To have allowed my dc watch the Olympic opening ceremony?

Male ballet dancers do sometimes perform on pointe, they do in a Midsummer Night's Dream. There is also an all-male ballet company called Les Ballets Trocadero de Monte Carlo and they wear pointe shoes.

using the word gyrating implies it was sexually focused or there was sexual intentions. It was neither. It was people having fun. I danced when I was a child and I would have loved that opportunity. There have been men dressing in drag for many years. You and everyone else on here are really just upsetting them selves by doing 2+2 and getting 6.

im not getting in to women’s rights etc as I am a strong believer in those. Yes I know there are some trans women who have bad intentions but these are v small numbers. There are many v nice people who identify as trans and are just like us.

i said a while ago, I’m not replying and I am going to stop replying as sadly there is nothing more I can say.

the sun is shining so I’m off out to have a lovely day . Wishing you all a lovely day

There were males dressed up in drag with a child among them, and they were gyrating around the child.

Difference is fine, but when you consider drag is womanface to many women, and at a time where men dressed as women are entering women and girls safe single sex spaces and facilities, as well as winning medals and taking sports scholarships away from girls, well, it doesn't take much thought and critical thinking to understand why people are reacting to drag queens. The push back by some women is reaching fever pitch. If it was any other difference, ie one not portrayed by an oppressor class, I don't think you'd see this reaction.

I'm really surprised that people are surprised about this, actually. Considering how volatile the mood is between womens rights activists and trans activists. Putting drag queens on gyrating around a child was never going to end well. What were they thinking? Obviously they didn't think at all, or were trying to deliberately stir the pot and deliberately upset feminists at a time there is so much conflict. Which in itself is irresponsible. Pouring petrol on the fire.

I mean on a fundamental level, nobody should take fairytales too seriously.

Should have dressed someone up as a pink Mohammed - sure that would have had the bbc falling over themselves to defend it too!!! I mean France is normally quite anti Islam - must be the new far left parties getting into power.

They can't do it for all religions or Paris would be on fire.

@Happyhoppy15 I still need to know where were the porno parts? 😂
I also need to know what would happen if a child saw a man with a beard in a dress? 😂 didn't The Greatest Showman have a bearded lady in it? Isn't that super loved by children!

And then with no irony, they bring in mocking the Catholic religion, which itself is insane, as the Catholic Church has high amounts of child SA within it!

Again, sorry for initially tagging you in my ranty post xxx

Absolutely agree with this message just in general life. I believe in god and I am religious to some extent but look at how many absolute morons take religion to the far extreme, disowning their children because they fall in love with someone who isn’t of the same religion, children being rejected because they are gay, whole wars being started. So as a Christian I am proud that the French made it about inclusivity. It’s a shame they didn’t feel they could do that for all religions.

Scottish heather I have given up with them. I cannot actually believe people are saying it was pornographic. I really worry about how some kids are being raised to not value and accept difference. I wonder how many of these people would accept kindness and acceptance if they were slightly different?

France has laws to prevent the influence of the catholic church on its institutions. Perhaps this is a nod to that - “we recognise religion but we don’t let it be taken too seriously” - a very good message.

Many people appear to have been offended about the perceived anti-Christian vibe.

It’s not the same thing though is it? You know the content of Love Island in advance, no one knew the content of this before watching.

Apparently the opening ceremony has been removed from the official YouTube account

If I don't like something I tend not to watch it or turn it off.

I find Love Island offensive on many levels - It's like a modern day Bethlem. But I accept people enjoy it so the solution is I don't watch it.

I admit to not watching the whole of the opening ceremony but from the posts on here it seems that it is split between the Francophiles who understand all the references to French culture and the rest of us who don't. Due to its nature it is unlikely any child will be scarred for life by any of it. The younger ones wont understand it, some will just find it really boring and older kids probably see much worse everyday on the internet.

When planning an event on this scale it is difficult to get a balance between celebrating the host country and making it relevant for the rest of the world. Due to its length and complexity it is inevitable that not everyone would enjoy or understand all of it. Like the Games there is something for everyone. Not everyone enjoys every sport.

With the eyes of the World on this it is unlikely that if anything truly bad was depicted it will go unpunished.

@Beefcurtains79 yes! Very dark film...., which was actually based on a kid's book!!! if you look for it you can find the darkness in everything and you've proved my point! Don't even get me started on The Goonies!!! Whole lot of irresponsible parenting going on there!

@SoreAndTired1 can you explain the intent? Were the French trying to sexualise every child in the world with the 'evil' drag queen agenda? Sorry if I missed that point in the opening ceremony! Is Celine Dion the ring leader in this master plan? I also think they were trying to push the agenda of chopping women's heads off too!

Oh ffs! A man dressing up as an old lady to see his kids, and a man dressing up as an over-sexualised extreme version of a woman to mock women are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS! Especially with the INTENT there. Next you're going to invoke Dame Edna Everage, right? Fuck sake! Give us strength! No. Just give over. Right now. 🙄

Mrs Doubtfire? A man who lies his way into his ex’s home, and spies on her getting changed?

Are you even old enough to watch that film? 😂

Sorry @Happyhoppy15 this post was for @Frogpole (bad tagging form) @Frogpole in answer to your statement towards me: well if you've been to France and really experienced the culture the this opening ceremony really wouldn't have bothered you! Nothing about the ceremony was pornographic, you just have a problem with drag queens! Did you ever watch Mrs Doubtfire as a kid? It's based on a children's book and the film is aimed at kids! There is a man who dresses up as an old lady to get to see his kids! I bet that blew your mind....!

@Happyhoppy15 well if you've been to France and really experienced the culture the this opening ceremony really wouldn't have bothered you! Nothing about the ceremony was pornographic, you just have a problem with drag queens! Did you ever watch Mrs Doubtfire as a kid? It's based on a children's book and the film is aimed at kids! There is a man who dresses up as an old lady to get to see his kids! I bet that blew your mind....!

I feel those that are screaming and stamping their feet about the opening ceremony are either right-wing folk from the US or apparent 'feminists' who seem to have a problem with drag queens! The irony that these two groups merge into one is insane!

Different countries have different cultures! Don't like it don't watch it! Each country doesn't have to play to your individual agenda!

“You didn't like it or understand it, and that's okay.”

One day we can only hope to be as open minded and cultured as you I guess 🤣