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Kegas · 25/07/2024 13:37

Their parents are high achievers? I know I shouldn’t feel disappointed but I do. Me and DH are very high achievers. From school and now well into our careers. I sort of assumed our child would be even better than that, but they’re very much not. AIBU to have expected differently?

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Threeboysadogacatandakitten · 25/07/2024 17:27

Dh left school at 15 with no qualifications and I was distinctly average in school but my children have all done very well for themselves in the end.

The highest earner of my three adult dc had only just started speaking at school at 6, never mind reading or writing but he got better Higher/Advanced Higher results than his older brother who was considered a “high achiever” in primary school. Then their much younger brother, who had the Covid years at the start of secondary school and was diagnosed with ASD and DCD finished school with a, fairly unexpected, near perfect, set of exam results. It’s far, far too early to tell who they are going to be at 6. Mine were also all rubbish at sport except swimming at which they did well but doesn’t count for anything at school!

My advice (which you probably don’t want but I will give anyway) is firstly, stop worrying and change your mindset, accept that he’s running slightly below average at the moment and look at whether there could be anything affecting his learning. Make sure he has had his eyes tested by an optrometrist and get his hearing checked. Does he have difficulty writing because his hand get sore. He could be hyper-mobile or just lack muscle strength. Then lots and lots of learning through play. Baking, counting with toys or object, cut and stick to match sounds and words that he is doing. Practice writing them in the sand, flour whilst baking, bubble bath in the bath, chalk on the drive etc. Read to him and with him all the time, signs when out, sauce bottles on the table, comics etc. consider music lessons once he can sit still long enough. Ds1 and 2 started with violin, Ds3 with piano, he’s a great pianist now and loves playing for pleasure. It’s another string to their bow (pardon the pun) and definitely helps academically. Most of all, boost his confidence. Tell him how clever he is and praise every little achievement. He will be fine and so will you.

Toptotoe · 25/07/2024 17:26

OneBadKitty · 25/07/2024 16:59

Inheritance always tends to move towards the average. Two average parents tend to have a child a bit more above average than themselves, two very intelligent parents will have a child a bit more average than themselves etc. Same with height etc. Otherwise we we would end up with people with extreme characteristics.

That is very interesting and makes so much sense🤔

ilovesushi · 25/07/2024 17:24

Schools are obsessed with quantifying everything children do and it doesn't necessarily include things like problem solving, creativity, critical thinking, leadership which are harder to quantify but probably more vital for future academic/ career success. Just because your DC isn't scoring highly under the school's criteria doesn't mean he is or will be forever more below average. Are you sure you were recognised as high achieving at that early age? Even if he continues to perform at a below average level, don't write him off. He will undoubtedly have talents in other areas.

JudgeJ · 25/07/2024 17:23

Westfacing · 25/07/2024 13:53

Me and DH - very high achievers?

OK

Memories of the late Chris Woodhead, the first head of Ofsted, talking about the appalling standards of spoken English on the Radio 4 breakfast programme, 'Me and John were told............', I almost crashed the car, or should that be 'me almost crashed the car'??

DarkDarkNight · 25/07/2024 17:19

6?! Come on, you need to take a big step back. Let them be a child.

sixtyten · 25/07/2024 17:19

Rickrolypoly · 25/07/2024 13:45

Your poor child. Must be so hard to grow up knowing that you are a disappointment to your parents.

Exactly what I was about to say. Accept your child as he is FFS. If he hasn't already picked up on your disappointment, he soon will.

JudgeJ · 25/07/2024 17:17

Kegas · 25/07/2024 13:37

Their parents are high achievers? I know I shouldn’t feel disappointed but I do. Me and DH are very high achievers. From school and now well into our careers. I sort of assumed our child would be even better than that, but they’re very much not. AIBU to have expected differently?

There will always be people above and below the average, that's simple Mathematics,. I seem to recall years ago some politician saying that s/he wanted 75% of children to be 'above average', it made a really good discussion for my Statistics lesson that day! Remember that nothing we read on these pages is verifiable and that it's perfectly obvious that there are those for whom this is just Vanity Road.

TheLilacTurtle · 25/07/2024 17:16

savethatkitty · 25/07/2024 16:58

Just what exactly were you expecting of a 6 year old.

A child prodigy?
A musical genius?
Fluent in 5 languages?
A black belt in karate?
An elite athlete, an invitation to join an Olympic team?
A Nobel prize winner?
An acclaimed author?

Seriously! Get your expectations in check & let your child be a child. Wait until he/she is an adult, far,far away from you before you start voicing what a disappointment they are.

This. Give your head a wobble OP, your poor child. Already a disappointment, really sad.

Trimtreetrue · 25/07/2024 17:14

Check eye sight and hearing if you haven’t already . and help when they are struggling with something though make sure you are using the current methods ( CGP books are great ) read to them loads and take them to lots of museums and zoos and play board games with them . Then just relax and make sure they get to try lots of fun things to . Kids develop at different rates and are not all the same . Our most average at 6 now has a first in a science subject .

Toptotoe · 25/07/2024 17:11

You are very brave to bring this up on this forum!
I would agree that it is unusual but not unheard of.
I have 3 children- The first 2 were very much above average academically, the third not so much. Child 3 is a wonderful person - very popular, warm and kind but below average academically, however, they have above average personal qualities which I believe will stand them in good stead in the future.

crikeycrumbsblimey · 25/07/2024 17:10

I have a few high achieving friends whose kids aren’t exceptional in the same way. One of the things is they are off being high achieving and don’t invest as much time in their kids as their parents did in them. I probably don’t either.

also at 6 one of my kids was top of the class and the other near the bottom academically really struggling. 4 years later the one who hated school is top of their year and the other in the middle somewhere. Could all change again and I’m way more invested in how happy they are.

OldVase · 25/07/2024 17:10

I think the other thing this highlights is how ridiculous it is that we put so much pressure on kids to be ‘smart’. Academic intelligence is just one form of intelligence, there are so many other important things about a person; maybe they’re creative, maybe they’re kind, maybe they’re confident and a natural leader. You don’t have to be academic to achieve in life or, more importantly, be happy in life.

We need to shift our thinking away from ‘they have to be in top set or xyz’ because quite frankly it means shit. People can do well at school and have their life take a different turn, people can ‘fail’ at school and have their life turn out so well in many areas.

At the end of the day, if you focus on raising a well rounded individual then there are many other ways they can ‘succeed’.

KillerTomato7 · 25/07/2024 17:09

YABU to think that you are above average in any meaningful respect.

harrietm87 · 25/07/2024 17:06

I do kind of see what you mean OP, not that I think it is ok to write your child off academically at 6, but because I think it is normal to expect your children to be similar to you.

But if you think about all the adult siblings you know, how many are identical to each other or are carbon copies of their parents? It is totally normal for children to inherit a mishmash of different characteristics from
not just parents but wider family. Just as your child doesn’t necessarily have your hair colour, so they’re not necessarily going to have the same skills or interests.

I have 3 siblings and we are all so different in terms of academic ability, academic success, and professional success (which are all completely separate things), and yet we had the same parents and the same upbringing.

My kids are tiny but I can already see that my 6yo is very musical and creative, and physically very daring, whereas my 3yo is more cautious, but logical, loves pattern and numbers. I can’t wait to see how they develop.

Bathsheba1878 · 25/07/2024 17:06

My son (a summer born child) was significantly below an average all the way through primary and the early years of secondary school- he was in the lowest set for just about all subjects. His father and I both excelled at school.
He was eventually diagnosed with slow processing disorder and allowed extra time for exams etc. From about the age of 14 he started to do really well and is now just about to graduate from a top University.
It’s just too early at age 6 to know how things will turn out.

Despair1 · 25/07/2024 17:06

I think it's scary that parents expectations of their children are unbelievably unfair; everyone has different abilities and potential in different areas. To be comparing at this age and hoping they will do better is very worrying. Of course parents should support their children in achieving their full potential but to be expressing disappointment is very worrying. I know from experience just how competitive some parents are. Describing their 'straight A ' sons and daughters in the coffee room at work and coming in on the day of results bragging about it all. Asking for your child's results so they could compare!!!!!!
All very worrying, to the detriment of the child(ren).
Can you imagine how the children/young people feel when their best isn't good enough???

Stravaig · 25/07/2024 17:03

🤯 6!

Did school holidays just start in England? Batshit threads abound.

PuddlesPityParty · 25/07/2024 17:03

Fullofpudding · 25/07/2024 13:55

My DS was a low a low achiever at primary school. Couldn't read or spell well into the juniors. By year 6 he picked up and now he's top sets in year 9.

Don't write him off.

Yup I was average until about GCSE level then came into my own.

Blackboxbetty · 25/07/2024 17:02

Quoting @FancyBiscuitsLevel :

you’ll have a culture of expectation. “Average” will seem like failure.

but average is normal. Most kids are average. Try to think about how you can support your dc.

And this.

I went to the same secondary as my cousins. We had a conversation recently where I was moaning about my ds's secondary, all the disruptive behaviours etc. I said its not like our school used to be. And they laughed. I was in the top set and they weren't. My ds 's classes aren't streamed. They said all the stuff I moan about happened in their classes - I just didn't see it.

Being a "high achiever" can blinker your view if you've been coddled with similar people all your life.

OneBadKitty · 25/07/2024 17:00

However, age 6 is very young- I work in a school and often average children fly in the later years and catch up with those that seem to be further ahead and vice versa.

OneBadKitty · 25/07/2024 16:59

Inheritance always tends to move towards the average. Two average parents tend to have a child a bit more above average than themselves, two very intelligent parents will have a child a bit more average than themselves etc. Same with height etc. Otherwise we we would end up with people with extreme characteristics.

Adge1616 · 25/07/2024 16:58

Both the father of my son and I aced school, have degrees, masters and PhDs... both now have good jobs with good salaries... My son is developmentally very behind. Not just a little below average but so below that he has been deemed too "special" for "special" school! And I am not disappointed in him at all!!! He is affectionate, fun-loving and brings joy to the whole family. Who gives a flying anything about what things children are above or below average on... What matters is we love them and bring them up to be loving, happy, good people! With all due respect, get your priorities sorted... and accept your son for who and what he is!!!

savethatkitty · 25/07/2024 16:58

Just what exactly were you expecting of a 6 year old.

A child prodigy?
A musical genius?
Fluent in 5 languages?
A black belt in karate?
An elite athlete, an invitation to join an Olympic team?
A Nobel prize winner?
An acclaimed author?

Seriously! Get your expectations in check & let your child be a child. Wait until he/she is an adult, far,far away from you before you start voicing what a disappointment they are.

Porcuine20 · 25/07/2024 16:57

6 is still young and they might not have found their ‘thing’ yet. My eldest was below average in English and Maths at age 6 (from her end of year reports) and I probably felt similarly to you (I’m a high achiever too). She’s now 13 and has just got an amazing set of end of year exam results from school, is a talented artist and her organisational skills put mine to shame. She is autistic and was overwhelmed in a noisy infant classroom - she’s is a much smaller, quieter school now and also worked out ways to be able to focus as she got older. My youngest is less academic but has the ability to get on with anyone, is well-liked and brilliant in a team - his social skills I think are going to take him far in life. I grew up being a real people pleaser and feeling that my worth was tied up in how good I was and how well I did at school - which has done me no favours really and I’ve learned the hard way that academic achievement doesn’t necessarily equal success and happiness. I’d look for your child’s strengths and build on them, read to them lots, give them lots of experiences and trust they will find their own way. You can’t change their IQ but you can help them work with and enjoy their individual strengths.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 25/07/2024 16:57

OP - if you are still reading, you may find in families like yours, where learning and understanding things just comes naturally, where you are just good at stuff like sports after being shown what to do, you’ll have a culture of expectation. “Average” will seem like failure.

but average is normal. Most kids are average. Try to think about how you can support your dc.

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