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Pulled up for “picking on someone at work”.

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ThunderRoadRunner · 26/07/2024 06:26

I’ve been on holiday for a few weeks, and will be going back to work on Monday. I’m dreading it.

For the last couple of days before I went on holiday I lost it at work. In all my working days, which amounts to a few decades, I’ve never lost my temper.

It centred around a number of new-ish people we have in our dept. They’ve been there about 6 months. They literally do no work, do not hand over any completed work and even just leave things in the sink for other people to wash up after them etc.

I and another colleague have assertively asked them about the handovers, ask them to clean up their mess, and point out that work has not been done, which means I and a few others end up doing it. This is done professionally. However, I came in a couple of days before I went on vacation and was told there were formal complaints about “being picked on”.

I just lost it.

WIBU to expect colleagues to do their share? After all, it’s the rest of us that end up picking up the slack.

Also, I really want to go back to work with a strategy that involves me not picking up the slack for others on top of my own stressful job. Any tips?

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LookItsMeAgain · 13/08/2024 17:20

How are you getting on now @ThunderRoadRunner?

HalebiHabibti · 09/08/2024 15:17

Try the 'what do you want me to not do' approach first, OP. Then if they say you need to do all of it, I'd suggest you... don't. Do as much as you can in office hours and then go home. State domestic responsibilities. They surely can't argue with you on that.

VeryHappyBunny · 09/08/2024 14:06

Sunnydiary · 09/08/2024 13:45

So you ask manager which of your usual tasks they want you to drop as you cannot complete the work in the remaining time. Stay calm, no emotional language, just a simple question.

I used to do this when my boss insisted I did more than my own job and that everything had to be done first thing as a priority. I asked him if he could list which job was 1st first thing, which was 2nd first thing etc. You cannot do a day's work (and more) with everything being a priority.

I got a timetable to work from and a comprehensive list of my responsibilities and I stuck to it. It meant that things weren't done on time, but tough shit, this is what he told me to do and in what order. If co-workers are not doing their jobs and generally taking the piss, why do you have to pick up the slack?

In the end I got so fed up I left and found another job and the relief of leaving was like a lead weight being lifted off me. You are a long time at work so don't spend it being miserable. Spend the weekend looking for something else and when you find it you can tell them to stick their job where the sun doesn't shine.

Beautiful3 · 09/08/2024 14:00

Sunnydiary · 09/08/2024 13:45

So you ask manager which of your usual tasks they want you to drop as you cannot complete the work in the remaining time. Stay calm, no emotional language, just a simple question.

This.
I was given an extra job, on top of my own. I asked my boss which parts she was happy for me to drop. She said none! So I didn't do it! It was crazy of her.

Sunnydiary · 09/08/2024 13:45

So you ask manager which of your usual tasks they want you to drop as you cannot complete the work in the remaining time. Stay calm, no emotional language, just a simple question.

ThunderRoadRunner · 09/08/2024 13:43

Yes, I don’t want to do it. It’s not instead of my own work, it’s on top of it.

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Sunnydiary · 09/08/2024 13:42

Why don’t you want to do it? I don’t think you can refuse unless it’s above your grade really.

What you do need to do is ask about prioritisation of your usual work whilst you are doing this project.

pollymere · 09/08/2024 13:39

IDK... If they've put it in the diary, it means they are acknowledging that you are doing someone else's work which is useful for Reviews and Promotions. It also means they then have evidence that the person who should have done the work clearly didn't which helps them sack them!

custardcreme77 · 09/08/2024 13:26

OP, I think it is now time for you to take time out of work altogether due to work-related stress. If your managers are choosing to ignore the poor performance of others for a quiet life - resulting in good staff being imposed on even more - then management will have to suffer the consequences of their absence due to ill-health / stress.
Look after yourself.

Catza · 09/08/2024 13:20

ThunderRoadRunner · 09/08/2024 13:13

Not great TBH. Last week I did my own job snd no more, but then saw a big chunk of scheduled time in my calendar next week. I asked what it was and was told it was time for me to go off and do some undisturbed work on a project as it’s behind.

Yes, it’s behind because others don’t pull their weight. I’m furious. At the time I said nothing as I was not sure I’d say something I’d regret later. I’m taking the w/e to calm down. I don’t want to do it.

Well, at least they gave you allocated time to do it so that's a bit of a progress.

ThunderRoadRunner · 09/08/2024 13:13

Not great TBH. Last week I did my own job snd no more, but then saw a big chunk of scheduled time in my calendar next week. I asked what it was and was told it was time for me to go off and do some undisturbed work on a project as it’s behind.

Yes, it’s behind because others don’t pull their weight. I’m furious. At the time I said nothing as I was not sure I’d say something I’d regret later. I’m taking the w/e to calm down. I don’t want to do it.

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Beautiful3 · 09/08/2024 12:38

How's it going @ThunderRoadRunner ? I'm hoping management have changed their tune, and are resolving issues?

Yalta · 03/08/2024 12:24

I think everyone should take a leaf out of this employees way of working

Don’t do anything till 11, go to lunch at 12, come back at 1.30 and then go for a break for 45 mins

and if a manager complains tell them to wind their neck in

LookItsMeAgain · 02/08/2024 14:08

My advice at this point, if you don't think it's too weird a suggestion, would be to contact someone like Ben Askins (he puts videos on social media) as this is just right up his street. He may be able to offer you some constructive advice.

Definitely do a diary including what has happened since your return to work after your break. If enough of you report to OH, surely something has to be done? Can enough of you join a union??

ThunderRoadRunner · 02/08/2024 14:08

I’ve kept my cool this week of course. I’ve tried to be factual, and matter of fact. I don’t want to ever get stressed out big time at work again, it’s unprofessional, and I’ve got other more important personal stuff that needs my energy.

I’ve now realised that it’s been drip drip in giving me responsibility, with no extra pay or authority (someone said this down thread) and it’s just been piled on to me (and other colleagues) like one extra layer at a time. At one point this week I asked someone to help me do something and I thought they were going to tell me to fuck off. I negotiated with them to help me complete something whereas with everyone else it works both ways, you help me, then when you need help of course, I’m there.

It has really got to my MH and other colleagues too.

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VeryHappyBunny · 02/08/2024 14:00

Over the weekend write a list of all the things you have been asked to do that are not in your job description or pay grade and keep a note of all the time people are not at their desk or workspace. It is hard to remember these things off the top of your head in a meeting

The person who took my job, and wanted more money than I got for doing it, used to go AWOL for at least 1 1/2 hours every lunch time, not bad for a 30 min break. Our manager didn't like phones unanswered so when she cleared off I used to transfer her calls to his phone. He also didn't like this. I told him that when I am busy answering her phone I can't answer my own which makes me look bad. She was a smoker as well so had plenty of "fag breaks", I don't smoke but they weren't impressed when I asked for a Gin and Tonic break instead.

When she was out on her extended lunch the office secretary would ring me up and I would sing Eric Carmen's All By Myself to her. She would then make a note of every time I was on my own in the office for an hour or more.

This sort of shit can really get to you after a while and you need to look after your long term health. I decided I had had enough and got another job. Funnily enough there was a big reorganization after I left when they found out who did the work but wasn't there any more to do it.

Hopefully you can get something sorted out early next week, but in the meantime enjoy the weekend and relax a bit.

Beautiful3 · 02/08/2024 12:07

Why is your manager such a wet drip?! He doesn't like confrontation and wants you to do their work?! What an idiot, you'll all end up leaving because of it! The managers will end up finishing the work, and I'm sure they'll discipline the new staff then. I'd tell your colleagues to keep logging what they're doing/not doing. Stop working over/extra. Report all missed deadlines. Until it all gets picked up by upper management.

RampantIvy · 02/08/2024 11:52

It soundsike you need to refer this to HR.

I hope things escalate so that you get a successful resolution to this.

lazyarse123 · 02/08/2024 11:50

I'm so sorry nothing has changed. It's definitely a management issue. Hopefully if all the good colleagues come together and back each other up changes might happen.

ThunderRoadRunner · 02/08/2024 11:45

Sorry not been back to you. Got back from holiday, had loads to do at home, then went back to work.

It’s been pretty shit all week. Nothings changed.

Just to clarify, I’m not, nor want to be the manager, but I’m often asked to take on their role, when they aren’t around, which involves asking for things. It’s not just me, there are others in the same boat as me.

Whilst I was away a few of my colleagues ended up off sick and now referring themselves to our wellbeing section as they feel it’s too much, doing their job, dealing with all the stress of conflict, and lack of support.

My meeting didn’t happen. Management too busy.

I was told by another manager that the whole organisation has recognised that they have a serious problem with our younger recruits and they’ve been having meetings about it. Not sure what’ll happen there. IMO it’s coupled with a management issue.

On Monday, one of my dept. Came in at 11, went for lunch at 12, came back at 1.30 and then went off again for 45 mins for a vape. Their work is not completed, and one of us will be asked to pick it up. My colleague went to the manager and was told to wind her neck in and stop complaining about the other colleague.

I’m invited with my other colleagues to a meeting to discuss how things are going, hopefully next week. There I fully intend to tell them I’m no longer prepared to do extra work, unpaid, and unsupported and further more, the next time it happens, I too will self refer to our occupational health.

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Swiftie1878 · 01/08/2024 10:49

RampantIvy · 01/08/2024 07:59

Perhaps you should read all of the OP's updates before you tell her to wind her neck in Hmm

Back at you!

I had read all the updates. My advice remains the same.
She needs to force management to manage by handing problems back to them. By attempting to manage the shirkers herself, she IS effectively picking on them as she is not their boss.
A simple bit of clear thinking and communication to the bosses (and escalating the issue if bosses refuse to do their job) will sort it out.

lazzapazza · 01/08/2024 08:30

Do not work harder to bail them out.
Start leaving the office a mess as well.

You need to make this a problem for the boss rather than taking on an implied responsibility. Until this causes your manager grief nothing will change.

There is no benefit raising this with HR. They are there to look after the company rather than you.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 01/08/2024 08:17

Or get another job.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 01/08/2024 08:12

VeryHappyBunny · 31/07/2024 17:16

But her supervisors don't want to supervise and the managers don't want to manage, they want the staff to sort things out themselves. In trying to do this and getting nowhere, she let off steam, not at the slackers, but with her colleagues who are in the same situation and has been pulled up about it. This is a no-win situation for her.

It the managers aren’t fussed about whether the job gets done then what does it matter? What are they going to do? Get angry with her for not doing not doing her job when she literally can’t? So yeah, just stop doing their work for them.

RampantIvy · 01/08/2024 07:59

Swiftie1878 · 31/07/2024 22:55

Considering your considerable experience, you have clearly handled this very badly!
It’s not your job to comment or correct others’ work. You do your job, and any issues from
others you report to your line manager to deal with.
If you’ve been tackling the individuals yourself, you are ripe for a bullying charge.
Wind your neck in.

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Perhaps you should read all of the OP's updates before you tell her to wind her neck in Hmm

Back at you!