Cressida Gething missing bro's wedding

Many posters seem to delight in imagining these protesters being disappointed or shocked at being given long custodial sentences, suggesting they were just doing it for 'social media likes' or thought they'd be 'let off'. The legal process and the justice system is not some surprising, unforeseen consequence in acts of civil disobedience, it's part and parcel of the process of disruption and bringing a cause to public attention.

Here's an extract from a statement from Roger Hallam: "This trial was an experiment with the truth, as Gandhi called it. We were not trying to win, we were trying to tell the truth as if the truth was real... It was integrity, not expediency. So obviously, we spoke that truth. Obviously, we got interrupted. Obviously, we continue to speak even when the judges shouted at us to stop, had us dragged from the dock, banged up in jail."
No surprises for anyone involved.

But it shows us that, while our model of growth economy and reliance on fossil fuels continues to perpetuate and facilitate climate breakdown which is already having disastrous consequences for the global South, we are happy to cheer on a judiciary which is locking up the canaries.

A poster on one JSO thread, @CautiousLurker I think, posted about how her (?) DH works in the roll-out and logistics of game-changing low-carbon tech and solutions (I hope I've got this right). This is what we all need to get behind and demand investment and research into ‐there are some brilliant minds working on extraordinary innovations‐ instead of sniggering at the perceived just deserts of others and taking down someone's mum.

Do the rest have mothers making crass remarks too? Havent seen that yet.

It appears that the law disagrees with you on what constitutes peaceful protest then, otherwise these protestors would not be going to prison?

Unfortunately yes, that's what living in a free democratic society with the right to free speech and peaceful protest means. It doesn't mean 'the right to protest only for causes that noblegiraffe off mumsnet agrees with and only in a way which doesn't inconvenience mumsnet users in general'

Cressida's mum didn't 'go to the press' though. She read out a statement, the intended audience being fellow JSO supporters, posted on JSO SM, which was picked up by the press.

And I think a PP just now was right, and I made the same point at the start of this thread: I think she was trying to illustrate that Cressida will also be missing out on something. She definitely doesn't sound as if she's moaning or complaining, that is 100% media spin.

And I keep seeing references to C's brother's wedding being a destination event abroad. I've yet to find any verifiable mention of this.

I listened to her mother's statement yesterday, wow, a totally different one from the one I would have given in her shoes.

Maybe Reform could block the M25 to bring 'awareness' of the immigrant situation. After all, nothing else they've done has made Labour or tories wake up and change policies and stop all immigration and all refugees. /s

*NB: I am left wing and not anti-immigrant or anti-refugee, just saying if you think JSO have a valid reason to do what they do, so do any and every crackpot group, including neo-nazis/nationalists and anti-refugee groups. As you do for one, so you do for all.

Ok, so you're happy for the M25 to be closed by Gaza protesters and climate change protesters.

Tommy Robinson and co were protesting in London yesterday. They also have regular protests that no one pays attention to.

So the M25 is now fair game for them too.

Yes I absolutely think that, I'm a strong supporter of the Gaza marches and go on them myself. People are 'upping the ante' worldwide and I think they are right to do so. I'm really concerned about the clamp down on peaceful protest. I guess if you think otherwise you'd better hope you don't find yourself on the other side of it one day. Myself, I'm too much of a coward to risk arrest, but I have the utmost admiration for those that do. I'm pretty grateful the suffragettes 'upped the ante' and made a nuisance of themselves as well, and civil rights protesters. I imagine future generations will look on counter change protesters with a very different attitude.

That’s because if the ill-conceived statement by her mother.

Just a thought. Do you think that Cressida’s mother mentioned the wedding to illustrate that Cressida has also affected by her protests? So she meant to sound like she was empathising with all those missed appointments, rather than trying to garner sympathy.

But it has spectacularly backfired.

People talk about less disruptive protests, negotiating etc. But that has been done and people are not interested.

Then if no one is interested, take the hint. If they aren't interested now, killing people, causing car collisions, people to miss cancer treatment and special needs children missing out on medication sure as fuck won't make them interested, either!

Because her family is the one going to the media, that's why. @Allfur . None of the others are.

But the same people are condemning her for protesting, yet think it's OK to suggest throwing paint at someone's wedding. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that. It's nonsensical.

I'm not saying these types of protests are right, but no one is listening to what is a climate emergency. We are taking all those things for granted- the ability to travel, medical treatment for diseases, law and order all those things that people would be travelling to. Our children won't have the same quality of life which we do - yet no one is listening.
People talk about less disruptive protests, negotiating etc. But that has been done and people are not interested.

It's interesting that of all the group jailed, it's the young female getting most flack

But surely Cressida would have boycotted the wedding in principle anyway due to its carbon footprint?

Absolutely. I can't understand why her mother even thought for a moment that Cressida would go to the wedding in the first place. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

As if she would participate in all of these protests then fly overseas unnecessarily.

If you're arguing that it is acceptable to shut down the M25 and disrupt thousands of journeys for that cause, because it is necessary to get attention, then do you think it's acceptable for other people to do it too for their cause?

People are very upset about the situation in Gaza and have been protesting in London for months - should they up the ante to get attention too?

Or do you think climate change is the only cause where blocking the M25 should be allowed?

These people are all repeat offenders, @Fizbosshoes , Cressida herself has 3 priors. A fine does 1 fifth of fuck all. Not to mention, her family is extremely rich (the father is a national director of several orchestras) so it's like paying for a chocolate bar for them. 4 years is lousy and not long enough considering their stunt caused at least three deaths, a cancer patient with an aggressive cancer having to reschedule and couldn't get in for another 2 months!, a car collision, a man had a heart attack, another man couldn't even get to his own father's funeral (he said he'd never forgive the group), children with special needs unable to get their medication. And even more! 4 years is a bloody joke, it should have been a minimum of 15 years, with manslaughter charges added on!

But surely Cressida would have boycotted the wedding in principle anyway due to its carbon footprint?

Theres a video linked earlier in this thread I think, showing her putting a letter through an MPs letterbox and then telling the policemen outside that she is banned from doing that, being so close to any MPs house, has a restraining order and to no ones surprise she is arrested.

Now she had already posted the letter so the whole thing seemed set up to get arrested, and advertising. That's what I call peaceful protest. No one but herself delayed, no one pissed off. When she gets out she should do more of that type of thing.
And another thought, her mum seems to back her, maybe her mum could do something to get arrested too. See how she likes a few years in prison.

I had to laugh at her mother, CF that she is. The inconvenience they put thousands of people through, work related, funerals, missed flights, missed hospital appointments.

Unless, like thousands of people getting married, the bride doesn't arrive in a car

Publicity seeking is the point

Surely going to jail adds more publicity?
(All publicity is good publicity?)
...although I do think the sentence is disproportionately harsh.
If they had been given a fine or suspended sentence it would have had way less press or tv coverage, and no one would have heard of the individuals.

She messed up so many thousands of peoples' days.
Right she suffers the tiniest inconvenience as retribution.
I read the whole statement of the judge in sentencing (I would urge others to do so too - in my view an exemplar in fairness in British judgement) and I think Cressida and the others got their fair deserts.