like you can’t have your own feelings and opinions.

Zanatdy · 28/07/2024 05:06

honestyISkind · 28/07/2024 03:14

I'm not dreading being an MIL at all, despite mumsnetters pointing out often that their mother's in law are appalling people and reading so many family issues on here.

That's because I can maintain boundaries, I don't try to steamroller new mums, I never try to appropriate what's not mine, I am respectful and compassionate, I don't think I am more important than other people in my family, and if my daughter in law turns out to be unpleasant I will keep my distance, maintain a great relationship with my son and manage it like an adult rather than trying to constantly win.

I am the same but that doesn’t mean your DIL won’t take a dislike to you, for whatever reason. I don’t think these MIL who are hated here are all people who don’t maintain boundaries etc. It doesn’t take much for some women to take a dislike

Fraaahnces · 28/07/2024 05:06

Gross…. I can only imagine myself in that situation and I would have frozen to the spot and then been unable to shower off the revulsion.

Lavenderfields121 · 28/07/2024 04:50

Tbh you sound as bad as each other

WiddlinDiddlin · 28/07/2024 04:31

@Workaholic99 That would give me the boak and yeah, I'd still be able to feel where she'd kissed me hours later. Horrible.

As for the fucking competition over who qualifies as violated and who doesn't - fuck right off.

You all know damn well if this had been the FIL, BIL, any bloke, up to and including the OP's DH if the attention was unwanted, the term 'violated' would not be being debated here.

FixItUpChappie · 28/07/2024 04:21

You think it’s totally acceptable for people to undermine the OP and call her OTT. That her own feelings and experiences are invalid?

Yes.

Everyone should be able to be told they are wrong

newleafontheplantjohn · 28/07/2024 04:17

Sorry @honestyISkind, I have to agree with @Tartanic that you're not coming across well here.

Particularly parroting back that "yes your post is one of the nastiest I've seen...." when it really wasn't.

I think you lost any ground you had when you took that route in the argument.

I don't think there's really any need to equate the OP's situation to rape or domestic violence / abuse.

She is in a situation with an individual who she does not get on with. Spent an afternoon in her company and they barely spoke. This individual then did something very strange, inappropriate and sexual when the OP wasn't in a position to stop her.

As I said in a previous post, I would hope it was just a clumsy way of saying goodbye, a spur of the moment thing that the MIL instantly regretted. But it doesn't change that the OP felt very uncomfortable. I would too.

The fact that OP says it's the most violated she's ever felt in her life doesn't really mean she should count herself grateful she's never been raped, does it?

The dynamics and position of power that MIL may have, or tries to have, cannot be overlooked. If this was done by a MIL she was on good terms with, or a friend, I doubt the OP would be feeling like this.

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