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To not like "I hope this email finds you well" (or similar) as a professional greeting?

107 replies

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:07

It just sets my teeth on edge. I know the person sending it probably means well, and I am not entirely sure why it annoys me to be honest so I may well be being unreasonable.

I suspect it's partly because I am chronically ill so can't remember the last time I was "well".

But partly it just feels so unnecessary and not particularly professional (particularly when sent outside the organisation).

Anyway, I am partly hoping this thread will give me another perspective so I feel less irritated when I see it Grin

Ps yes I know it is totally trivial etc etc. I don't spend hours dwelling on it!

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OrangeCrusher · 26/07/2024 13:48

I use it, mostly because I just don’t have the social skills to come up with something more original. As a dyslexic I’m always conscious of making what I’ve written as clear as possible and limiting confusion. Someone should produce a checklist of things you should and shouldn’t say in an email I’d buy it. 😂

Enko · 26/07/2024 13:47

One of the guys at our ho writes

"I hope this email finds you well as always"

Annoys me especially as this last week I have really NOT been well.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 26/07/2024 13:45

YABU to take it so literally.

It's a modest, gentle, humane opener hoping the other person, at this moment in time, is finding life okay. Do you expect people to be blunt? Go straight into business? Maybe chat about the weather to be on safe ground? But what if the recipient is the victim of bad weather? What a linguistic minefield!

Perhaps rather than judging others for simple pleasantries maybe focus on why it triggers you so much. It's always easier to throw our anxieties out at other people rather than look inwards at, and process, our own triggers.

As they say, offence is taken not given.

Hateam · 26/07/2024 13:42

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:07

It just sets my teeth on edge. I know the person sending it probably means well, and I am not entirely sure why it annoys me to be honest so I may well be being unreasonable.

I suspect it's partly because I am chronically ill so can't remember the last time I was "well".

But partly it just feels so unnecessary and not particularly professional (particularly when sent outside the organisation).

Anyway, I am partly hoping this thread will give me another perspective so I feel less irritated when I see it Grin

Ps yes I know it is totally trivial etc etc. I don't spend hours dwelling on it!

I hate the phrase 'it just sets my teeth on edge." Boils my piss!

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/07/2024 13:41

It's a very old fashioned and somehat nonsensical greeting really. Email's don't find anyone - they just arrive at the specified email address. Or are delivered to it. I don't think it's a very professional greeting and so would never use it in a work context. But, its also not informal, so wouldn't use it outside work either. Perhaps if I was contacting a distant, elderly, relative it'd be appropriate?

sittingonacornflake · 26/07/2024 13:38

I agree it drives me mad!! I'm copied to all emails my team sends to clients and it's a stream of 'hope you are well' to the same person multiple times a day. If I feel like saying something I'll say something personal like 'hope you enjoyed your trip to x place' or 'hope x's football match went well' but otherwise I launch in.

tattygrl · 26/07/2024 13:37

I personally don't take it to literally refer to health, more so to general wellbeing and the person being ok, things going smoothly, kind of thing. Having said that I really don't have a strong response to it either way.

Rewis · 26/07/2024 13:35

There are quite a few corporate greetings and sign offs that I read as "fuck you" 😁
This is one of them.

starfishmummy · 26/07/2024 13:35

It's old fashioned, I'm old enough to remember it in letters, but not in business letters- it was the sort of thing I'd have put in letters to elderly relatives or friends of the family!

Hazeby · 26/07/2024 13:35

I don’t use it internally or to someone who I’ve never emailed before.

But there are some external people that I email a few times a month, and have done for years. Feels a bit rude to jump straight into business but I also find inappropriate to be too chatty. It’s a decent middle ground, IMO.

GazeboLantern · 26/07/2024 13:29

GraceUnderwire · 26/07/2024 13:15

It seems a bit old-fashioned. It reminds me of Little Women. “My Dearest Amy, I hope this letter finds you well…”

But that made sense. Someone who held her dear, eg Marmee or Jo, genuinely worried for her. But when it's a relative stranger, or a colleague you just chatted with in the corridor ten minutes ago?

I worked in a very autism-friendly job, with many ND clients, and always found it weird that some people used that phrase in their emails. It can be very confusing to ND people.

PinkTonic · 26/07/2024 13:25

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:17

Either "thank you for your email/further to my email of... " Or similar.

I use the same as you. In professional emails I do not hope people are well and I ignore it when others do. It doesn’t really irritate me though. Now people saying Hi on teams, then hope you are well….for goodness sake just tell me what you want!

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:24

minipie · 26/07/2024 13:20

I moved from a “jump right in” kind of workplace to a “hope you are well” workplace. It was a bit odd at first and seemed like a waste of time but actually, the place had a much kinder, gentler culture overall and this was a reflection of that.

Ah see I don't mind nice openers, a bit of fluff etc in an email, it's specifically the reference to health that grates (although I expect that is because I actually never feel well, but a stranger emailing from outside won't know that)

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DramaAlpaca · 26/07/2024 13:24

Oh dear. I must have used that as a greeting on half a dozen emails I've written so far today. I'd no idea I might be pissing anyone off.

I genuinely mean it, I think it's nice and I like it when I get an email that starts that way. I use it to oil the social wheels especially when I'm approaching someone for the first time, and it usually precedes me asking them for something...

It's always internal emails, I work for a large organisation. I don't think I'd use it externally.

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:24

minipie · 26/07/2024 13:20

I moved from a “jump right in” kind of workplace to a “hope you are well” workplace. It was a bit odd at first and seemed like a waste of time but actually, the place had a much kinder, gentler culture overall and this was a reflection of that.

Ah see I don't mind nice openers, a bit of fluff etc in an email, it's specifically the reference to health that grates (although I expect that is because I actually never feel well, but a stranger emailing from outside won't know that)

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Porageeater · 26/07/2024 13:24

I use it where it’s someone I know but haven’t seen or spoken to for while and if it feels a bit rude just to launch into whatever it is. I wouldn’t say it to someone I didn’t know already.

Shaketherombooga · 26/07/2024 13:23

Agreed, I just start all emails with ‘ skibidy bruh, here’s what I need’

cuts the crap. Who need to start anything with a hi, how’s it going? Slows it down.
boom

minipie · 26/07/2024 13:20

I moved from a “jump right in” kind of workplace to a “hope you are well” workplace. It was a bit odd at first and seemed like a waste of time but actually, the place had a much kinder, gentler culture overall and this was a reflection of that.

CanTaoBuster · 26/07/2024 13:19

I use it all the time for emails on ancestry. Due to the nature of it - some of the recipients might have passed away or had dementia, (suprisingly common in my experience).
Or they might just not be in the place for doing geneology currently so it’s a gentle way of messaging I guess. They can reply once they feel like it - I’ve had relatives and people replying 3-4 years later!!

WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:18

Pennyandolive · 26/07/2024 13:10

I use it and genuinely mean it too. I always feel rude and blunt if I just jump right in. It is odd to be irritated by someone wishing you well…

But can people who don't know me at all, "genuinely mean it?". I do get that if you have worked closely but intermittently over the years it might be appropriate.

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WindsurfingDreams · 26/07/2024 13:17

Tamega · 26/07/2024 13:12

So what would you use instead?

Either "thank you for your email/further to my email of... " Or similar.

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GraceUnderwire · 26/07/2024 13:15

It seems a bit old-fashioned. It reminds me of Little Women. “My Dearest Amy, I hope this letter finds you well…”

Mumoftwo1316 · 26/07/2024 13:14

Even starting with Dear is a bit weird if you analyse it.

Like, assistant head who I don't get on with, I'm not actually dear to you am I?

Mumoftwo1316 · 26/07/2024 13:13

It's just meaningless gumph to ignore. I think professional letters in French traditionally have even more silly stuff like, "pray accept my distinguished sentiments". Just ignore it

Tamega · 26/07/2024 13:12

So what would you use instead?