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Violated by MIL

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Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:04

My MIL kissed the back of my neck.

Today i was hosting a birthday party for DD2 and had invited MIL because it's the right thing to do (not because I wanted her there).

When MIL arrived she completely ignored me - for the whole party barely more the 5 words were exchanged between us! (great, no complaints from me) however, as she was leaving I had my DD on my lap and so couldn't easily get up to say good bye, so she comes from my behind and plants a slobbery kiss on the back of my neck. There was nothing to stop her coming around to my front to say bye.

I was never felt more cringed or violated in my life. It doesn't help that I really detest the woman. My DH said he saw the whole exchange and thought it was very weird.

How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:49

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 28/07/2024 07:42

It sounds wierd and passive aggressive OP - I think she is expressing her anger through the physical interaction with you and that is why it bothers you. It doesn’t feel like just a kiss, it feels like its an aggression towards you because it is one.

I think she is angry with you but doesn’t know how to express and resolve situations like this - if she was a toddler then she would bite you, but as she is an adult she knows this is unacceptable so she expresses her anger by the sloppy kiss on the back of your neck (where you are unprotected and vulnerable).

People who do this can be acting out of a deep fear of losing control and they cannot manage this fear, it overwhelms them and they strike out against the person they hold responsible for causing the fear. She sounds like a very limited childlike person so maybe try to see her that way, see how she acts out of her fear - maybe you are “taking things away from her”- and remain the adult when you have to interact with her. It might be easier then to be less impacted by the wierd things she does.

This.

Pottedpalm · 28/07/2024 07:49

PeriIsKickingMyButt · 27/07/2024 22:20

Stop being twats please! OP is perfectly entitled to her feelings. Would you be minimising them if it had been FIL who kissed her fucking neck without consent? It's utterly gross and inappropriate. Your DH should be having a word with her.

Why her DH?? He’s not responsible for interactions. Don’t make him the go-between!

DotAndCarryOne2 · 28/07/2024 07:48

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 07:34

To even suggest that a full-term pregnant woman is incapable of thinking objectively about a person who was being malicious to them, due to “raging hormones” is ludicrous, and insulting.

A lot of MIL’s are seen as wrong on MN because their DIL’s post threads about their complete lack of boundaries and shitty behaviour. OP’s MIL sounds nuts.

People who have nice MIL’s aren’t going to post AIBU threads about them.

Why is it ludicrous and insulting ? From personal experience, myself and a number of other work colleagues were subjected to some dreadful behaviour from a manager during her late pregnancy. It was completely out of character for her - she was usually calm and approachable. When she returned from maternity leave the first thing she did was acknowledge and apologise for how unreasonable she’d been and she, herself said she could only put it down to her hormones at the time. Not saying that’s what happened with OP but that poster was only suggesting that hormones may have played a part. From OP’s reply that was obviously not the case, but let’s not pretend it doesn’t happen.

DoIWantTo · 28/07/2024 07:45

Have posters actively lost their fucking minds overnight or something? WTAF is going on here??

OP she is batshit, I’d refuse to ever be around her again tbh.

ClaraLaraBow · 28/07/2024 07:45

Pinkespressomachine · 28/07/2024 00:30

I think this is perhaps the best thing I’ve ever read on the internet!

He probably thought 'what a daaaarling'' and immediately applied middle class darling tax - 75% on top

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 28/07/2024 07:42

It sounds wierd and passive aggressive OP - I think she is expressing her anger through the physical interaction with you and that is why it bothers you. It doesn’t feel like just a kiss, it feels like its an aggression towards you because it is one.

I think she is angry with you but doesn’t know how to express and resolve situations like this - if she was a toddler then she would bite you, but as she is an adult she knows this is unacceptable so she expresses her anger by the sloppy kiss on the back of your neck (where you are unprotected and vulnerable).

People who do this can be acting out of a deep fear of losing control and they cannot manage this fear, it overwhelms them and they strike out against the person they hold responsible for causing the fear. She sounds like a very limited childlike person so maybe try to see her that way, see how she acts out of her fear - maybe you are “taking things away from her”- and remain the adult when you have to interact with her. It might be easier then to be less impacted by the wierd things she does.

foodforclouds · 28/07/2024 07:37

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/07/2024 22:26

She's entitled to her feelings and frankly I would have been repulsed. But she must be aware that word has connotations and there will be women who have experienced much worse who will have feelings about that.

Both can be true at the same time.

well put

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 07:34

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:24

What ? I’m not saying she can’t dislike her if there’s reason to. I was simply wondering whether, without the raging hormones, things may look different and that talking it out and sorting it may be preferable to the alternative. Clearly, from OP’s recent replies that’s not possible. Sorry, l forgot, this is MN. MILs are always wrong and open hostility is always preferable to mature discussion and resolution.

To even suggest that a full-term pregnant woman is incapable of thinking objectively about a person who was being malicious to them, due to “raging hormones” is ludicrous, and insulting.

A lot of MIL’s are seen as wrong on MN because their DIL’s post threads about their complete lack of boundaries and shitty behaviour. OP’s MIL sounds nuts.

People who have nice MIL’s aren’t going to post AIBU threads about them.

InterIgnis · 28/07/2024 07:34

DotAndCarryOne2 · 28/07/2024 07:29

No, this thread is yet another MN example of the intolerance of those who have a different viewpoint from ourselves. As you’ve just clearly demonstrated.

🎻🎻🎻🎻

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:33

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:18

MIL is in her 50s and no other events to suggest she's losing her marbles prior or since then.

Ah, OK. I just find it weird that she avoided you and didn’t attempt to make conversation at all during the party, and yet actively came to say goodbye and wanted to kiss you.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 28/07/2024 07:29

InterIgnis · 28/07/2024 07:24

This thread is batshit. Do some of you get paid to gatekeep, or is it a passion protect you commit to on a voluntary basis?

OP, YANBU. What she did was fucking weird, and it’s not at all surprising that you’ve taken issue with it.

No, this thread is yet another MN example of the intolerance of those who have a different viewpoint from ourselves. As you’ve just clearly demonstrated.

InterIgnis · 28/07/2024 07:24

This thread is batshit. Do some of you get paid to gatekeep, or is it a passion protect you commit to on a voluntary basis?

OP, YANBU. What she did was fucking weird, and it’s not at all surprising that you’ve taken issue with it.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:24

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 07:14

Wooooow this thread 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

OP told she is OTT for feeling violated by an unsolicited kiss on her neck from a woman she doesn’t like.

OP told she can’t possibly dislike said woman who was malicious to her as she probably had raging hormones and couldn’t think clearly.

WHAT THE FUCK.

What ? I’m not saying she can’t dislike her if there’s reason to. I was simply wondering whether, without the raging hormones, things may look different and that talking it out and sorting it may be preferable to the alternative. Clearly, from OP’s recent replies that’s not possible. Sorry, l forgot, this is MN. MILs are always wrong and open hostility is always preferable to mature discussion and resolution.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:18

MIL is in her 50s and no other events to suggest she's losing her marbles prior or since then.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:16

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:10

There is indeed a backstory, I possibly should have given more context before writing the post. At the risk of making myself look worse, yes I don't like the woman and she doesnt appear to like me (and that's fine), all this grief started when I was pregnant and she wanted to be in the birthing suite. I'd said no and since then I've have received so much vitriol from her including on my DD birthday last year when she sent my DD1 a pack of skewers for her birthday.

Edited

How old is she OP ? Are there any other odd, or out of character behaviours ? What was your relationship like before things took this turn ? Because if my MIL sent my DD a packet of skewers for her birthday, l wouldn’t be thinking strange, l’d be thinking the onset of dementia.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 07:14

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:10

How do you know she was spreading lies - was the source of the information reliable ? Late pregnancy would have been an awkward time for these issues to arise but surely you’ve had time to reflect, and without the raging hormones you may now be able to see things more objectively. The mature thing to do would be to bring it up with her, hear her side of things, and try to sort it out. The alternative will be a lifetime of avoidance and hostility which will affect your DH and your childrens’ relationships with her.

Edited

Wooooow this thread 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

OP told she is OTT for feeling violated by an unsolicited kiss on her neck from a woman she doesn’t like.

OP told she can’t possibly dislike said woman who was malicious to her as she probably had raging hormones and couldn’t think clearly.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:12

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:10

How do you know she was spreading lies - was the source of the information reliable ? Late pregnancy would have been an awkward time for these issues to arise but surely you’ve had time to reflect, and without the raging hormones you may now be able to see things more objectively. The mature thing to do would be to bring it up with her, hear her side of things, and try to sort it out. The alternative will be a lifetime of avoidance and hostility which will affect your DH and your childrens’ relationships with her.

Edited

Because it came to a head in a screaming match between my DH and his Sister that MIL was also crying because she wasn't getting her own way.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 07:10

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 06:43

For those saying I'm not very nice myself, I understand why it may look like that. But for context she made my cry whilst 9 months pregnant because she started spreading malicious lies about me at a wedding after I said she couldn't watch me give birth. Since then i have done everything possible to avoid her. x

How do you know she was spreading lies - was the source of the information reliable ? Late pregnancy would have been an awkward time for these issues to arise but surely you’ve had time to reflect, and without the raging hormones you may now be able to see things more objectively. The mature thing to do would be to bring it up with her, hear her side of things, and try to sort it out. The alternative will be a lifetime of avoidance and hostility which will affect your DH and your childrens’ relationships with her.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:10

pam290358 · 28/07/2024 07:00

I get the impression that confrontation is exactly what OP is looking for. There’s a backstory here because it’s clear OP doesn’t like her MIL. If OP shows her the same open hostility on display here it’s no wonder MIL is awkward around her and doesn’t make conversation.

There is indeed a backstory, I possibly should have given more context before writing the post. At the risk of making myself look worse, yes I don't like the woman and she doesnt appear to like me (and that's fine), all this grief started when I was pregnant and she wanted to be in the birthing suite. I'd said no and since then I've have received so much vitriol from her including on my DD birthday last year when she sent my DD1 a pack of skewers for her birthday.

OP posts:
slantedroof · 28/07/2024 07:07

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 06:43

For those saying I'm not very nice myself, I understand why it may look like that. But for context she made my cry whilst 9 months pregnant because she started spreading malicious lies about me at a wedding after I said she couldn't watch me give birth. Since then i have done everything possible to avoid her. x

She sounds absolutely deranged. I thought at first it was maybe clumsy goodby too, but she clearly has no sense of boundaries and a weird sense of ownership and entitlement towards you.

I’d try to keep away from her too OP. In fact, I just would keep away from her.

AnnaL94 · 28/07/2024 07:03

pam290358 · 28/07/2024 07:00

I get the impression that confrontation is exactly what OP is looking for. There’s a backstory here because it’s clear OP doesn’t like her MIL. If OP shows her the same open hostility on display here it’s no wonder MIL is awkward around her and doesn’t make conversation.

OP has said that her MIL had made her cry whilst she was 9 months pregnant, and spread rumours because she wasn’t allowed to watch her give birth.

I’d be hostile to a nut job like that.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 07:01

Wingedharpy · 28/07/2024 00:26

I once kissed my plumber as I was seeing him out after he'd been working at my home for the day - and he was due to come back the following day too.
To this day, I have no idea why I did it.
I can only assume I was elsewhere in my head.

Could this have been similar to your MIL?

Your comment made me smile. 😂

OP posts:
pam290358 · 28/07/2024 07:00

Fraa · 28/07/2024 06:55

Well it's a bit repulsive, but I really doubt it will happen again. She was saying goodbye, you were in an awkward position so she just clumsily planted a kiss on the bit of you that was available.

I don't think there is any need for confrontation etc. In the unlikely event it ever does happen again, ask her not to do it.

I get the impression that confrontation is exactly what OP is looking for. There’s a backstory here because it’s clear OP doesn’t like her MIL. If OP shows her the same open hostility on display here it’s no wonder MIL is awkward around her and doesn’t make conversation.

Fraa · 28/07/2024 06:55

Well it's a bit repulsive, but I really doubt it will happen again. She was saying goodbye, you were in an awkward position so she just clumsily planted a kiss on the bit of you that was available.

I don't think there is any need for confrontation etc. In the unlikely event it ever does happen again, ask her not to do it.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/07/2024 06:54

OP you made perfectly clear from the start that you don’t like your MIL. You seem very hostile towards her and l think there’s a backstory that’s colouring your judgement. You haven’t been violated by her, she just did something unexpected and which you didn’t like. You even explained to a certain extent why she did it - you had DD on your lap and couldn’t easily get up. She probably did the easiest thing to enable her to leave quickly and didn’t give it a second thought. Neither should you.

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