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To ask GP for diazapam

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MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 15:01

For flying. I haven't been on an aeroplane in years. I have asked the GP for acouple for flying there, and back. The GP rang me up, gave me a huge condescending lecture on addiction, and made me feel like a cross between a naughty school girl, and a drug addict. I have been directed to website links. I go on holiday in a fortnight's time!

I have said there isn't meditation, or anything that can help. It is like when people go to the dentist and they're just scared. I'm not on other drugs, and haven't asked for anything before. I know they're addictive, but I'm not sure 2 or 3 tablets will cause me to have a drug problem. If I'm honest I doubt they'll take the edge off. I took more than this years ago for a car accident, and forgot about them, and found them in the back of the cupboard, I don't have an addictive personality. What are they even for, if they won't give them out at all?

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Spacecowboys · 27/07/2024 18:06

Your gp sounds like he could have handled it better. A gentle explanation as to why this is no longer good practice would have been better, not a ‘telling off’. I wouldn’t risk my registration by going against recommendations- it is more important to me than a patient believing I am over cautious. I m also certain that ‘the patient insisted’ would not be a defence if I had to explain ANY decision I made. It sounds like some gps also feel this way, although there are clearly others who are still prepared to prescribe diazepam for flying ( going by this thread) . I think rather than contacting a gp practice to request benzodiazepines specifically, it would have been better to request a consultation to talk through options.

Moglet4 · 27/07/2024 18:06

StormingNorman · 27/07/2024 15:05

I had diazepam recently for muscle spasms that wouldn’t settle. The doctor gave me three days worth. When I had them for the same thing a couple of years ago, I was given a month’s supply. I think there’s been a massive crackdown on prescribing it.

It’s never been a good look to outright ask for it though. That’s generally a red flag.

I am given it for my back but my GP knows how severe my back problems are and also how sparingly I use it. However, the last time I did need some it was a locum doctor and she refused. I was pretty furious considering she clearly hadn’t read my notes. That said, it was quickly cleared up and I got what I needed.

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 18:04

TheDarkPinesOfYourMind · 27/07/2024 17:49

I'm with you, OP. Our lovely GP who we had for years gave me a prescription for my anxiety. I never abused it. A box of 20 (or however many it was) 2mg tablets would last me for up to six weeks, but it was so helpful in taking the edge off on days when I was really struggling. Then we moved to Scotland and our new GP recoiled in horror at the very idea. Put me on, you guessed it, propranolol. Which works to an extent, but it's nowhere near as effective, and now I'm largely back to struggling.

It's ludicrous that you were made to feel like an addict for requesting TWO 2mg tablets. Go private!!

Thank you @TheDarkPinesOfYourMind I am so sorry you have had that experience in Scotland. I think it is confusing, when it seems very much under the discretion of the GP you talk to, on the given day. Propranolol as I believe controls the physical effects of anxiety, which helps your mind follow suit (something along those lines). I have low healthy blood pressure, and it plummeted, and made me ill. Another GP at the time took me straight off it, and said i should not have been prescribed it. They honestly just all say different things ime.
Diazapam didn't have this effect on me. I agree, it may work for speeches, musicians etc, but for a lot of people it doesn't work enough.
It's horrible they have left you struggling, I know i asked for only 2, and was made to feel like a drug addict.

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TheDarkPinesOfYourMind · 27/07/2024 17:49

I'm with you, OP. Our lovely GP who we had for years gave me a prescription for my anxiety. I never abused it. A box of 20 (or however many it was) 2mg tablets would last me for up to six weeks, but it was so helpful in taking the edge off on days when I was really struggling. Then we moved to Scotland and our new GP recoiled in horror at the very idea. Put me on, you guessed it, propranolol. Which works to an extent, but it's nowhere near as effective, and now I'm largely back to struggling.

It's ludicrous that you were made to feel like an addict for requesting TWO 2mg tablets. Go private!!

UndertheCedartree · 27/07/2024 17:47

I take lorazapam when I need it for anxiety (not for flying) and although I know they are addictive, I've not found taking them as I do a problem. I used to probably have 1 or 2 every day but now more like one a week at most. I think the problem is different people react to them differently.

I find other medication I take more addictive than lorazapam to be honest.

Drizzlethru · 27/07/2024 17:43

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 15:40

Yes I made a comment further up, I took it years ago after a car accident, 5mg infact, I was fully functional, absolutely fine. Back then they prescribed larger quantities. I took what I needed, then I forgot about it, and found it out of date years later, it wasn't addictive in the slightest for me personally.
It is only propranolol that didn't agree with me, not anything else.

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Sorry I missed that you have had it before, safely. That should make it easy to get privately at least.

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 17:32

MolkosTeenageAngst · 27/07/2024 17:28

I’m scared of flying, used to take diazepam but now I’m no longer able to get a prescription I don’t book holidays that require flying. It’s a simple enough solution! If I did want to start holidaying in places that require a flight again I would look into getting therapy to tackle the fear first. Why on earth did you book a holiday which involved flying when you have a known fear of flying? You should have booked something that didn’t require a flight!

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I honestly didn't know, I used to fly all of the time when I was younger. Then I had my dcs, we thought it will be lovely to take them away for the first time. Dh, and I haven't been abroad in over a decade. Suddenly as it is getting closer, I feel increasingly scared. I wonder if it is to do with getting older, and my dcs, and epilepsy. Maybe just all 3 factors. I have tried meditation, mindful techniques and they haven't worked, and it is in a couple of weeks time now. I want my dcs to experience other cultures, and not pick up on anything, so I have hidden it. I feel so sorry that you're being held back from travelling abroad, when there is something out there that would help you potentially.

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MolkosTeenageAngst · 27/07/2024 17:28

I’m scared of flying, used to take diazepam but now I’m no longer able to get a prescription I don’t book holidays that require flying. It’s a simple enough solution! If I did want to start holidaying in places that require a flight again I would look into getting therapy to tackle the fear first. Why on earth did you book a holiday which involved flying when you have a known fear of flying? You should have booked something that didn’t require a flight!

Megifer · 27/07/2024 17:18

Hypnotherapy did absolutely nothing for me.

PotNoodleNancy · 27/07/2024 17:12

A good hypnotist will cure your fear of flying in one session, a mediocre one might cure it in 2 or 3 sessions if you’re lucky, but I wouldn’t bother trying them.

ExtraOnions · 27/07/2024 17:08

I have done .. Hypnotherapy, Fear of Flying Course, the “easy way” to get over your fear of flying, breathing exercises, CBT … Nothing works.

Maybe my GP thinks a Panic Attack at take-off is better for my health ..

5431go · 27/07/2024 17:06

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 15:11

Thank you, but won't this just make people turn to alcohol instead, or other prescription meds that have an equally sedating side effect?

I mean they might turn to alcohol, but given the Dr didn’t prescribe it the onus is on the individual who is drinking the alcohol!
Medicine is practiced defensively nowadays for fear of complaints and litigation due to a heavy handed regulator.

serialcatbuyer · 27/07/2024 17:05

You can get a private prescription for £70

crackfoxy · 27/07/2024 16:54

DiscombobulatedmarkII · 27/07/2024 15:24

We as a practice and all the practices in the PCN no longer prescribe it for flying. I never prescribe is for flying, The above information I posted is from the BMA, it’s a leaflet we have give out to all patients requesting it. It now frowned upon to prescribe for flying. If something should happen to the patient taking it - the prescriber would not have a legal leg to stand on, I will not risk my registration For this.

Ditto!! Lots of this on the internet if you google it. I wouldn't prescribe it now for flying either

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 16:51

Serencwtch · 27/07/2024 16:45

You could discuss this with your GP and see what services are available eg CBT, alternative medications such as anti depressants or anti - psychotics

Am rather confused why you think diazepam should be banned just because you didn't get the pills when you demanded them. I'm just trying to explain to you that there are some serious disorders eg schizo-affective where those medications are essential rather than for plane trips.

I think it should be banned? No I don't, I just wondered what they prescribe it for, as apparently there is always an alternative.
I don't need an antipsycotic, or antidepressant, when i dont suffer from what they treat. What appalling advice. I am sorry you have your condition, but it doesn't give you ticket to be so patronising to people who suffer from other conditions.

And for the record I didn't "demand them." Try to work on being curious rather than judgemental. I won't patronise you by listing unhelpful OTT alternatives, so kindly do not do the same to me.

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changedusernameforthis1 · 27/07/2024 16:50

I'm sorry OP, that's shit. I've used them for dentist visits before and I've always been made to feel awful for asking.
Weirdly, my Mum used to get them regular as if she was asking for sweets and I never did find out why.

I'd ask to speak to another GP if you can and stress how much the last GP upset you and how much you struggle with your fear.

Serencwtch · 27/07/2024 16:45

MUCHtodoAboutSomething · 27/07/2024 16:35

Oh really, which better way do you suggest, that would stop a genuine life long fear, that could put me at risk of a break through seizure? I'm pleased you think it isn't serious, as it does tend to worry me quite a bit, hence my GP appt. I wouldn't be so condescending to you.

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You could discuss this with your GP and see what services are available eg CBT, alternative medications such as anti depressants or anti - psychotics

Am rather confused why you think diazepam should be banned just because you didn't get the pills when you demanded them. I'm just trying to explain to you that there are some serious disorders eg schizo-affective where those medications are essential rather than for plane trips.

FortunataTagnips · 27/07/2024 16:45

If you can afford it, definitely try a private GP. I see one for menopause issues and haven’t been sleeping well because of anxiety - she was adamant that i should have a stash of diazepam “just in case”, plus some melatonin. I left the surgery clutching a prescription for 28 of the little beauties…

LiveAtThe · 27/07/2024 16:44

The NHS is very punitive to clinicians who step outside guidelines. The GMC can suspend almost on a whim. The ability to be creative and tailor treatments to individuals is slowly reducing. Yes I am in favour of evidence-based medicine. But I think it’s going the other way now, where doctors cannot use their expertise, experience and common sense to make clinical decisions based on the patient they see in front of them. I am not convinced patients are better off for this. It’s also defensive medicine.

Doctors should not be patronising. But they need to be upfront about guidelines and explain why their hands are tied.

Dontsayyouloveme · 27/07/2024 16:41

Technonan · 27/07/2024 16:37

My GP gave me diazepam for flight nerves. No reason not to.

Plenty of reasons not too… they’ve probably gone against prescribing advice if they’ve given you some for flying!

Differentstarts · 27/07/2024 16:41

Yanbu and I'm talking as someone who had a benzo addiction that started from prescribed diazepam. 2/3 tablets will not cause an addiction and your gp is being dramatic and actually sounds ridiculous

Dontsayyouloveme · 27/07/2024 16:39

NRFT but a gp won’t give you diazepam for flying. You’d have to go private..

Blackcats7 · 27/07/2024 16:37

My gp happily gave me temazepam years ago for a one off dental issue which really helped and has given me diazepam more recently for pet scans.
However I found for extreme anxiety I feel in scans the diazepam did nothing for me. 10mg might as well be a smartie.
I was swapped to ct scans instead which I can just about tolerate.

Technonan · 27/07/2024 16:37

My GP gave me diazepam for flight nerves. No reason not to.

rumblegrumble · 27/07/2024 16:35

Yeah, they're very protective of the valium these days! I take them for MRI scans and have done for about a decade. And yet every single time I have to have an appointment to check I'm not actually an addict trying to score. Presumably they suspect that I am sneakily persuading my neurologist to book me an MRI every year or so just so I can get my druggy mitts on two 5mg diazepam. Which will then tide me over for the next year or so. They're definitely on to me - and they're most certainly not going to tricked into enabling my torrid habit, no siree!

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