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Neighbours kids playing outside early…

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FooFightersFan · 26/07/2024 10:22

It’s the school holidays and I appreciate that by starting this thread I’m going to sound like a right grump, but here goes…

Our garden backs onto two houses, both of which are owned by couples with young kids. All four parents work from home full time.

The kids (youngest 3, all primary school aged) regularly play outside in the gardens. The houses are new build with literally no plants or shrubs. Just lawn surrounded by fence / brick walls. The noise just bounces around as there is nothing to ‘absorb’ it.

I accept that they are noisy when they play because they are young, energetic and kids!

Now that the school summer holidays are well under way, it’s become apparent that getting up and out into the garden at 8am is their routine. And they shout. A lot.
Then at 10am they go inside and there is silence for a while.

I can deal with it, I have 2 kids and I appreciate that’s what kids are like.

and here’s the “but”…

My son works full time and his room overlooks our back garden. He works 12 hour shifts a lot of days, in hospitality. Most shifts mean he is home around 11pm and in bed by midnight. He’s getting increasingly fed up with the neighbour kids’ morning routine.

During term time, the outside playing is just at the weekend. But now it’s a daily occurrence due to the holidays, I really feel for my son, because being woken up 90 mins before he needs to be up for his next shift is pretty miserable.

WIBU to message or pop round to my neighbours and see if they can encourage their kids to be quieter (a big ask) or to not let them out before 9:00.

I’ve become that grumpy neighbour 😩

OP posts:
annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:33

MadMadaMim · 28/07/2024 17:11

8am IS early.

Maybe go out every night from 9-11pm and sit in your garden screeching to loud music. Better still, invite friends round for play dates and party in the garden

The '8am is not early' brigade would have food for thought

But again, that would be acceptable as it’s before11, the kids go out after 7. The OP didn’t even try any suggestions before complaining which proves she is unreasonable

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:30

sixtyten · 28/07/2024 14:14

If he’s not it’s no one else’s responsibility though. There is enough of a window to get 8 hours before any children playing at 8am.
If he chooses to stay up for hours that’s got nothing to do with the neighbours living a perfectly normal lifestyle.

I wasn't talking about 'choosing to stay up for hours'. Many people have difficulty sleeping even when tired and therefore can't get a full sleep in 8 hours. And why the sneering about a 'perfectly normal' lifestyle?

So much disdain on this thread for people whose waking hours are in any way different from the preconceived norm.

The point is through after 7am there can be noise, yes not ridiculous screaming and shouting but the OP didn’t even try the suggestions before complaining which definitely makes her seem unreasonable and entitled and she thinks everyone should fit in with her

mydogisthebest · 29/07/2024 16:29

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:05

Totally agree. She wanted everyone to agree with her. I can’t believe she had the nerve to ask them to quieten down. That’s so unfair as it’s going to make the parents feel anxious if they are a bit too loud. Even if her sons got to sleep at 12am he would still be getting 8 hours sleep. Can’t believe how entitled she is. I hope if he wakes them up when returning home late at night that they ask him to not bring his car back until 8am. The OP is a typical Karen

So the sound of a car engine, which quite likely is not even very noisy, for a minute or so compared with screaming children which is much louder and almost certainly goes on for far longer than a minute. The two don't compare in the slightest.

I think she was right to speak to them and it doesn't sound like she actually said to quieten down but you exaggerate why don't you.

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:26

SwingTheMonkey · 29/07/2024 16:13

Isn’t she!

If I were the neighbour I’d have had a right laugh about a mother of an adult son coming to sort out her little boy’s problem for him!

Totally agree, if I was the neighbour I would deliberately make some more noise just to per her off. Can you imagine if she decided to make a formal complaint to anywhere? ‘My precious little boy of 19 is only able to get about 8 hours of sleep as the next door neighbours children are in the garden at 8am and having fun’ 🙄 I bet anything that this mum and son complain about everything , feel bad for those poor neighbours of hers

SwingTheMonkey · 29/07/2024 16:13

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:11

Seems like the OP just wanted to moan. She didn’t even try any of the suggestions before complaining. She is so entitled

Isn’t she!

If I were the neighbour I’d have had a right laugh about a mother of an adult son coming to sort out her little boy’s problem for him!

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:11

jannier · 28/07/2024 11:57

So he's not even a night shift if he's home and hour later he could. Be in bed before 12 and get the 8 hours most of us have

Seems like the OP just wanted to moan. She didn’t even try any of the suggestions before complaining. She is so entitled

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:09

FooFightersFan · 27/07/2024 18:41

So this morning the playing kicked off around 7:45am. As usual, all went quiet around 10am. And by this afternoon we had 3 tennis balls arrive in the garden.

So earlier I gathered them up and popped round to the neighbours house. The kids were playing in the garden of the other house, so I felt that was a good time to approach the parents of the little boy.

I have spoken with them a few times before so we aren’t complete strangers. Mum was out, but dad was there and when he saw me with the tennis balls he almost apologised straight away!

I asked him if noisy outside play could start a little bit later in the day, and he was so lovely about it. I explained about my DS working long hours, and he was understanding. We agreed that maybe 9am at the earliest, at least at the weekend, was reasonable.

We will see how things pan out…

wht Did you bother asking any of us our opinion then? So basically you were moaning about noise but hadnt even tried ear plugs etc and decided to complain anyway.
if you had even tried solutions first but you are way too entitled. Can’t get over the cheek of you and your son

annamilo · 29/07/2024 16:05

CustardCreams2 · 28/07/2024 12:03

What’s the point in asking for peoples opinions OP when you’ve clearly not taken any on board. And now gone to ask the neighbours to be quiet. You’re like Andy Murray’s mum. 8am is a completely reasonable social hour. Playing loudly as a child is not a crime nor bad behaviour. The world doesn’t revolve around your son, and the fact he works shift work is completely irrelevant. What if the neighbours were to complain about his car pulling in late at night waking the children? He needs to deal with it. Ear plugs, close window. Or what about he moves to his own place away from the children. Why is he still living at home with you? This is very entitled on you and your sons part. I would agree with you if it were 5-6am. But it is not. The world doesn’t stop for your son.

Totally agree. She wanted everyone to agree with her. I can’t believe she had the nerve to ask them to quieten down. That’s so unfair as it’s going to make the parents feel anxious if they are a bit too loud. Even if her sons got to sleep at 12am he would still be getting 8 hours sleep. Can’t believe how entitled she is. I hope if he wakes them up when returning home late at night that they ask him to not bring his car back until 8am. The OP is a typical Karen

annamilo · 29/07/2024 15:59

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 27/07/2024 13:56

This exactly. ^ Ludicrous comparison!

I know one thing; you can tell the people on this thread whose life is being made miserable (or has been in the past!) by badly behaved feral children; and the parents themselves with the badly behaved feral children, who don't give a shit about how their childrens behaviour affects others!

This thread is littered with both!

The hours for consideration to noise are between 11am and 7pm. The OP sounds completely entitled and if her son at 19 can’t complain himself without Mummy’s help it’s a joke

annamilo · 29/07/2024 14:15

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 28/07/2024 22:56

This is how I'm playing it. I don't actually want to be in my garden that late but lack of consideration on one side means less need for curtailing of normal activities on the other.

But no one said it wouldn’t. The hours for consideration for noise is 11pm until 7am so the OP has no leg to stand on

annamilo · 29/07/2024 14:14

FeeBee73 · 27/07/2024 18:23

I feel 8 am is early.
How would they feel if it was the other way round and your son brought some friends back and were chilling in the garden until 3am?
Hospitality is hard work and he wont be going to sleep until after midnight/1 am at least.
A reasonable request of keeping them in until after 9 isn't too much to ask. When mine were younger I wouldn't let them go out until then at the weekend and during the holidays.

thats a ridiculous comparison. The hours for which people need to be considerate is 11pm until 7am. I would get if it was screaming all day but I highly doubt it

annamilo · 29/07/2024 14:04

Salumthecat · 27/07/2024 23:01

How do you literally take the piss?

Do you think OP is a doctor?

Is that supposed to be funny?

annamilo · 29/07/2024 13:58

Sti · 27/07/2024 21:54

Go and tell them he works shifts. I used to work nightshifts and told my neighbours, they changed there behaviour after i told them

Why do other people in other households have to be quiet for someone else. Seriously 🙄

Goodtogossip · 29/07/2024 13:24

If your Son is woken up could he maybe go into another room to finish his sleep where he can't hear the kids playing? If it's only an hour before he's due to get up anyway even a snooze on the sofa would benefit him.

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 28/07/2024 22:56

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 28/07/2024 15:11

If it’s ok for kids to be out and screaming at 8 am then it would be ok for me to sit in my garden having a few wines with some music till 11pm. Works both ways.

This is how I'm playing it. I don't actually want to be in my garden that late but lack of consideration on one side means less need for curtailing of normal activities on the other.

Sparklyhat · 28/07/2024 21:07

I think 8am is too early to play in the garden. I have a 3 and 5 year old, the 3 year old wanted to play outside at 7am but I won't let him til at least 9 because I know they sometimes shout. I wouldn't let them pay outside at 8, not fair to the neighbours so YANBU. The trouble is there's not a lot you can do about it. Can he keep his bedroom window closed and try ear plugs, I'd rather that that go knocking on their door.
I work shifts myself till midnight but don't have that trouble as my kids get me up early in the morning anyway

XChrome · 28/07/2024 18:40

Bushmillsbabe · 28/07/2024 15:14

Absolutely it does. Neither of those are unreasonable, as long as the playing and the music isn't too loud

In what world is screaming not too loud?

sixtyten · 28/07/2024 18:06

I've always been tiered and low iron actually my sleep since cancer has been in stretches of 2 to 3 hours

Fair dos, that sounds hard. I'd struggle to keep going on that little sleep.

S0livagant · 28/07/2024 18:03

MadMadaMim · 28/07/2024 17:11

8am IS early.

Maybe go out every night from 9-11pm and sit in your garden screeching to loud music. Better still, invite friends round for play dates and party in the garden

The '8am is not early' brigade would have food for thought

The children are only screeching, not to loud music. And nighttime hours are 11pm to 7am so them screeching from 8am is comparable to you screeching until 10pm. Go ahead without the music as that's fair enough.

I don't agree with screeching or shrieking or screaming or excessively loud music at any hour myself. I do think it's fair enough that if children are playing out from 8am and making noise then adults or teens can be outside making similar noise until 10pm though.

My neighbours do occasionally have outside gatherings and are noisy in the evening, and teens are playing noisy ball games at 9pm or later.

jannier · 28/07/2024 17:28

sixtyten · 28/07/2024 12:04

I'm 60 and have worked 55 hours plus for over 30 years does he need to check his bloods?

Different people have different energy levels. You sound very energetic, but not everyone is. Also, not everyone is a good sleeper. Cracks me up the way people are asserting that the son is 'getting his 8 hours'. He may well not be.

I've always been tiered and low iron actually my sleep since cancer has been in stretches of 2 to 3 hours

MadMadaMim · 28/07/2024 17:11

8am IS early.

Maybe go out every night from 9-11pm and sit in your garden screeching to loud music. Better still, invite friends round for play dates and party in the garden

The '8am is not early' brigade would have food for thought

LimehouseG · 28/07/2024 16:47

Personally I can understand that 8am feels early, especially if they are shrieking at the top of their voices but it doesn't feel unreasonable enough to ask them to stop. If the parents work from home I wonder if 8 is the morning work zoom call so ironically having them in the house is too noisy?! If you have a good relationship with families maybe you could politely request that that until 9 it's a bit quieter but beyond that I think you/your son will have to live with it. PS Earplugs are a good idea.

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 28/07/2024 15:17

Bushmillsbabe · 28/07/2024 15:14

Absolutely it does. Neither of those are unreasonable, as long as the playing and the music isn't too loud

Exactly.

Bushmillsbabe · 28/07/2024 15:14

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 28/07/2024 15:11

If it’s ok for kids to be out and screaming at 8 am then it would be ok for me to sit in my garden having a few wines with some music till 11pm. Works both ways.

Absolutely it does. Neither of those are unreasonable, as long as the playing and the music isn't too loud

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 28/07/2024 15:11

If it’s ok for kids to be out and screaming at 8 am then it would be ok for me to sit in my garden having a few wines with some music till 11pm. Works both ways.