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To think that wedding s never used to be such a ‘thing’?

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Serendipity12 · 25/07/2024 12:38

So I got married in the early 90s. We were basically students and had help from parents to afford the wedding, for which we were really grateful. At the time the wedding seemed fine, but looking back - and compared to how weddings are approached now - I’m amazed at how things seem to have changed - or were my standards just really low?!?! For instance, I had one of the first dresses I tried on and only had one fitting session and on the day realised it came with a hoop for under the skirt so I ended up looking like a meringue! In a baggy dress. The organist played the wrong piece of music going up the aisle (I didn’t want to say anything) and food was average, but everyone still had a good time. Looking back I do sort of feel regret but am I Aibu to think that at present the cost and effort and whole bridezilla destination wedding thing is just taking the pursuit of perfection a bit too far and that maybe comparison is just making me feel more regret than I need to?
YABU - your standards should have been higher for your own wedding
YANBU - weddings have become too much of a showcased thing in ore recent years
tempted to add a pic of the meringue but would be outing!!!

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missshilling · 30/07/2024 14:23

I got married in the early 90s when everyone was having an 'evening do'. I always felt second best to be invited just to an evening do so didn't have one

Neither did we. We had a party that started in the early afternoon with the wedding ceremony and ended in the early hours of the next day. Guests could come and go all day as they pleased. We even gained some extras along the way.

blobby10 · 29/07/2024 16:05

I got married in the early 90s when everyone was having an 'evening do'. I always felt second best to be invited just to an evening do so didn't have one plus we didn't have that many friends. We got married at 12 noon, sit down meal and reception at posh hotel then were on the way to our honeymoon by 7pm. H always said he would have like to stay and get drunk with his friends for another few hours - I was just glad to be out of it all! Cost £5k in total - only tried on 3 dresses, bought one of them for £400 plus a cathedral length veil for £95. Marriage lasted 20 years.

Duckswaddle · 29/07/2024 15:48

The best weddings are the low key ones where it’s about people and having fun, not over the top social media circuses - in my experience those are the marriages that don’t last.

AvidAunt · 29/07/2024 15:37

OhmygodDont · 29/07/2024 15:34

See that describes the type who I expect would of always had larger weddings from quite well off families or old money families.

When you have someone a good someone that is who can just say I know what you require I’ve found them, here are three please select. That’s where you’ve managed to outsource all the work.

But when you’ve got Sarah who works in a nursery part time and Tom who installs kitchen having a 35k plus wedding doing all their own planning and searching (or rather Sarah is) when they have two children. It’s debt or mummy and daddy pockets.

Extremely valid point, thanks for differentiating!

OhmygodDont · 29/07/2024 15:34

AvidAunt · 29/07/2024 15:29

This could be true anecdotally...but people with higher education also tend to have higher income/come from affluent families. For my wedding, it was pretty easy to hire a wedding planner; we gave him a high level overview of what we wanted for the reception and he did all the research, planning, etc. He'd present what he considered the top three options for vendors, tabletop/linens/centerpieces, flowers, etc and we'd just choose the one we liked best of the three. It definitely didn't take over our lives and I didn't have any post wedding blues, but we still had what Mumsnet would likely consider an over the top wedding.

See that describes the type who I expect would of always had larger weddings from quite well off families or old money families.

When you have someone a good someone that is who can just say I know what you require I’ve found them, here are three please select. That’s where you’ve managed to outsource all the work.

But when you’ve got Sarah who works in a nursery part time and Tom who installs kitchen having a 35k plus wedding doing all their own planning and searching (or rather Sarah is) when they have two children. It’s debt or mummy and daddy pockets.

AvidAunt · 29/07/2024 15:29

Wallcreeper · 25/07/2024 14:23

I think it's down to personality, to an extent culture, age when marrying, and often also correlates to education level. Based on people we know, across a lot of countries, the more educated, happy and professionally busy the couple, the simpler the wedding, because no one wants to take endless time out of a busy, happy life to plan an elaborate party when you could just get married in easier and more enjoyable ways. They tended to have register office quickies with two witnesses, or small, simple weddings. The most intensively-planned 'My Special Day' weddings were by people who didn't have a lot of good stuff going on in other ways, and for whom wedding saving, planning etc became a virtual obsession. And then commemmorating it, Instagramming it, etc. DH's niece got married recently, and is clearly suffering terribly from post-wedding flatness, as is her mother, who has taken to her bed... Because neither of them has done anything for the past eight months or more other than wedding plan.

This could be true anecdotally...but people with higher education also tend to have higher income/come from affluent families. For my wedding, it was pretty easy to hire a wedding planner; we gave him a high level overview of what we wanted for the reception and he did all the research, planning, etc. He'd present what he considered the top three options for vendors, tabletop/linens/centerpieces, flowers, etc and we'd just choose the one we liked best of the three. It definitely didn't take over our lives and I didn't have any post wedding blues, but we still had what Mumsnet would likely consider an over the top wedding.

Love51 · 28/07/2024 18:13

ForGreyKoala · 27/07/2024 22:43

Wow, I'm in NZ and divorcees could get married in an anglican church in the 1970s.

The rule was standing I'm the 90s, it might have been around a while. That's just the era I was involved! I only remember because we had a wedding scheduled where both of the couple had the same last name, which was commented on as a coincidence, but was actually because they had been married before to each other! Someone asked how come they could have a church wedding and the vicar explained that the first wedding hadn't been a church one.

Ozgirl75 · 28/07/2024 00:16

I got married in 2004 and it cost around 15k - it was a fairly fancy wedding and we had 80 guests so we could go to a lovely top end hotel in London for the reception. I’m an only child and my parents have good money so they let me choose whatever dress I wanted (ended up with the first one I tried and it actually was about 1k), and basically gave me free reign for the wedding. I felt like we had everything we wanted but it was based off about 5 wedding magazines because that was what was available!
My dad did baulk at what I wanted to spend on flowers and said no, and in the end the lady who did the church flowers did the hotel ones and they were so beautiful, and half the price.
We had a hen do in London with lots of friends and I felt a bit OTT as I also had a spa weekend with my three best friends.
Didn’t do favours as I knew no one would be bothered by them. Did have an amazing cake. We splurged more on food and wine but we had an afternoon wedding so only needed one meal.

It was the most amazing day and I wouldn’t change a thing.

But the truth was, we were just exposed to way fewer options back then. There wasn’t Pinterest or insta so you basically looked at a few magazines to get ideas and went to a wedding fair and that was about it!

BettyBardMacDonald · 27/07/2024 23:36

Comedycook · 25/07/2024 13:15

I don't necessarily have an issue with people who want big fancy weddings.... what irritates me is the expectation these people have on everyone else. Give up a week of your annual leave for the hen do in Spain which will cost you a couple of grand then give up another few days annual leave for the actual wedding and travel miles and miles and pay for a hotel or go abroad blah blah blah.

We don't accept invitations to evening dos or most receptions any more. Too boring. We get dressed up, attend the ceremony and then ta ta! Take ourselves out to dine if we feel like it but don't give up 12 hours of a precious weekend.

Especially since most of them have lived together or even had kids for yonks. What's the big deal at that point?

BettyBardMacDonald · 27/07/2024 23:32

My elderly neighbour, now deceased, got married in the 1950s after a wartime-ish courtship. She didn't have a dress; instead they each purchased similar grey flannel suits which they wore for years.

They were married after the regular Sunday service with whoever felt like sticking around in attendance. Her own mum did not attend as she was home roasting the chicken for lunch. After lunch with a few family and friends they drove off on honeymoon for two weeks, to the Lakes and other areas.

They were hard workers though - both professional musicians - and bought a house for cash a couple of years later, at around age 30. Never had a mortgage. She lived to age 90 in the same house! 2 BR, one bath. Raised two boys who both shared the same small second bedroom until they graduated from uni. Both of the sons are very prosperous now.

I miss her and her interesting stories about being a jazz player in the 1940s.

BiscuityBoyle · 27/07/2024 23:12

I used to be a waitress for a wedding catering company back in the late 80s. This was quite a fancy company as having caterers was quite unusual then. Most of the time it was in a function room of a hotel or the town hall. I do remember one that was in a marquee in the grounds of the brides home.
Most of my family weddings were at the church (as it was then or the registrars office and, wrongly, that was seen as cheap or that one of you was divorced) and then a social club or village hall.
I think the best example of an old fashioned family wedding is a in the last episode of Cradle to the Grave. Family doing the catering, drunk aunties dancing and the bride and groom leaving in a car all decorated and with tin cans tied on the back.

As for money and house buying, we bought our first house in 2002 with a 5% deposit and two of us working full time but on minimum wage. When we came to remortgage 5 years later we really struggled as they had tightened up the affordability checks!

Zwicky · 27/07/2024 23:05

Things have definitely changed

Opening up “venues” for weddings = huge upselling/up-levelling

Lots of extras are relatively cheap so people add them. More marketing, bridal magazines, blogs, websites and then social media have given people more ideas and they are getting married and excited and extra.

Far more people live away from their home town, and have friends/family that moved away. I don’t care who you are, you can’t invite people to travel more than 40 miles if you are only doing sandwiches in a village hall.

Every event is more than it used to be. It’s not specific to weddings.

ForGreyKoala · 27/07/2024 22:47

OhmygodDont · 27/07/2024 18:08

Haha yeah I attended one where I was given a pick of three dresses as a normal quest. Then I had to wear it in front of the bridal family to be preaproved. Then it was decided to be too boobie and given a vest top to wear with the dress they picked 🤣 read I did not wear the vest top.

That is beyond the pale. If I was told what I was to wear at someone's wedding I would be declining the invitation (with pleasure, not regret).

The world's gone mad!

Hellodarknessmyfriend · 27/07/2024 22:47

We got married just before Christmas. Pub hotel wedding as not Christians so didn't want to make false promises in a church. 17 guests. Best day ever.

Newsenmum · 27/07/2024 22:44

Fewer people get married and they’re older so it is. ‘Bigger deal’. but it’s not always better. Your wedding sounds perfect.

ForGreyKoala · 27/07/2024 22:43

Love51 · 27/07/2024 13:32

Lots of people have mentioned divorce meaning you couldn't get married in church. In my C of E church in the late 90s they would marry divorcees if the original wedding hadn't also been a church wedding. If you had already had a church wedding it was registry office and a blessing.
I think the Catholic rules are similar but the Catholic church I'm most familiar with is a very relaxed inclusive one with a priest who finds all the loopholes!

Wow, I'm in NZ and divorcees could get married in an anglican church in the 1970s.

jannier · 27/07/2024 19:26

ForPearlViper · 27/07/2024 16:44

Not least because there was a boom in products and 'financial advisers' tied to estate agents and financial institutions were incentivised to sell those products. Hands up who had an endowment mortgage missold to them that would never have never had enough in it when it matured to pay off the mortgage? Hands up who ended up in negative equity when the housing market bottomed out?

At that time there was still some respect for institutions such as banks and building societies so we didn't have cause to be suspicious. Since then we've had so many financial scandals we are a lot more circumspect.

I remember in 1992 when the interest rates soared thinking I would just need to hand in my keys and walk away from my house. It being easier to get a mortgage was not necessarily a good thing and its the reason we have such stringent affordability checks (arguably a bit to stringent) these days.

Yep we had an endowment nightmare and are still paying the mortgage taken in the late 80s no hope of taking it easy in our retirement as we can't retire.

jannier · 27/07/2024 19:23

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/07/2024 14:23

Yes, I was married before 2000

I got an archbishops special licence to marry in a church that was outside either parish ....it's a beautiful document I think it was about £20.

OhmygodDont · 27/07/2024 18:08

Hadalifeonce · 27/07/2024 18:06

I am all for a couple having the wedding they want, but please do not dictate to me what to wear. I am an adult and have dressed my self suitably for dozens of weddings in the past, I don't need your help now, thank you.

Haha yeah I attended one where I was given a pick of three dresses as a normal quest. Then I had to wear it in front of the bridal family to be preaproved. Then it was decided to be too boobie and given a vest top to wear with the dress they picked 🤣 read I did not wear the vest top.

Hadalifeonce · 27/07/2024 18:06

I am all for a couple having the wedding they want, but please do not dictate to me what to wear. I am an adult and have dressed my self suitably for dozens of weddings in the past, I don't need your help now, thank you.

ForPearlViper · 27/07/2024 16:44

TulsaGirl · 25/07/2024 13:48

This post is ABOUT THE 90s, not the 70s or 80s. And I don't disagree about the negative equity. However, it was easier to get a mortgage IN THE 90s.

Not least because there was a boom in products and 'financial advisers' tied to estate agents and financial institutions were incentivised to sell those products. Hands up who had an endowment mortgage missold to them that would never have never had enough in it when it matured to pay off the mortgage? Hands up who ended up in negative equity when the housing market bottomed out?

At that time there was still some respect for institutions such as banks and building societies so we didn't have cause to be suspicious. Since then we've had so many financial scandals we are a lot more circumspect.

I remember in 1992 when the interest rates soared thinking I would just need to hand in my keys and walk away from my house. It being easier to get a mortgage was not necessarily a good thing and its the reason we have such stringent affordability checks (arguably a bit to stringent) these days.

EmeraldDreams73 · 27/07/2024 15:42

I got married for the first time in 1999 and the style trend then was much less flounce and pomp than the 80s frights I'd seen as a kid. I definitely agree that the "wedding as a Thing" has grown massively for lots of people in recent years when it seemed to have been previously only for the wealthy/high society types. It can be one hell of a circus if people can afford/want that, and more people seem to feel they should be able to have anything they can think of.

There was an explosion in where you could get married, but I think the explosion of things like Cricut machines along with social media made a massive difference too. These contributed greatly to the huge deal around, for example, personalising and/or having signs for everything.

I got married last winter for the 2nd time and was astonished at just how much Stuff was available - some incredibly affordable and lots of it lovely, if not remotely eco friendly. I didn't go down the route of things like Bridesmaid proposal boxes etc. Did find it interesting though that I regularly had to give myself a talking to about not giving in to Wedding Envy when looking for ideas for a budget-but-lovely wedding!

Serendipity12 · 27/07/2024 15:34

PurpleDiva22 · 27/07/2024 15:17

@Serendipity12 I think it is fine to have an opinion but the righteous "I spent two nickles and a dime on my wedding, and hand made my dress from silk I got off my pet silk worm" tone of this thread is a little patronising! In one group of friends I'm in alone, there have been 5 weddings, each very different to the last with varying amounts of money spent. Doesn't any couple better than the other! Each couple thoroughly enjoyed their day!

Thanks again, I have carefully re-read my original post and really don’t see anything patronising there. I comment on a perceived general trend and wondered whether I was alone in seeing this, also whether my standards way back when in the 90s were a bit low (not speaking up for myself over my ill-fitting meringue etc!). But nothing patronising or personal. And I think other posters are listing their varied experiences and opinions, as well as quoting studies and anecdotes, all really interesting and entertaining. I don’t think there has been a patronising tone? I’m not sure who exactly would be feeling patronised as there is such a wide range of experiences being shared here!

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PurpleDiva22 · 27/07/2024 15:17

@Serendipity12 I think it is fine to have an opinion but the righteous "I spent two nickles and a dime on my wedding, and hand made my dress from silk I got off my pet silk worm" tone of this thread is a little patronising! In one group of friends I'm in alone, there have been 5 weddings, each very different to the last with varying amounts of money spent. Doesn't any couple better than the other! Each couple thoroughly enjoyed their day!

Serendipity12 · 27/07/2024 15:03

ThisBlueCrab · 27/07/2024 14:01

I got married on 2010, all diy very few frills doe around 2.5k

I am due to get married again next month. We costed up a DIY wedding and it was about 7k due to the huge jikes in hall rental etc. To have the luxury of a hotel doing it all for me was only £500 more. So it made sense, far less stressful for me!

But it doesn't matter if you spend 2k or 200k as long as you get the day you are happy with.

I have been lucky to have the money to splurge on the things that are important...my photos were crap last time because we went for cheap. This time we have gone for good which costs.

You did you, let others do them.

Does other people's choices really impact on you?

Thanks for your input. No, others’ choices do not directly impact on me but it is perfectly valid to look at and comment on general changes over time. Last time I looked it’s fine to have an opinion as well, and to seek a bit of perspective by asking others if they perceive the same changes. I will definitely carry on doing me.
btw congrats and I hope your wedding is a fab day! 😊

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