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Perhaps women aren't cut out to be on the front line?

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andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:21

Footage of the female officers at the attempted assassination of Trump, and of the scenes at Manchester Airport makes me think that perhaps we're not best suited in those situations.

Would those four violent men have dared attack male officers in the same way?

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PangolinPan · 25/07/2024 14:35

I happen to know a bit about how personal protective officers are trained and any failings there with nothing to do with whether the officers had vaginas or penises.
More like a training failure which doesn't discriminate. And the papers the next day showed how underfunded the secret service had become.

zzar45 · 25/07/2024 14:34

Because the male police officer stamping on the head of someone already contained and on the ground is a great example of modern policing.

Realduchymarmalade · 25/07/2024 14:34

Of course it should be a male job. Those women looked ridiculous and I felt embarrassed for them. But you won’t find many on here to agree with you OP.

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 25/07/2024 14:33

You are being sexist.

A lot of women don't have the required skills and characteristics to be effective in these kinds of circumstances. Some do.

A lot of men don't have the required skills and characteristics to be effective in these kinds of circumstances. Some do.

Because of the physical differences between men and women the proportions between the haves and have-nots are different for the two sexes. Obviously.

It's stupid and sexist to have any blanket rule to say women can't do a specific role.

Instead you have a well defined list of the skills and characteristics needed to do the job well. These can include strength, speed, reaction time, accuracy of aim etc. Having a willy isn't going to be one of the required characteristics. If a woman has all the required characteristics she can do the job. If a lot more men than women meet the required characteristics that's fine, not sexism.

Saschka · 25/07/2024 14:32

Changingname1988 · 25/07/2024 14:30

Were there female secret service agents working when JFK was killed in 1963? I doubt it. On your logic, men aren’t up to the job either.

Whereas Col Gadaffi had a female-only security team, and nobody ever shot him!

OP, the issue is clearly that Trump didn’t have enough women on his team.

Ponoka7 · 25/07/2024 14:30

andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:25

Obviously but that's more of an equal playing field.

If someone was attacking me, I would want a man defending me. Personally.

If I was an innocent bystander I don't want the male police/army/security handling it all tbh. We need to de-escalate the situation and people who would have good forward thinking. It was men who caused every disaster to be worse than it need be by not responding adequately. The inquiry into the Manchester bombing, showed that we need people who can do their jobs properly and aren't arrogant enough to think that they know what is happening. There's a question over is it correct that armed response went in.

Changingname1988 · 25/07/2024 14:30

Were there female secret service agents working when JFK was killed in 1963? I doubt it. On your logic, men aren’t up to the job either.

Saschka · 25/07/2024 14:29

andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:25

I don't believe work like that plays into women's strong point at all

Then don’t apply for those kinds of jobs? They don’t play to the strengths of lots of men either.

With Donald Trump, I’m not sure being male or female has any protective effect on gunshot wounds.

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andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:29

CleanShirt · 25/07/2024 14:28

Interesting first post.

Name change.

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SantaMariaMaggiore · 25/07/2024 14:29

Women LIVE on the front line. HTH.

CleanShirt · 25/07/2024 14:28

Interesting first post.

AgnesX · 25/07/2024 14:26

Like men have never attacked men. Didn't stop individuals taking a pop at Reagan or JFK did it🙄

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andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:25

I don't believe work like that plays into women's strong point at all

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Wallcreeper · 25/07/2024 14:25

notsorighteousthesedays · 25/07/2024 14:23

I think you may have a point, after all we never see male on male violence.....

Exactly this.

Honestly, OP, put your thinking cap on.

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andsisters · 25/07/2024 14:25

Obviously but that's more of an equal playing field.

If someone was attacking me, I would want a man defending me. Personally.

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Outlookmainlyfair · 25/07/2024 14:25

notsorighteousthesedays · 25/07/2024 14:23

I think you may have a point, after all we never see male on male violence.....

This

leeverarch · 25/07/2024 14:24
Hmm

Nutters and terrorists don't care who they attack or who stands in their way.

notsorighteousthesedays · 25/07/2024 14:23

I think you may have a point, after all we never see male on male violence.....

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