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YummyPotatoBun · 26/07/2024 17:03

Can someone please explain why Ceessida's mum thought it necessary to mention how musically gifted her dd is? I mean she can probably still do some musical activities in jail, or do a bit of composing? Are we to think she's too special with her musical talent to be punished for her crimes? This really confused me.

Mummysaf · 26/07/2024 17:03

The sentence is far too harsh.
However the speech was ill thought out and very foot in mouth,talking about missing events ,oh the irony?!

GoFigure235 · 26/07/2024 17:01

Her actions could have killed people. I'm struggling to see what was peaceful about them.

Pootles34 · 26/07/2024 17:00

The fact that her daughter is going to prison for four years, and her main issue is that she's going to miss her son's wedding, is frankly hilarious.

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 16:59

@MrsMitford3 "I don't think they thought they would face any consequences."
They definitely knew they would face consequences, most likely arrest and custodial sentences. I said earlier on this thread that preparing for and briefing on the legal impact of direct action is part of planning a protest. Cressida, despite being young, had previous experience of civil disobedience so would have had a realistic idea of what would likely happen.
You only need to look at history to find plenty of prisoners of conscience who served time for taking action based on their convictions.

commonground · 26/07/2024 16:58

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/07/2024 16:51

Do you think "something really mega" will prompt industries and individuals to take the necessary action?

Sadly not. But I think they probably think they have to try, right? I mean in an emergency isn't that what you do?

mrswhiplington · 26/07/2024 16:55

MsLavender · 26/07/2024 14:30

Right wingers? Do grow up.

Her and her ilks actions were a direct attack on the poor. They can all rot in prison for all I care. Those living in poverty will be disproportionately impacted by their actions and they fucking know it. It's all well and good for them to crow to us about climate change and the like but I can assure you my impact on this planet is negligible precisely BECAUSE I am poor. I shop in second hand shops, I've never had a foreign holiday, I rarely buy meat because I can't afford it, I rarely have my heating on because I can't afford it, I don't even drive ffs.

If I miss a cancer appointment then guess what, I can't simply then go private, I'd have to wait another 2 months like the cancer patient in this case. If I were to miss work and lose pay it would mean not being able to pay a bill that month. If I missed my DSs autism assessment then I'd likely have to wait another 5 years for one because I can't simply pay for another.

I am sick to the back fucking teeth of being preached to, looked down upon and inconvenienced by those who have zero understanding or empathy for what life is really like for those on the brink of poverty.

Well said!

commonground · 26/07/2024 16:52

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/07/2024 16:49

@commonground

most “regular family girls” don’t go around committing crime and causing harm to others do they?

I think most young people recognise the danger the planet is in. Her mum was pointing out that she was an ordinary girl driven to extraordinary action. (Well that's the message I got).

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/07/2024 16:51

kindlyensure · 26/07/2024 16:50

'Ecoyob' 'Moans'. Blimey, what dense headlines.

I hope that young woman realises she is on the right side of history. Poor kid.

No one is listening. Of course the protests are desperate! It's a literal planet emergency. I hope JSO and other protest groups are planning something really mega next. Wake up world!

Do you think "something really mega" will prompt industries and individuals to take the necessary action?

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 16:50

User8646382 · 26/07/2024 16:36

Sorry, but I’ve got neither the time nor the inclination to read all this. (I’m a thick, working class northerner, see, so I don’t understand a lot of big words.) I got as far as the bit about your strong-minded daughter. Fascinating, I’m sure, but how is it relevant to Cressida and her brother’s wedding?

Not relevant to Cressida's brother's wedding at all, as you well know, but literally responding to your comment @-ing me, suggesting I'm Cressida's mum. So no need for that PA 'stupid Northerner' shit.

kindlyensure · 26/07/2024 16:50

'Ecoyob' 'Moans'. Blimey, what dense headlines.

I hope that young woman realises she is on the right side of history. Poor kid.

No one is listening. Of course the protests are desperate! It's a literal planet emergency. I hope JSO and other protest groups are planning something really mega next. Wake up world!

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/07/2024 16:49

commonground · 26/07/2024 16:39

Gosh, what a great statement by the mum. I really feel for her. She mentioned the wedding to paint a picture of a regular family girl and an example of what she will miss.

She is right, btw. No one is listening. We are screwed. If we had another 100 years to effect change we might be OK. But we don't.

@commonground

most “regular family girls” don’t go around committing crime and causing harm to others do they?

MrsMitford3 · 26/07/2024 16:48

I don't think the Mum's statement was a great idea-

I def don't feel any sympathy at all for her.
Funny when it's her that is being disrupted it's different.

The prison sentence is meant to send a message.

I have much more admiration for people who clean rivers and take positive initiatives versus the ones who throw soup at works of art and glue themselves to things and shut down motorways-causing widespread chaos and not doing anything to stop oil.

It felt like they were getting away with a lot and they were getting bolder-I don't think they thought they would face any consequences.

popthepopcorns · 26/07/2024 16:46

Inastatus · 26/07/2024 16:37

@popthepopcorns - I don’t think anyone on here who agrees with Cressida’s sentencing is denying that there is a climate emergency!

Well if they agree with sentence they have a very different understanding of the definition of "emergency" to mine.

The comments on this thread illustrate why the planet is doomed.

Boomer55 · 26/07/2024 16:41

Missing a wedding? People missed work, school, funerals and hospital appts because of her and the loony brigade.

Tiny violin time…🙄

Prettypenelope · 26/07/2024 16:41

Aww dear, Cressida's mumsy! That's the way the chips fall when you've got a selfish antisocial felon in the family!

commonground · 26/07/2024 16:39

Gosh, what a great statement by the mum. I really feel for her. She mentioned the wedding to paint a picture of a regular family girl and an example of what she will miss.

She is right, btw. No one is listening. We are screwed. If we had another 100 years to effect change we might be OK. But we don't.

Clitheroo · 26/07/2024 16:38

popthepopcorns · 26/07/2024 16:29

How unutterably depressing that only 20% of people (even here, on Mumsnet, where the level of education is ostensibly higher than average) have any understanding of the impending climate emergency.

The word 'emergency' isn't hyperbole. We are on the brink of catastrophe.
Insects are disappearing, bird and animal species are becoming extinct, the few remaining forests are still being cleared... people keep buying crap from Shein and driving around cities in SUVs - and this poor girl is the problem?

Bloody hell, wake up!

I do actually, I just think JSO's actions are a hindrance and not a help.

PBandJ111 · 26/07/2024 16:37

If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime!

Inastatus · 26/07/2024 16:37

popthepopcorns · 26/07/2024 16:29

How unutterably depressing that only 20% of people (even here, on Mumsnet, where the level of education is ostensibly higher than average) have any understanding of the impending climate emergency.

The word 'emergency' isn't hyperbole. We are on the brink of catastrophe.
Insects are disappearing, bird and animal species are becoming extinct, the few remaining forests are still being cleared... people keep buying crap from Shein and driving around cities in SUVs - and this poor girl is the problem?

Bloody hell, wake up!

@popthepopcorns - I don’t think anyone on here who agrees with Cressida’s sentencing is denying that there is a climate emergency!

PeachSnake · 26/07/2024 16:37

Maddy70 · 26/07/2024 13:23

Peaceful protecting should not be illegal

The French wouldnt stand for .it Neither would the Spanish

Outrageous that the uk who prides itself (or did!) On free speach and democracy has made protesting illegal

Peaceful protesting isn't illegal, this wasn't peaceful. Far from it, most unpeaceful actually caused deep bitter resentment as is shown on the responses to this post.
Lets not draw parallels with what France wouldn't stand for, I don't know a single right minded person that believes the French protesters are an outshining example that we would aspire to have in our country.
And as for free speach - i don't even know what that means.

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User8646382 · 26/07/2024 16:36

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 16:06

@User8646382 😂 I can see how you might think that, but no. But I'm clearly in some kind of minority on this thread. I'm a working class immigrant raised on environmentalism by necessity and international solidarity, working with asylum-seekers from regions impacted by the climate emergency so, despite being a middle-aged woman and a mother of a strong-minded DD, I've little else in common with Mrs CressieMum.

And I'm not really in a lather, just frustrated that instead of directing a bit more "Wtf!?"-energy at the fossil fuel corporations who are screwing us all over with the help of our governments (here's hoping Labour will bring fresh hope), the working poor of the UK, many of whom were adversely and disproportionately impacted by the actions of JSO, are being cynically pitted against a handful of protesters (and a mum) instead of encouraged to rise in solidarity with the poor and voiceless in other nations, who are really feeling the climate emergency bite already. In terms of having a voice, and choosing whether we use it or not, we have the privilege. So we should think carefully about where we put our energy.

@SoreAndTired1 , I'm sorry you're unwell. The prevention of emergency services vehicles to reach their destinations doesn't sit well with most people, I don't think.
As to whether Cressida really cares about her cause: I suspect she does. I'm working class and know working class kids who care deeply about the environment and have participated in direct action. It is in the interest of workers of all nations to demand climate justice.

@macaroniandcheeze, way to go!

Sorry, but I’ve got neither the time nor the inclination to read all this. (I’m a thick, working class northerner, see, so I don’t understand a lot of big words.) I got as far as the bit about your strong-minded daughter. Fascinating, I’m sure, but how is it relevant to Cressida and her brother’s wedding?

Muffin101 · 26/07/2024 16:36

I mean, it’s a bit ridiculous to be trying to garner public sympathy for this young woman by pointing out she’ll be missing an important event (to her!) when she was jailed for causing massive delays to thousands and thousands of other people, all of whom were on their way to events which were probably rather important to them.
Protest if you want, cause a nuisance of yourself if you must, and if you feel it to be the most effective, but don’t start with the tiny violins when it backfires on your personal life!

popthepopcorns · 26/07/2024 16:32

PBandJ111 · 26/07/2024 16:31

Serves the stupid girl right. Wish people would protest near the wedding and see how they like it. What difference are they making, sweet FA. Go protest in china and see how that goes.

Stupid, eh?

PBandJ111 · 26/07/2024 16:31

Serves the stupid girl right. Wish people would protest near the wedding and see how they like it. What difference are they making, sweet FA. Go protest in china and see how that goes.

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