To have allowed my dc watch the Olympic opening ceremony?

Only just read about this today. I didn't watch the opening ceremony. Its a disgrace if they intentionally mocked Christianity. It's an easy target. Anyway they have apologised. Hmm.

Felt like a three hour long episode of Eurotrash, with boats.

Why shouldn’t Christianity be invoked in a ceremony taking place in a generally Christian country ? But reformulated to acknowledge how times have changed ? How is this mocking ? If people have such unshakeable faith in their magic fairies then no need to take offence, right ? Turn the other cheek is it ?

I thought all the catwalk performers were beautiful - some stunning looks and incredible dancing (especially the ballet dancer). Really talented people whom it was a privilege to watch

This is the one post from the central character.

Yes, I know they are the same god, it's why I said Roman version of him. However their mythology is somewhat different and Bacchus was the more extreme version. And a big party doesn't tend to look like a famous painting of a depiction of an important bible story.

As it had happened on Friday night, France tv tweeted that it was The Last Supper. And earlier today, in Iran, the foreign ministry has summoned the French ambassador to explain the insulting depiction of their Prophet Isa (Christian Jesus). The bearded drag queen on the right of the picture, red dress, blonde wig, called it a "biblical representation" in an interview with BFMTV. And the central figure in the halo said it was a "new gay testament" on an Instagram story.

There is absolutely no room for interpretation here. The depiction was clear to people all over the world, of all faiths and none. People won't be gaslit on this shit anymore.

[I couldn't post the picture of Donald Trump at a table surrounded by his minions.]

Is this mocking the Last Supper? How are people sitting at a table (or dancing beside a catwalk) supposed to look to avoid looking like the Last Supper?

They didn't apologise for mocking Christianity.

Dionysys and Bacchus are the same God. It was a Bachanalia. He's the god of partying, and the the father of the goddess of the Seine. How else is it supposed to look?

It fucking was mocking Christianity. They may have included Dionysus, but they represented him with attributes specific to the Roman version, Bacchus. While at the same time the supposed "Bacchanalia" was a clear mirror of Da Vinci's Last Supper. Only the wilfully ignorant or those lacking in knowledge of basic European art culture could deny it because it is clear as fucking day. And attempting to ridicule and gaslight those who see it (ie, almost everyone) will backfire enormously.

I can guarantee you that there are, for obvious example, people in the US who were on the fence about who to vote for that will tip to Trump because of this bullshit. This exact type of cultural shit led to fascism a century ago and if we don't cop the fuck on we'll go straight down the same road over the next couple of decades. (Not that I'm suggesting Trump is fascistic. But this shit will take us there if it doesn't stop.)

They said it was Dionysus during the event. His daughter is Sequana -the goddess of the Seine. Sequana is often depicted with a diadem or a crown. It wasn't mocking Christianity.

I fully agree that trans gender (if I have got the right term and I apologize if not) people should not compete in sports as their new sex. This is nothing to do with being anti-anything (which I am not), it is because a female who was born male has an unfair physical advantage. Whatever the most ardent feminist may say, pound for pound men are stronger than women and a sex change isn't going to change that. Particularly in a sport such as boxing it is likely that the sex-change athlete will have a longer reach and more powerful punch. Similarly in athletics men's times are faster than women's.

Instead of guidelines the IOC should have definite rules regarding anything of this sort. At the moment it is the decision of the individual sport's governing body.

Maybe there could be categories in the paralympics instead where people would compete against each other on a level playing field.

As for the child rapist there should be a limit on the amount of inclusiveness allowed in major (or minor) sporting events. Some people are given life bans for much less such as taking performance enhancing drugs where the only person affected is themselves. Cricketers have been given longer bans for ball-tampering than this man spent in prison for rape.

I have known intersex people who explicitly said they felt outside the sex binary.

That's not the same as the sex binary not existing. People can feel a lot of things.

*HE

It's a male with cock and balls.

Not a she.

It's obviously not a stretch at all, @JohnSt1 , since a massive, massive amount of people world-wide, even the majority, saw it as such. The intent was obvious. Saying it was Dionysus, now, seems to much like hasty post re-writing because of the flack they rightfully got. It's just an excuse. And so many when told "oh, the blue figure is really the Greek God Dionysus" are saying "bullshit!" on social media. They're not buying it. And even if - big massive if - it were, surely someone must have known how it would look?

Nah. I, like most on social media, don't buy this attempt and face-saving by the organisers.

She should be ashamed that she has children that defend womens basic fucking human rights, @TheRakesTale ?!?? No, misogynist narrow-minded bigots with hateful anti-women attitudes like yours, @TheRakesTale , are the ones who should be ashamed! What happened to you to make you hate women so much, and not even think we are human deserving of fairness and human rights?

It concerns me that your job has you dealing with child safeguarding, yet you are ever so deeply ill-informed on what intersex and DSD is.

there is biology outside a gender binary

Gender isn't real. It's a man-made misogynistic social construct that relies on stereotypes. Only sex is real. Sex is immutable and it's binary. And actually, even setting aside the physical external differences - with chormosomal abnormalities, intersex or as is more favourable a term now - DSD (Differences of Sexual Development), prove and reinforce the binary nature of sex, as this graph below on DSD chromosomal abnormalities by a Biologist shows.

I also worry for trans people and the rates of violence and suicide in their community.

Trans people (particularly transwomen) have far more power and privilege than everyone else, especially women and girls. Statistical evidence shows they are the safest group out, and have the lowest level of violence, and that there suicide rates - despite suicide being pushed very heavily as a weapon to get parents to trans their children, are no higher than any other group. Unfortunately though if one don't push past all the hyperbole about trans and actually look for facts and evidence, one wouldn't be aware of this, as Suicide Ideation is pushed very heavily.

Trans people aren’t trying to hurt you.

Some aren't, that's true. There are some good, decent, grounded trans people that are aware of the reality of their situation. However, too many of them or the activists, go around threatening women with rape, with wire-covered baseball bats, with being knived and bashed, even burned to death (a plot to burn down a building with women meeting inside for a Let Women Speak rally was exposed on twitter, with police then being tagged in). At no stage in history have women been more at risk of violence and abuse. Just for speaking out about our basic human rights and needs.

and pee in peace

If all they want is to pee in peace (which is what WOMEN AND GIRLS WANT, too), they can pee in peace in their sex-based facilities that match their sex. It really is that simple.

Don’t have the energy to argue all the finer points. Brought up the rapist because I think he deserves our attention and there was an implication the drag artists were being inappropriate as there was a child onstage.

I have known intersex people who explicitly said they felt outside the sex binary. I realise they don’t speak for all intersex people! But I’m trying to listen to people with lived experience.

People can have whatever opinions they want, but I’ve only tried to engage people positively on this thread and some posters are so filled with rage and bile. OP has been open to discussions. This whole thing has left me feeling pretty low, honestly. I can see how activists end up advocating for no platforming, which I think is largely counterproductive, out of sheer exhaustion. I have tried to “correct the internet” before, and that way madness lies.

Happy to say I have GC children who will never accept males moonlighting as females!
How proud you are of your narrow-minded view and how you have facilitated this across generations
You should be ashamed