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Violated by MIL

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Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:04

My MIL kissed the back of my neck.

Today i was hosting a birthday party for DD2 and had invited MIL because it's the right thing to do (not because I wanted her there).

When MIL arrived she completely ignored me - for the whole party barely more the 5 words were exchanged between us! (great, no complaints from me) however, as she was leaving I had my DD on my lap and so couldn't easily get up to say good bye, so she comes from my behind and plants a slobbery kiss on the back of my neck. There was nothing to stop her coming around to my front to say bye.

I was never felt more cringed or violated in my life. It doesn't help that I really detest the woman. My DH said he saw the whole exchange and thought it was very weird.

How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 29/07/2024 09:54

TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/07/2024 09:25

Don't be childish. You must have known she was making moves to leave? I doubt she announced it then suddenly kissed your neck literally one second later? Your child is 2. You haven't just given birth. You can manage to leave your chair.

She came to see your DD for her birthday. It was rude of you to not get up and see her to the door as I'm sure you would have done with the guests you actually like and wanted there. Stop being in denial about your own behaviour here, which sounds no better than hers. Even if you don't like her much, she's your child's grandmother and your husband's mother. Try for their sake to plaster on a smile and be civil towards her. At least acknowledge her when she's leaving. Then she wouldn't need to lunge at the back of your neck.

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This. You reap what you sow.

With every post OP is revealing open hostility to her MIL and wringing every last drop out of their original spat. It’s now a long running feud and will compromise her DH’s and eventually her DC’s relationships with MIL.

I think OP displays an appalling lack of maturity in putting this above the well being of the rest of her family. Not to mention her interpretation of the womans’ current behaviour towards her. If l was regarded in as rude and hostile manner as OP seems to regard MIL, l’d be quiet and melt into the background at family gatherings too, and l wouldn’t be up for much in the way of direct conversation.

MIL came to say goodbye. She was met with the OP’s back and the usual hostility - she could easily have put the child down and given her full attention. The fact that she didn’t speaks volumes - the ‘why should l’ approach, followed by the ridiculous notion that MIL somehow violated her by kissing the only bit that OP showed her - her back. How hard would it be for the OP to recognise that MIL may be trying to mend fences, and at least meet her half way. The alternative is a very difficult way forward with a woman who, like it or not, is part of her family and will have a role in her children’s’ lives.

5128gap · 29/07/2024 09:38

If you believe your MiL capable of using a kiss as a form of assault upon you, regardless of whether youre correct or not, your relationship is entirely broken.You and your H need to have a conversation where this is acknowledged and a plan in place for his contact with his mother that doesn't involve you. There is no reason he should not continue a separate relationship with her without you coming into contact with her, and he'd be strongly advised to do so. Accusations that his mother 'violated' his wife are not something to be brushed off, for either woman's sake.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/07/2024 09:25

Workaholic99 · 29/07/2024 06:40

Next time I'll drop my DD on the floor to bend over backwards and stand up for my MIL

Don't be childish. You must have known she was making moves to leave? I doubt she announced it then suddenly kissed your neck literally one second later? Your child is 2. You haven't just given birth. You can manage to leave your chair.

She came to see your DD for her birthday. It was rude of you to not get up and see her to the door as I'm sure you would have done with the guests you actually like and wanted there. Stop being in denial about your own behaviour here, which sounds no better than hers. Even if you don't like her much, she's your child's grandmother and your husband's mother. Try for their sake to plaster on a smile and be civil towards her. At least acknowledge her when she's leaving. Then she wouldn't need to lunge at the back of your neck.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/07/2024 09:19

Tourmalines · 29/07/2024 07:10

It’s not hard to put any child at any age on the floor while you get up off a chair

Ys, I think perhaps the MIL was making a definite point that the OP was being rude by not getting up to say goodbye and not even turning to face her.

The OP says the MIL ignored her when she arrived, but that goes both ways. The MIL could arguably say that the OP ignored her. I think by kissing her on the back of the neck the MIL is sending a slightly passive aggressive message of 'well at least I'm making an effort to be friendly and warm towards you, even if all I get is the back of your head as you know I'm leaving.'

Tourmalines · 29/07/2024 07:10

Workaholic99 · 29/07/2024 06:40

Next time I'll drop my DD on the floor to bend over backwards and stand up for my MIL

It’s not hard to put any child at any age on the floor while you get up off a chair

Workaholic99 · 29/07/2024 06:40

Tourmalines · 28/07/2024 23:54

Then op should have got off her butt , and had the manners to get and and say goodbye . She was not going to get up . Rude as fuck .

Next time I'll drop my DD on the floor to bend over backwards and stand up for my MIL

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3tumsnot1 · 29/07/2024 04:31

Could MIL be sick? Perhaps she’s got some underlying health issue and in the moment was confused. Did she have intent of touching you oddly? Even if this happened to me, my mind would not go there. Just sounds like a last minute misjudgement. Can’t you give her the benefit of doubt? Probably as others have said she was probably aiming for the baby- in her mind.

Jollylollylee · 29/07/2024 04:16

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:45

Other than the initial incident where he said it was weird, I haven't raised with him as I don't want it to look like I'm always complaining about his mother.

He did say later today though that he needs to travel home back to visit his ill grandfather and as its the same town as his mother lives in he said I and DD should stay home.

Well considering the wider context of your MiL and how she’s behaved towards you in the past, I think you need to communicate next time - if not this time - in clear terms how you feel about her and he does need to take action to protect you from her.

He’s a married man and father, it’s not good enough for him to say he can’t stand up to his mum.

I’d definitely reduce contact if things continue as they have been without him saying anything.

Tourmalines · 28/07/2024 23:54

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 28/07/2024 23:03

If you aren’t friendly enough to approach someone from the front, you certainly don’t kiss them from behind.

Then op should have got off her butt , and had the manners to get and and say goodbye . She was not going to get up . Rude as fuck .

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 23:08

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 23:05

Look it up for yourself.

I have looked through all of my previous posts.

And I still can’t find any where I have said “posters are trying to silence the OP”. So…. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 23:05

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:07

Please directly quote the post where I said that.

Look it up for yourself.

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 28/07/2024 23:03

Cantrushart · 27/07/2024 22:27

It sounds as though she would have encountered too many prickles if she'd approached from the front. Same reason she avoided talking to you.

If you aren’t friendly enough to approach someone from the front, you certainly don’t kiss them from behind.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 23:00

@Workaholic99 You’re welcome😊& I hope
you’re okay. A lot of threads on AIBU turn hostile sadly, I think a lot of users just enjoy telling any thread starter that they’re OTT, dramatic, hormonal, etc etc. They get a kick out of being deliberately unhelpful and unkind to people who just want advice.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 22:19

@HolyPeaches I appreciate your support - I never meant to create such a hostile page, when I originally posted I was still feeling quite repulsed. Thank you for defending me x

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HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:07

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 22:03

You did.

Please directly quote the post where I said that.

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 22:03

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:00

I didn’t say anyone was trying to silence the OP.

I was responding to a comment who was saying I was trying to silence another poster - by telling them they shouldn’t minimise the OP’s experience by calling her OTT. If she felt violated by her MIL she has every right to say she felt that way. Her feelings are 100% valid.

A lot of posters on here are not sympathetic or helpful. At all. You only need to read the first couple of replies.

You did.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:00

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:48

That's utter rubbish. It was the hyperbole in the OP that attracted the responses it got. I think we can all agree that the MIL's action was repulsive, gross, unacceptable, unnerving, whatever, and the post would have garnered a very different response had it been couched differently.

Literally no-one is trying to silence her and the majority of posters are sympathetic to her discomfiture, but let's call a spade a spade!

I didn’t say anyone was trying to silence the OP.

I was responding to a comment who was saying I was trying to silence another poster - by telling them they shouldn’t minimise the OP’s experience by calling her OTT. If she felt violated by her MIL she has every right to say she felt that way. Her feelings are 100% valid.

A lot of posters on here are not sympathetic or helpful. At all. You only need to read the first couple of replies.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 21:55

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:35

Literally nobody said "poor MIL". Stop projecting!

Lol. Yes they did. Try reading the thread again before you quote me.

“combinationpadlock · Yesterday 22:37
O good grief, poor MIL, just gave her DIL a kiss on the way out! A non-lip kiss between two women is a completely normal non event, even if you don't like it.”

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 21:37

@Workaholic99 I think your DH has to confront his mother and ask her what she was playing at. She needs to understand that her relationship with all of you and especially her granddaughter is at stake. There's no question it was a bizarre thing to do, especially as you don't have a good relationship.

If she persistently crosses boundaries, then there is no way to deal with it other than go LC. It sounds as if you would prefer that anyway, and that is fine.

OriginalUsername2 · 28/07/2024 21:29

OP never said she felt sexually violated. She said she felt violated.

Language matters. Stop gatekeeping.

Ivymom · 28/07/2024 21:06

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:26

My DH will willingly cut his family off to protect me and our DD but confront his mother face to face... he doesn't have that confidence to take her on.

Then you and DD shouldn’t see MIL until your DH is able to confront her. I don’t mean only about this. He needs to be able to protect you both in the moment. The future relationship is on him. He can read books, listen to podcasts, get therapy, etc… to learn how to stand up for you to MIL if he wants you and any children to have a relationship with her. If he chooses not to do that, he visits alone. If the situation arises again that you are in MIL’s company, he needs to accept that you will stand up for yourself and you won’t try to preserve the relationship while doing it.

PixieLaLar · 28/07/2024 21:05

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/07/2024 20:42

You what...? You are using the word "violated" and it doesn't mean what you think not means.

Which is kind of offensive to those of us who have actually been violated.

Please do grow the hell up.

How rude. I would feel violated if someone I didn’t even like came up behind me and kissed me on the neck too!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:57

Respectisnotoptional · 28/07/2024 08:10

Here we go again total overreaction to a mother in law, what a ridiculous post ‘violated’ what is the matter with the women on here!
Every single thing has to be analysed and complained about, stop whinging!

I don't think the OP is "whinging" actually! Would you accept this from your MIL?!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:55

Trinity65 · 28/07/2024 08:02

Oh do Get a Life!!
Pathetic

That's an overreaction. The OP was perfectly entitled to feel grossed out and repulsed!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:48

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 03:42

Ah I see it.

You think it’s totally acceptable for people to undermine the OP and call her OTT. That her own feelings and experiences are invalid?

She should just be a good woman shouldn’t she? Just sit back, put up and shut up, take the “opinions” on the chin?

But any comments that challenge these unkind and unhelpful comments are trying to “silence” and shouldn’t be shared?

Yeah, I’m glad to end our discussion here too. Goodnight.

That's utter rubbish. It was the hyperbole in the OP that attracted the responses it got. I think we can all agree that the MIL's action was repulsive, gross, unacceptable, unnerving, whatever, and the post would have garnered a very different response had it been couched differently.

Literally no-one is trying to silence her and the majority of posters are sympathetic to her discomfiture, but let's call a spade a spade!

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