Perhaps women aren't cut out to be on the front line?

But the vast majority of trumps security team were men so men aren't up to it either because all the men ignored being told there was a shooter on the roof? Your logic only would make sense of it was an all woman team. Trump actually praised the female member of his team after the attempt on his life

In a hand-to-hand physical fight mostly men will beat women. Fortunately, soldiers, government agents and police officers today have a range of weapons and tools that mean it rarely comes down to this. Ultimately, a bullet is no respecter of sex or gender and many police officers of both sexes have sustained injuries. The last few deaths have been of male officers by the way.

As for the other side of the argument, the evidence base actually shows that women are consistently better than men at risk assessment, so...

This is a question about temperament and ability far more than sex.

I know. Absolutely vile cretin like thinking.

Such a lot of front line experience you don't know how body armour works? @orchiddottyback

@ButtSurgery Yep, look at her. She is leaning into his chest and covering the gap under the arms. 😂

Oh please stop your embarrassing yourself.

Yep, look at her. She is leaning into his chest and covering the gap under the arms. Watch as she helps grapple him off stage - she is covering that section the whole time with her head, OK and her shoulders as well.

Trump didn't want to be moved and had to be forced down and forced off the stage - I don't see you critiquing the (at least) four men in that picture?

" Wow, clearly a topic you know fuck all about.... 😂😂😂

Trump had one female SS agent, who was the first to react to his injury and on removing him from the stage had her head over the gap in his body armour. Read that again. Her head."

Well clearly a topic you know fuck all about either, you see that very clear picture of Trumps face that is exactly what is wrong. 🙄

I thought that's what they meant but wanted an explanation.

Didn't realise dinasours still roamed the earth.

This poster is saying that women get promoted because they suck off their male bosses!

So what is women's strong point then, in your opinion? It sounds as though we only have one. I hope it's a good one!

Sitting in an office with a wine list ready for dinner plans with fellow RAF?

Or under fire in Afghanistan while living in a ditch with fellow Army bods?

Anyone can claim anything while online, eh?

Wow, clearly a topic you know fuck all about.... 😂😂😂

Trump had one female SS agent, who was the first to react to his injury and on removing him from the stage had her head over the gap in his body armour. Read that again. Her head.

There were plenty of male agents with her who did absolutely fuck all including not protecting the terribly tall orange man from any headshots - were they also a problem to you?

Women officers tend not to have trouble with men ignoring authority. Authority comes from credibility. I've yet to see a female officer being ignored any more than a male officer once they take control of a situation. Situations cannot always be controlled immediately, sometimes they deteriorate, sometimes they are already fucked when you arrive, but in the end it should finish with the police having regained control of it.

Astonishingly in England and Wales in 2023 there were 73,300 male police officers to 42,621 female. Why then, if so incompetent, do we not see daily videos of women cocking it all up for the nice competent men?

Let’s hope you’re not a cop then. I’ve seen several female colleagues be much more use in a fight than male colleagues. Stop stereotyping.

It isn't a fact though is it. Have you ever been on the frontline in a hostile situation? I doubt it, so please do one with your 'facts'.

"I really suggest that women make better police officers in general. Yes in terms of physical the average man can have more strength than the average woman, but an average man against a trained woman??? Not a chance."

Id have to complete disagree, even with a trained female. Males' upper bodies, on average, have 75% more muscle mass and 90% more strength than females'.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200205132404.htm

For your everyday female officer, even if fit the difference is pretty dammed high. there may be outliers for for this to the the average or normal no chance.

For all those saying they are able to be as physically able to restrain or control a violent male criminal or combatants in most circumstances. I'm sure you are all happy for males to be placed in female categories' for sport also.

I really suggest that women make better police officers in general. Yes in terms of physical the average man can have more strength than the average woman, but an average man against a trained woman??? Not a chance. Batons hurt, so do tazers, let alone a kick in the nuts. The difference is down to mentality. Women who are fearful of getting hit perhaps don't stop the attack in time, because they may try to run, but apart from that, I've been absolutely decked by a police woman. (We were doing self defence classes for teenage girls) and I was "the agressor".. before people think I've got some seedy past.

While women are being promoted because they give BJs to the bosses

What does this mean?

I know it's not the same thing but I can well believe this. In the horse world quite often the really petite and short women are those that the bolshy horses respect the most, and they're people that 6ft1 built like a brick shithouse me wouldn't get on the wrong side of either! I think being of a smaller stature can sometimes mean that those people get really skilled at taking no nonsense from half ton animals and demanding respectful behaviour, and that animals are really good at reading body language and a person's quality of presence - or that they soon learn the hard way! I imagine a similar principal might be at stake in human to human interactions.

It was women's fault, men were violent.

It was women's fault that they didn't stop the violent men.

Obviously the men would have done it so much better. Right? I mean we have irrefutable evidence that it wouldn't have happened if it had been a man there instead. Right?

Of course men in serious front line roles have track records which are totally infalliable. Right?

I mean, if we want to look at it this way, how many blokes got it wrong with Presidential assassinations. Not just attempts, but assassinations? 100 % track record preventing assassinations and assassination attempts? Oh.

Or we could look at who was on the team on the ground that day, and just how many blokes missed the shooter and stood around doing nothing. And how many women were on that team. It was totally the woman's fault.

Or we could consider how many females have tried to assassinate the president. Hmm.

Yes. All about women being shit and how it wouldn't happen if a bloke had been there. Apart from all the blokes that WERE there.

Women all have different strong points.

Being a woman isn't all cross stitch, kittens and talking about tampons.

I've worked in a manual, male dominated job all my life (farming and gardening - often isolated bloody hard work) and have never once needed to ask a man to do something I was unable to do.

Indeed. I'd like anyone who was suitably qualified as a firefighter having passed all the tests required of men and women.

Sorry im failing to see your point here?

I don't believe work like that plays into women's strong point at all

You seem to be reducing an entire sex class of people to a stereotype.

Perhaps women are individuals and stereotypes only harm us.

To claim that it's not women's strong point is to imply that it is men's strong point, but there are plenty of men who aren't suited to a job in policing or security. Men who would shit themselves, quake in their boots, be prone to being traumatised easily, not be able to put the day job down at night, not be able to focus for long enough periods of time to be effective and reliable. Just like there are plenty of women who do have those qualities.