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Pulled up for “picking on someone at work”.

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ThunderRoadRunner · 26/07/2024 06:26

I’ve been on holiday for a few weeks, and will be going back to work on Monday. I’m dreading it.

For the last couple of days before I went on holiday I lost it at work. In all my working days, which amounts to a few decades, I’ve never lost my temper.

It centred around a number of new-ish people we have in our dept. They’ve been there about 6 months. They literally do no work, do not hand over any completed work and even just leave things in the sink for other people to wash up after them etc.

I and another colleague have assertively asked them about the handovers, ask them to clean up their mess, and point out that work has not been done, which means I and a few others end up doing it. This is done professionally. However, I came in a couple of days before I went on vacation and was told there were formal complaints about “being picked on”.

I just lost it.

WIBU to expect colleagues to do their share? After all, it’s the rest of us that end up picking up the slack.

Also, I really want to go back to work with a strategy that involves me not picking up the slack for others on top of my own stressful job. Any tips?

OP posts:
VeryHappyBunny · 01/08/2024 06:26

Wind your own neck in. If you had bothered to read this through the managers don't want to manage and have told the workers they are mature enough to sort out their own problems. When you have shown the same people how to do something for the umpteenth time and despite suggesting that they write it down, they don't, and you can't get on with your own work because they haven't done what they were supposed to do first and training other members of staff is not in your job description is it any wonder that people get just a tad pissed off. The OP is not in a management or training position and yet is expected to manage and train and when she does she gets accused of "picking on" people who are supposed to be adults. We are talking about graduates not 16 year olds straight out of secondary school. God knows what they graduated in, definitely not common sense or work ethic.

Swiftie1878 · 31/07/2024 22:55

Considering your considerable experience, you have clearly handled this very badly!
It’s not your job to comment or correct others’ work. You do your job, and any issues from
others you report to your line manager to deal with.
If you’ve been tackling the individuals yourself, you are ripe for a bullying charge.
Wind your neck in.

wippandzipp · 31/07/2024 17:45

I find chatGBT really helpful in giving good, clear step by step guidance to workplace issues. You do need to go back into work and resolve it in a professional manner with your managers. Good luck.

Allergictoironing · 31/07/2024 17:40

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 31/07/2024 13:24

She’d have to raise it in supervision then. If she tells the powers that be she can’t do her job because of the slackers then it will get sorted quite quickly probably. It would be a performance issue.

Edited

That assumes that her company has regular supervisions. Where I work now does, but I've been in many places where that isn't a requirement.

VeryHappyBunny · 31/07/2024 17:16

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 31/07/2024 13:24

She’d have to raise it in supervision then. If she tells the powers that be she can’t do her job because of the slackers then it will get sorted quite quickly probably. It would be a performance issue.

Edited

But her supervisors don't want to supervise and the managers don't want to manage, they want the staff to sort things out themselves. In trying to do this and getting nowhere, she let off steam, not at the slackers, but with her colleagues who are in the same situation and has been pulled up about it. This is a no-win situation for her.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 31/07/2024 13:24

Allergictoironing · 30/07/2024 06:14

I get the impression that OP can't do her work until the other stuff is completed. Sort of like you can't put the roof on a house until the walls are built.

She’d have to raise it in supervision then. If she tells the powers that be she can’t do her job because of the slackers then it will get sorted quite quickly probably. It would be a performance issue.

Allergictoironing · 31/07/2024 07:18

One of the things about your first job is that you don't just learn the job, you learn about how to operate in the workplace.

If these colleagues have just left school, they will have no clue whatsoever about how to behave at work.

I'm going to take a wild stab that after 6 months in the office, being asked to behave in certain ways and having the example of experienced office staff to follow (e.g. actually cleaning up after yourself), these people DO have a clue even if they didn't to start with. It can't be ignorance after that amount of time, must purely be idleness and/or entitlement.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 31/07/2024 00:57

If these colleagues have just left school, they will have no clue whatsoever about how to behave at work.

Seems like they have no clue how to behave, full stop. Do what you are asked and clean up after yourself are primary school level requirements.

Did none of them ever have Saturday jobs or holiday jobs?

And since when was it the employer's job to tell them where to go for lunch? This sort of thing just perpetuates the helplessness and expectation of spoonfeeding. You find out that sort of thing through talking to your colleagues, or going for a walk in your lunch break.

Mh67 · 30/07/2024 21:31

Very simple don't do it. Do what you are paid to do. The management will see exactly what is happening. Dishes bring your own keep in locker and ignore their mess

HollyKnight · 30/07/2024 20:59

Pass your complaints up the line. Let your manager manage this. That is their job. You have even more reason to do this now. Stop cleaning up after grown adults. You aren't their mother. Let the bin overflow. Leave the cups in the sink.

ScreamingBeans · 30/07/2024 20:38

One of the things about your first job is that you don't just learn the job, you learn about how to operate in the workplace.

If these colleagues have just left school, they will have no clue whatsoever about how to behave at work.

That's where a proper induction process is absolutely essential and your managaement is shit for not having one.

Best thing you could do is offer to draw up an induction program with instructions on how to do stuff, what the norm is, stuff like toilets, lunch, smoking breaks etc, where the nice sandwich bars are, where the local park is to sit in at lunchtime, code for the photocopier, what each department does, where the stationery cupboard is etc.

As someone else said go to them with a solution, not a problem.

Allergictoironing · 30/07/2024 18:37

letsjustdothis · 30/07/2024 14:25

I don't understand why you would be doing their washing up or clearing up after them, just leave it. You don't have a parent or housemate relationship with them, leave it to the cleaner. If the cleaner wants to complain or it goes around in a passive aggressive email then let them.

As an employer I would see it as a huge negative, it looks like you're finding excuses to avoid work and I'm not paying you to do the office's washing up.

Edited

Not every workplace has a cleaner you know, and those which do sometimes have a limit on what tasks they carry out e.g. empty bins, vacuum floor, wipe over desks, not all do the washing up & cleaning the kitchen.

And maybe, just maybe, the OP feels sick having to use a kitchen covered in other people's rotting stinking waste & cups growing mould - yes, I have worked in places where cups got left & grow a good inch or so of greenish mould on top of the dregs left by the previous user.

letsjustdothis · 30/07/2024 14:25

I don't understand why you would be doing their washing up or clearing up after them, just leave it. You don't have a parent or housemate relationship with them, leave it to the cleaner. If the cleaner wants to complain or it goes around in a passive aggressive email then let them.

As an employer I would see it as a huge negative, it looks like you're finding excuses to avoid work and I'm not paying you to do the office's washing up.

Cece54 · 30/07/2024 13:36

There is never a good reason for "losing it" at work, where is your professionalism?

Are you serious 1mabon !!! You clearly work either alone or in cloud cuckoo land!! People as a rule don't "lose it" without extreme provocation. Its nice you've never encountered that but I actually finally retired from my job before I was sacked as I was truly in danger of punching a very vile horrible colleague, with whom I had "lost it" on more than one occasion. She was so vile even line managers were afraid of her. I did manage to instigate a formal complaint against her to those very much further up the ladder before I left though, which HAD to be followed up. She left the job after that, but I'd had enough by then.

OP, I'd document EVERYTHING you know about these lazy arses, and ALWAYS put everything in writing, e.g instructions to them about how to do things, 'polite reminders' of overdue work, EVERYTHING... then you have proof you've tried to help but they're not engaging. I sympathise... been there !!!!

1mabon · 30/07/2024 13:06

There is never a good reason for "losing it" at work, where is your professionalism?

LookItsMeAgain · 30/07/2024 11:20

How did you get on yesterday @ThunderRoadRunner ?

Allergictoironing · 30/07/2024 06:14

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 29/07/2024 16:28

Just don’t do their work?

I get the impression that OP can't do her work until the other stuff is completed. Sort of like you can't put the roof on a house until the walls are built.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 29/07/2024 16:28

ThunderRoadRunner · 26/07/2024 06:38

Haleibi,

I didn’t articulate that properly. I just want to do my job, and I don’t want extra work. I’m trying to work out how I approach this.

Just don’t do their work?

MrsClatterbuck · 29/07/2024 16:17

If anyone forgot their pass at work they had to ask for a visitors pass and sign for it. We weren't allowed to share passes.

Seymour5 · 29/07/2024 16:12

LookItsMeAgain · 29/07/2024 09:01

Hope today is going well for you @ThunderRoadRunner .

Yes, I hope so too. 🤞

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 29/07/2024 14:35

Mnk711 · 29/07/2024 11:08

Also this. Useless nobbers.

Go above your managers head to their manager if they aren't dealing with this.

Edingril · 29/07/2024 11:11

When I manage people I don't want to be included in every email they send I have enough in my inbox to be getting on with, I am not back at school I expect staff to not need to me micromanaged

Mnk711 · 29/07/2024 11:08

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 28/07/2024 17:08

This an excellent idea OP copy in your manager but Bcc your manager into the emails and your colleagues won't know they can see them only you and your manager will know it. One of my friends did this when her colleagues were blaming her for work they hadn't completed. One colleague flat out lied to their boss blaming everything on my friend until the boss produced the emails my friend bcc the boss into apparently colleague was silent and couldn't explain themselves lol

Also this. Useless nobbers.

Mnk711 · 29/07/2024 11:07

ThunderRoadRunner · 28/07/2024 07:36

Hi pondering

The task I said I’ve shown how to do enough times is a really simple one, like photocopying. It requires a login code. I have shown this particular person how to use it a number of times. I even suggested they get a note book and write down the codes, and a couple of notes. However I get asked all the time; what’s the code again, where’s the paper, and when I go over they basically stand back and expect me to login, go get the paper etc. Another one is, I’ve forgotten my access card, can you let me in/out 8 times a day. It’s draining.

The last time they asked me, I said, I’ve given you the code and showed you how to use it a few times now. I’d appreciate it if you could write it down.

I’ve already decided that when asked, I’m going to get up and show them thoroughly how to use/ do something, and write whatever on a piece of paper, and then say that I’ve shown them a number of times now, and I’d appreciate if they could note down the steps to do it.

It’s not part of my job to train people.

Just say you can't help any more. Don't say I've told you loads of times you idiot, just be 'too busy' with something else. Then if/when they involve your manager and say you won't help them you can just say - very sorry manager I was very busy but also I'm confused as I showed them 5 times how to do X, so actually not even sure they needed my help.

LookItsMeAgain · 29/07/2024 09:01

Hope today is going well for you @ThunderRoadRunner .