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To be really sick of supermarkets treating paying customers like scum

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OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:34

Sainsbury's traps you in the self service pen of shame until you scan your receipt like a good little girl

Tesco won't take the security tags off your wine until you've not only paid but they've examined your receipt in detail to make sure your wine is paid for - sort of a performance so you remember your place

Waitrose makes a bit song and dance about doing the rescan of self scanning shops (I don't do self scanning because why would I sign up for this extra work?)

Just in Lidl and my wine set off the security alarm even though I've had the tags taken off and the security guard chased me out the door to try to get me to show him inside my bags (er no fuck off pal)

Aldi staff try to look in your shopping bags as you queue

Does anywhere NOT get a kick out of treating their profit drivers like filth any more?

I will probably just have to live off UHPs from the local Greggs at this rate

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Strathfan · 25/07/2024 15:00

“Sainsbury's traps you in the self service pen of shame until you scan your receipt like a good little girl”

😂😂😂 god yes!!! Our local one doesn’t do this but my mums one does. Ridiculous. Put me off going there again.

PurpleDiva22 · 25/07/2024 15:00

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:58

It's not their job to look inside people's private property and they have no right to demand it.

So what do you think the protocol should be in that situation?

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 15:00

RLouiseH · 25/07/2024 14:58

I know what you mean- I don’t mind the measures but it’s the way we can be treated.

I bought a dress from Tesco the other day at self checkout (along with a few grocery items) and after I scanned it, before bagging it, I walked a few steps over to where the member of staff was stood and showed the tag and asked if she was okay to remove it. Really shortly she said “where’s your receipt?” And I said “oh sorry I’ve just scanned it, I’ve not finished with my other bits yet.” And SO rudely she said “well I’m not going to take the tag off until you’ve paid, you need to pay first then bring me the receipt to prove it.” I don’t feel it comes off strong enough when I type it but she said it so rudely/patronisingly and I felt really embarrassed. I apologised and went back to my machine and carried on scanning/bagging and then when I had finished up I took the dress and receipt over to her, and she took it off without a word to me.
I feel like their system makes sense, I get why they do it, it just hasn’t occurred to me as I scanned, and ultimately I feel she did NOT need to speak to me like that, a simple smile and a “Oo I’ll do it once you’re finished up, just pop back over to me with the recipt!” Said in in friendly tone, would’ve been much better.

I know exactly what you mean. Tesco staff are awful for this. They literally act as though you are on day release and they're your probation officer.

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S0livagant · 25/07/2024 14:59

MartyFunkhouser · 25/07/2024 14:58

Can’t say I relate to any of this. We do our shopping in Tesco and mostly a small local M&S.

Di you live in a bad area, OP?

What's a 'bad' area?

ScottishScouser · 25/07/2024 14:59

Its area dependent

They don't do that where I live - in fact the tags off the wine are often removed when were in the queue for self serve chatting to the staff.

I'm in the highlands.

But where my mother is... the staff have body cams and its everything like you describe.

She's in Liverpool

Wendycoping · 25/07/2024 14:59

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:40

Really. How do you think scanning your little receipt like a good girl good girl can I have a biscuit stops theft?

I would examine yourself carefully to see why this is so triggering for you.

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:58

PurpleDiva22 · 25/07/2024 14:57

I'm confused why you can't see how these things make sense....

Proving youve paid for the item before removing the tag: around here if people manage to get items out of the shop without the alarm going off, they bring them back because they "forgot to take the security tag off". It's quite common to be asked for proof of purchase.

Your item set off the security alarm.... I'm not really sure why you are surprised or angry you were asked to show your bags? It's literally the point of the alarm? As with any technology, they come with a fault like wrongly going off but 9 times out of 10 they work!

We don't have Waitrose but Tesco do the self scan rescan once every couple of shops. They don't know who I am, they don't know I'm an honest person, it doesn't really bother me they want to check every so often that I'm using their system correctly?

You are very angry for no reason!

It's not their job to look inside people's private property and they have no right to demand it.

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RLouiseH · 25/07/2024 14:58

I know what you mean- I don’t mind the measures but it’s the way we can be treated.

I bought a dress from Tesco the other day at self checkout (along with a few grocery items) and after I scanned it, before bagging it, I walked a few steps over to where the member of staff was stood and showed the tag and asked if she was okay to remove it. Really shortly she said “where’s your receipt?” And I said “oh sorry I’ve just scanned it, I’ve not finished with my other bits yet.” And SO rudely she said “well I’m not going to take the tag off until you’ve paid, you need to pay first then bring me the receipt to prove it.” I don’t feel it comes off strong enough when I type it but she said it so rudely/patronisingly and I felt really embarrassed. I apologised and went back to my machine and carried on scanning/bagging and then when I had finished up I took the dress and receipt over to her, and she took it off without a word to me.
I feel like their system makes sense, I get why they do it, it just hasn’t occurred to me as I scanned, and ultimately I feel she did NOT need to speak to me like that, a simple smile and a “Oo I’ll do it once you’re finished up, just pop back over to me with the recipt!” Said in in friendly tone, would’ve been much better.

MartyFunkhouser · 25/07/2024 14:58

Can’t say I relate to any of this. We do our shopping in Tesco and mostly a small local M&S.

Di you live in a bad area, OP?

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:58

SummerSnowstorm · 25/07/2024 14:56

You do realise that the people you're causing drama and confrontation with are doing their job?
They aren't the ones who thought up the security measures.

Indeed but hopefully they can feed up the chain. And also even if they are only obeying orders, I don't necessarily have to cooperate with their policy. I have to live within the law of this country, that's all.

Thetwix · 25/07/2024 14:57

I think it’s only a matter of time before supermarkets where you can just wander around and pick stuff up are gone. As soon as they can fully mechanise and automate the picking process I predict supermarkets will be nothing more than collection points for prepaid orders, fulfilled by robots in a few giant warehouses. Which will solve lots of OPs problems, as shop lifting will be a thing of the past.

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:57

BuzzKiller · 25/07/2024 14:56

It doesn’t help that there are no consequences for low level theft (I heard a rumour that the police won’t be called unless the theft amounts to over £250. Unsure whether that’s accurate or not though!)

The police may be called but unless you live in Sleepytown they almost certainly won't come.

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S0livagant · 25/07/2024 14:57

SummerSnowstorm · 25/07/2024 14:53

It's partly culture changing over time, more awareness that police won't do anything unless there's excessive violence, and some of it seems to be organised crime. Again likely worsened by the state of the police and how stretched they are, which is again worsened by societal changes.
CoL will contribute to some cases, and gives them more customers, but it's far from the only cause otherwise it would be widespread across young families rather than primarily being groups of 18-30 males.

I'd say women do it too. Just that it's young men boldly walking out. Women are more likely to pay for some things and hide other things.

Bjorkdidit · 25/07/2024 14:57

S1lverCandle · 25/07/2024 14:53

God, you sound exhausting, op. I bet you think you're being all edgy and sticking it to the Man. You just sound like a not very bright teenager pissed off at their mum.

Well it is the school holidays now isn't it.

Wait until the OP notices that most self scan tills now have cameras on so you can get a close up of all your chins so they have evidence if you're putting through courgettes as carrots.

PurpleDiva22 · 25/07/2024 14:57

I'm confused why you can't see how these things make sense....

Proving youve paid for the item before removing the tag: around here if people manage to get items out of the shop without the alarm going off, they bring them back because they "forgot to take the security tag off". It's quite common to be asked for proof of purchase.

Your item set off the security alarm.... I'm not really sure why you are surprised or angry you were asked to show your bags? It's literally the point of the alarm? As with any technology, they come with a fault like wrongly going off but 9 times out of 10 they work!

We don't have Waitrose but Tesco do the self scan rescan once every couple of shops. They don't know who I am, they don't know I'm an honest person, it doesn't really bother me they want to check every so often that I'm using their system correctly?

You are very angry for no reason!

Mickey79 · 25/07/2024 14:56

Ive never experienced any of this 🤷‍♀️.

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:56

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:55

If I have to scan the barcode receipt to exit....then I tear through the barcode and ask if they're detaining me. I think it's an outrageous policy

Yeah in Sainsbury's I have just rammed the thing and chuckled as everyone stares at the alarm but I'm not giving them my money.

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Needmorelego · 25/07/2024 14:56

@OptimismvsRealism sometimes products have security tags on that the till doesn't always de-tag like they are supposed to.
Some stock arrives at store pre-tagged and it's not always noticed.
Not the fault of the staff nor the customer but just one of those irritating things.
If you HAVEN'T stolen anything why does it matter if the security guard needs to double check.
You'd be pissed off if you got home and discovered a clothing tag still attached.

zzar45 · 25/07/2024 14:56

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:55

If I have to scan the barcode receipt to exit....then I tear through the barcode and ask if they're detaining me. I think it's an outrageous policy

You’re very cool.

SummerSnowstorm · 25/07/2024 14:56

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:55

If I have to scan the barcode receipt to exit....then I tear through the barcode and ask if they're detaining me. I think it's an outrageous policy

You do realise that the people you're causing drama and confrontation with are doing their job?
They aren't the ones who thought up the security measures.

BuzzKiller · 25/07/2024 14:56

It doesn’t help that there are no consequences for low level theft (I heard a rumour that the police won’t be called unless the theft amounts to over £250. Unsure whether that’s accurate or not though!)

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:55

However the supermarket near me which was doing that seems to have abandoned it which speaks volumes.

OptimismvsRealism · 25/07/2024 14:55

The main reason people shoplift is that, unless you work in a regulated profession, you've no reason to fear a shoplifting conviction. Absolutely no reason not to just take what want besides personal morality. The only way it will stop is if the law changes. But instead of focusing on that businesses choose to play twatface with the customers who don't pilfer.

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S0livagant · 25/07/2024 14:55

Magnastorm · 25/07/2024 14:51

How does proving you've paid for something prove that you aren't shop lifting?

I wonder.

It doesn't. It only proves you've paid for what's on the receipt, not everything you are taking out of the shop.

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 14:55

If I have to scan the barcode receipt to exit....then I tear through the barcode and ask if they're detaining me. I think it's an outrageous policy