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To ask if it’s bad to send your children to childcare when you’re not working?

204 replies

lilacfield · 26/07/2024 16:16

I probably know the answer but feel a bit guilty as both cried when I dropped them off. They go 3 days a week but I don’t work in school holidays.

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Salumthecat · 27/07/2024 14:10

I understand why you posted OP and that you were feeling guilty about your decision, I’ve read all your posts and you are starting to annoy me now…

You are a working mother with two kids and the usual everyday tasks that need doing, how often do you get time to yourself?

Being a mother is a hard enough job and with working as well you essentially spend the majority of your life having no time to unwind and relax. This is an opportunity for you to have a bit of extra time for yourself and you should not feel guilty for choosing to take advantage of that. Just because you are a mother doesn’t mean that you never get to put yourself first and look after your own well being and mental health, I think it makes you a better parent as you will be less tired and stressed, have more patience and enjoy your time with your kids more.
The fact you are even worrying about this shows you are a good mum, you aren’t going to scar your kids for life for having the extra time in childcare, if you had to work you wouldn’t be questioning it, your kids won’t even remember this in a few months!
You obviously trust nursery to look after them whilst you are working so they will be fine when you aren’t.

You are continuously justifying decisions you’ve made as a parent on this thread to people whose opinions don’t matter, I understand this is because you are feeling guilty but you know yourself you have no reason to. You will always get people who disagree when you ask for opinions, sometimes it’s helpful to get another perspective but in this case you are just focusing on the negative posts when you don’t need to. You are making a choice that suits you and if you take advice to the contrary you are just making your own life difficult.
If you were seeking validation then you have plenty of people who support your decision and are of a similar mindset. There is no right or wrong in this situation but you don’t know peoples agenda for posting comments here, they could be jealous that you have this opportunity, just want to argue for the sake of it or have just been conditioned to believe that being a good mother means never being apart from your children.
Have you asked people you are close to and know your situation for their opinion? It’s better to take advice from people who genuinely want to support you and who want the best for you rather then strangers on the internet.

There are a million and one reasons why mothers feel guilty and most of the time it’s unnecessary. If your kids are fed, loved, happy and healthy then you are doing great, however you also need to take care of yourself, you can’t pour from an empty cup. If you don’t take this time this summer I think you will regret it later when you don’t have a minute for yourself.

It’s not like you are going abroad and leaving your kids behind, you said you have household jobs that need doing as well, it’ll be much easier for you to crack on with those when your kids are at nursery, it’s better to get on top of it now rather then having to do it whilst juggling work and entertaining small people! If not it’s just hanging over you all summer.
Men get praised for doing the bare minimum as parents but women are made to feel guilty unless they dedicate their whole lives to their children.

I maybe have a different perspective because I’m childfree, I watch my friends who are parents beating themselves up unless they put their kids before them in every single situation, society has conditioned them to feel like they have to, they feel guilty for having any wants and needs that aren’t related to parenthood. Quite often their husbands and partners do whatever they want and don’t think twice about childcare, if they look after or “babysit” their own kids they act like they deserve a medal.

Enjoy the free time, get on top of your household jobs and spend the rest doing things that make you happy, it’s a few hours a week and your kids are in nursery not down a mine!

zzar45 · 27/07/2024 13:39

ll09sm · 27/07/2024 13:23

Fine as long as you pay for it yourself rather than expecting working people to pick up the tab.

Does working term time separate you from “working people”?

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/07/2024 13:39

FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 11:43

OP is planning on putting them both in nursery though - no 1-1 with either child.

I don’t know any teachers who did this. And I don’t know any parents who took multiple days of annual leave per week without their kids.

For all those who say breaks to get housework done and for maternal mental health are essential etc - what do you think non-teacher parents do? I work full
time and have no family support and DH and I use one day of annual leave per year to do our Xmas shopping and go for a nice lunch. The idea that we should need or expect multiple child free days per week is just completely unrealistic.

If I had the absolute luxury available to me to have paid time off that I could spend with my small children I would be grabbing it with both hands.

But OP is a teacher. She doesn’t need to make life harder for herself just because not every parent is a teacher.

ll09sm · 27/07/2024 13:23

Fine as long as you pay for it yourself rather than expecting working people to pick up the tab.

Bbq1 · 27/07/2024 13:22

I'm in the minority here but I think yabu sending a 1 year old and 3 year old to nursery where they aren't that happy and you're currently off all week. Don't you want to spend extra time with your children when you can? Most people who have the school holidays off appreciate being able to spend more time with their children. It's sad leaving a 12 month old crying and walking away when you're off work and just going home etc.

PurpleDiva22 · 27/07/2024 13:22

I'm a teacher. Have 1 child, expecting no. 2. I am using nursery during the summer. I feel guilty but also agree with the person who said you can't pour from an empty cup. You will be better able to be present with your children on the days you do have them when you have 2 / 3 days to yourself to get shitty household chores done, grocery shopping done, etc! Still plenty of time in the 4 / 5 days of the week to enjoy time together and make memories. You do you mam!

zzar45 · 27/07/2024 12:50

Let’s say it again for those at the back who obviously struggle to hear, it’s okay for mums to have a break!
Martyrdom isn’t better, women don’t need to be serving someone else all the time for their existence to be valid. They can have a few hours a week to themselves.

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:40

That wasn’t advice, it was an observation.

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Sunlime · 27/07/2024 12:39

Equally of course if you think the thread is pointless the ultimate pointless action is to continue posting on it.

Sounds like a good idea to take your own advice...

TurquoiseDress · 27/07/2024 12:23

No not at all

I did with both my children

Gave me a chance to catch up with life admin/paperwork, do some housework eg putting on washing machine/hanging it up/putting away and go round with the hoover

And also do some exercise/get down the gym

If there was the opportunity I would arrange to meet another friend eg for lunch

No issues, kids enjoyed/had fun no guilt about this (although my mum did try!) in summary no fucks given Grin

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:20

I’ve said at least three times now I posted in a bit of an absent minded mum feeling guilty sort of way. If anyone’s going to come out of childcare it will be my older one but the threads fixated on the little one and so I have ended up feeling I’ve had to defend my position on that.

Equally of course if you think the thread is pointless the ultimate pointless action is to continue posting on it.

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ParentsTrapped · 27/07/2024 12:19

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:00

I think because I’m not convinced they do enjoy it! 😬😬 I think they like it when they are there. I really hope so.

This is the heart of it really. You don’t actually think they do enjoy it, or you suspect they might not, but will send them anyway, even though you don’t have to.

FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 12:13

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:08

‘Enjoy it I guess’ wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive? Of course it was. I could almost hear the disdainful sniff from here.

I am sure I will enjoy both time with and without my children. Both help me to appreciate the other.

No, not disdainful, more like - what’s the point discussing anything when you’re totally set on what you’re doing - I hardly care enough to hope that you don’t enjoy it!

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:08

‘Enjoy it I guess’ wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive? Of course it was. I could almost hear the disdainful sniff from here.

I am sure I will enjoy both time with and without my children. Both help me to appreciate the other.

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FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 12:06

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:01

That is the most passive aggressive response @FolkSongSweet 😂

We’ve been through the justifications for the twelve month old endlessly. Three year old is having some days with just me.

Teachers do get a lot of holiday time: we’re famous for it. The package we have at the nursery doesn’t allow for a term time only deal so this is where we are.

I don’t mean it to be - you asked for opinions, you received opinions, you don’t care about opinions that disagree with you - that’s how this thread has gone.

It seems you’ve decided to do some 1-1 with the older one since you started the thread though - I’m sure he will love that.

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:01

That is the most passive aggressive response @FolkSongSweet 😂

We’ve been through the justifications for the twelve month old endlessly. Three year old is having some days with just me.

Teachers do get a lot of holiday time: we’re famous for it. The package we have at the nursery doesn’t allow for a term time only deal so this is where we are.

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lilacfield · 27/07/2024 12:00

I think because I’m not convinced they do enjoy it! 😬😬 I think they like it when they are there. I really hope so.

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FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 11:59

What words are brutal and distressing? I don’t think I said anything about your love for your children.

Sure, me time is nice. But 2-3 days a week for 6 weeks is really a lot of me time. In your position I wouldn’t do it and I don’t know anyone else who would either. But it seems you’re happy with your own choices so enjoy it I guess.

scoobiedew · 27/07/2024 11:57

If you can afford it and your children enjoy going, why would it be bad?

You still have PLENTY of hours to enjoy at home with your DC. No need to put yourself on a guilt trip

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 11:54

It isn’t weird at all @FolkSongSweet . It’s lovely. But also, a lot of people - and I am one of them - really do value and enjoy a bit of me time, precisely because it is so unusual to get it when you have such young children.

Insisting that they don’t and that others love their children more than I do because they take them out of nursery in the summer isn’t quite accurate or fair, in my experience anyway. Luckily I am secure in the love I have for my children but if I was struggling those words would be very brutal and potentially distressing.

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Createausername1970 · 27/07/2024 11:51

FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 11:43

OP is planning on putting them both in nursery though - no 1-1 with either child.

I don’t know any teachers who did this. And I don’t know any parents who took multiple days of annual leave per week without their kids.

For all those who say breaks to get housework done and for maternal mental health are essential etc - what do you think non-teacher parents do? I work full
time and have no family support and DH and I use one day of annual leave per year to do our Xmas shopping and go for a nice lunch. The idea that we should need or expect multiple child free days per week is just completely unrealistic.

If I had the absolute luxury available to me to have paid time off that I could spend with my small children I would be grabbing it with both hands.

OPs updates implied she was going to do 1-1 with the older boy.

I am sorry you are in the position you are, it must be very hard for you. But OP is in a different position and I was giving my opinion on her choices.

FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 11:51

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 11:46

I know a lot of teachers who do this. I think most who are on term time only contracts have done so because of money rather than because of an innate desperation to spend more time with their children.

”innate desperation” - wow.

Most parents do enjoy spending time with their children and treasure that time. My teacher friends and my sister in law look forward to it all year, especially because their working hours mean that they often can’t do drop off or pick up.

I would so love to have the chance to spend the summer with mine. I don’t mind if you consider that desperate or somehow weird.

lilacfield · 27/07/2024 11:46

I know a lot of teachers who do this. I think most who are on term time only contracts have done so because of money rather than because of an innate desperation to spend more time with their children.

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FolkSongSweet · 27/07/2024 11:43

Createausername1970 · 27/07/2024 11:37

It will be good to give DS some 1-1 time while DD is at nursery.

I don't see the issue. My friend had twins and she put them into nursery on separate days so she could have a day a week 1-1 with each one.

OP is planning on putting them both in nursery though - no 1-1 with either child.

I don’t know any teachers who did this. And I don’t know any parents who took multiple days of annual leave per week without their kids.

For all those who say breaks to get housework done and for maternal mental health are essential etc - what do you think non-teacher parents do? I work full
time and have no family support and DH and I use one day of annual leave per year to do our Xmas shopping and go for a nice lunch. The idea that we should need or expect multiple child free days per week is just completely unrealistic.

If I had the absolute luxury available to me to have paid time off that I could spend with my small children I would be grabbing it with both hands.

Likesomemorecash · 27/07/2024 11:40

I used to do this and use the time to do things that I couldn't do with them at home. Mainly things like taking stuff to the tip, DIY and so on.

Just being able to leave the house without 1.5 hours prep made a big difference to my state of mind tbh

It's not nice when they cry at drop off, but there'll be tears at some point during the day with a 3 and 1 year old anyway!

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