Would this be too much for your young kids ?

They are very young for that. Would need to be a loooooong nap for the little one, and I wouldn't be wanting the 4 yo to need a nap so personally I'd say yes too much. Maybe let the little one nap at the beach in a pop up tent or something so you 3 can all stay out having fun, but bring the bedtime to a more normal time.

Heats a factor too. I don't know your circumstances, but it was common to holiday in England when I was young, this year everyone's in Turkey! Massive climate difference.

Definitely too much

it seems quite full on yeh. My 4 year old son would not sit still for an hour meal and also has meltdowns daily so I don’t know how your mum expects kids that age to not have them especially if busy like that

Sounds very similar to our holidays when dc we're similar ages.

On 9hrs sleep every night I’d imagine that isn’t enough.
on holiday we were regularly out til gone midnight if not later but youngest would sleep at least 10hrs (and nap through the day too so total 12hrs I’d say!)
breakfast 10.30ish, pool/out, lunch 2.30/3 then pool/out and about, back by 6 for showers, dinner somewhere around 7.30/8 and then out. Whether that be beach, funfair, entertainment, bar whatever.
if he was particularly tired or any of us were we’d be back in the room by 4 to chill for a while.
This was when he was aged 3 & 4 and prior to holiday had dropped naps and slept 10hrs a night. The heat had him needing an extra 2hrs, never mind enjoying himself as much as he was!

Kids that age need 11-13 hours sleep. If they are napping for 2 hours through the day 9hrs at night might be ok but in the heat they often need to sleep more. I think you are keeping them up too late honestly. And I never subscribed to 7pm bedtimes but midnight for 2 year olds is asking for trouble.

There were probably no tears when you were little because back then they would have smacked you if you were ‘naughty’, which thankfully doesn’t happen now. The days you’ve described (minus the naps) would be fine for my kids now (12 and 10) but would have been too exhausting for them at 4 & 2. Not so much the travelling about and seeing family/ playing in the pool, but the lack of sleep! Mine slept for 12-13 hours at night at that age plus a 2 hour nap for the 2 year old. They still needed that sleep on holiday. They typically did 7pm-7am at home so when on hols we would stick to the same and not adjust them to the time difference (so for example in or South Africa we did 8pm-8am to allow time to have an early meal out) and in Crete we did 9pm-9am - although we did wake them early a few days there so we could get out to a beach or day trip at a reasonable time.

To be fair my boys didn’t tantrum or cry really on holiday BUT they were getting their normal amount of sleep, and they usually had both parents plus some grandparents or a uncle or aunt around to give them loads of attention, which was quite a novelty!

Sounds like my childhood holidays totally 😂, it’s part of what has made us all very adaptable individuals as we have grown older. My parents were very much the ‘sleep where you are’ type so they would think nothing of putting 2 chairs together in a bar on holiday for one of us to sleep on if necessary. I have hugely fond memories of our holidays.

I think that you need to reread it. I'm nearly 60, I'm sick if my generation and older going on about today's parents. We were smacked which is why we didn't carry on in public. Your child (and my two) would be being pushed into residential accommodation, in the 60/70's. I have three excellent adult children, I've been far from emotionally unavailable, despite being widowed. How the fuck did you gleen what you did from my post? My children and my GC would be fine because ADHD runs through us and we are all lucky if we sleep longer than six hours. I got nothing but judgement because I wasn't putting my DD to bed at 7, she went up at 11 and we were up again at 5. She excelled at her work because of the hours she could put in. She used her ADHD to her benefit.

Good for her 🤣🤣 my mum has a teacher look which quelled 15 years worth of naughty reception kids bit it was gran who kept me in line. There certainly wasn’t any holiday sabotage from me 🤣🤣

Lol my 2 year old DGS has a tantrum often on having to leave nursery while he's having fun

No my kids would not have coped with being up so late night after night at that age. I've just been in Spain and we didn't eat out that late (we had a disabled child with us who can only do so much). We ate at 7.30, early for the area, and headed home at 9, just when the places were getting busy. We then played games (Scrabble etc) and had some drinks at the villa, any kids who wanted to go to bed could go.
We went to Australia when they were just under two and four. We would get up and do an activity for half a day, have lunch, come back to the hotel and spend the afternoon in the pool, dinner at 6.30 (they do eat early there), then kids to bed by 8pm. My kids didn't really nap much at that age, maybe the odd hour after lunch. Yes it did restrict me and DH's evening activities but that's the sacrifice you make when you have little kids.

I don't think it is that busy at all. But I suspect there were more naps in there than your mum is remembering.

https://thesleepcharity.org.uk/

Mine never slept later on the mornings no matter what time they fell asleep so we had to make sure they got some decent sleep before waking at 6am

We ways had them in the buggy on holiday, usually watching evening show at the hotel/complex as the always passed out by 8pm (and got up at 6am sigh).

That's the great thing when they are little and if they sleep in a buggy they are pretty portable

Mine are fine with this stuff but they are kids that will literally sleep anywhere and through a lot of noise so it depends on your kids. For holiday purposes I would have a 2 and a 4 year old in pushchairs then they can rest and sleep as they please.

Those late bedtimes would be too late for me let alone my kids! Hard no from me! I'm a day time person though!

I don't think I could manage that if it was 3 days in the trot but you don't say it was.

If that was 3-4 days in between of chilling my ds would have managed it at that age - but he also wouldn't really have cried as he just wasn't that type of personality.

Stopped me acting up anywhere 😳

It's bonkers imo

Mine were / are terrible tantrummers. It's luck of the draw imo. I remember throwing tantrums myself in the 80s! Kids tantrum. Grandparents remember with Rose tinted glasses. Tbf to my Dad, he does concede he was at work most of the time!

Sounds fine for one offs and holidays.