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Parents new “friend”

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Itllbealrightonthenight · 25/07/2024 10:25

I feel uncomfortable about my parents new friend, let’s call her Tracey.
My parents are in their early 60’s, both retired and have plenty of friends and family around them. Almost overnight this Tracey has become part of their everyday lives. Tracey is 26 and according to her, has crappy parents which is why my parents have taken her under their wing. She drives to their house for dinner several nights a week, goes shopping with them, goes to the gym with Dad 3 times a week. I met Tracey for the first time recently and she was pleasant enough but dismissive of me and made no effort to get to know me. I made a conscious effort to get to know her and make her feel welcome - because my parents have grown close to her. But she wasn’t interested and actually made me feel like the stranger in the situation. To my shock she repeatedly called my parents Mum and Dad. That made me feel really uncomfortable around her and I’m suspicious of how quickly she has formed this deep bond with my parents. I can’t help but question her motives. My parents have accepted her life story as she tells it- a neglected child. But the reality is she’s 26, an adult and my parents don’t actually know her yet. She lives with her Dad who she says isn’t supportive. Her mother is elsewhere and she too doesn’t have a good relationship with her. Apparently.
Im suspicious about her intentions and also peed off that she and my parents have totally disrespected me by allowing her to call them Mum and Dad. They’ve known eachother for 6 months!
Thoughts?

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jeaux90 · 26/09/2024 13:18

Honestly I'd be doing major snooping and checks into her background. Image searching on Google etc

Sociopathic behaviour around the social media posts of her with your dad really makes me shudder.

Scarletrunner · 26/09/2024 12:59

Yes, def PI.
the odds of a random lovely lady decides your DF and DM are wonderful family she never had -yet despite being lovely has no probs isolating them from their family - soooo suspect

diddl · 26/09/2024 11:15

BabyR · 26/09/2024 00:06

I fear that by falling out with your dad you are giving Tracy exactly what she wanted - you out of the picture.

I would fake make up with him so you can keep a very close eye on her.

I think this is a good point.

But I'd probably be past caring by this point!

BabyR · 26/09/2024 08:23

I thought about this a bit more last night.

Any normal person would be beyond mortified to have caused a rift between a family. I think you would automatically leave and allow space for the parents and adult child to chat - They certainly wouldn’t leave you to eat alone while skipping off with someone else’s parents or drive around in their car knowing they’ve caused upset.

Her behaviour is ringing huge alarm bells purely by not caring at the damage she is causing. Calling them mum/dad/daughter horrifies me.

Pushing you, your brother and their granddaughter away for a stranger would be unforgivable to me.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/09/2024 04:13

BabyR · 26/09/2024 00:06

I fear that by falling out with your dad you are giving Tracy exactly what she wanted - you out of the picture.

I would fake make up with him so you can keep a very close eye on her.

This.

Deffo speak to police /age concern.... /Cab...

I'd be very interested in any previous history this woman has... Your dad could be one of many targets she has...

You say you don't do social media... I'd change this..... Check Tracy's LinkedIn....( Only access this from an account that doesn't have your name /identifying details on it... I'd set up an account in a completely different name.... Tracey will have an alert saying... Jane X has searched for you on x date.

With Facebook you can also see whether you share any contacts.... See what she has on her Facebook.

My own dad was scammed some years ago... Was completely groomed by local dodgy gang who had previous form... They were NEVER around when I was... I didn't know for months (despite many visits from me...) - it was only when a neighbor warned me about these visitors that I became aware... I had no idea he'd be so daft to be taken in by them.

BabyR · 26/09/2024 00:06

I fear that by falling out with your dad you are giving Tracy exactly what she wanted - you out of the picture.

I would fake make up with him so you can keep a very close eye on her.

MrsPeterHarris · 25/09/2024 22:38

This is awful Op.

I echo the suggestions of reporting to the police & asking their advice. We had similar with my FIL and the police were great. Thankfully we got him to see sense in the end & got rid of his 'Tracy' but it was scary how quickly it all unfolded & she had moved in etc. Shocking!

Good luck & hope it all gets sorted for you.

BluebellsareBlue · 25/09/2024 21:17

This is just all so awful!!! I really don't know what I would do in your situation but the worry, frustration anger and confusion I would feel would drive me round the bend.

I don't have much advice but I am a retired cop and my suggestions are you report what you know as a possible suspicious incident. I wonder if perhaps a welfare check would be of any use or would it inflame things? I think as a cop I'd be going around saying it was an anonymous welfare check and hopefully interview this woman to get some details off of her to make sure that there was no financial abuse going on.
Failing that I couldn't bear not knowing and if I had the means I would def get a PI involved. Could your brother help out with the cost?

RhubarbieRhubarbie · 25/09/2024 20:02

user1492757084 · 25/07/2024 11:24

Report her to the local police. Give them as many details as you can as it smells like fraud to me.
Meet Tracey's father and find out about her mental health or illnesses.

Invite your parents over to stay for few days to break the habit of seeing Tracey so that they can have times with a clear brain..

I think that's a good idea

CustardCreams2 · 25/09/2024 19:58

Tracy knows exactly what she is doing. And she’s quite effective- thus far becoming insured on your dads Land Rover, being fed for free all the time, having a PT course paid for (I suspect you are right about this) and also I think you mentioned previously potentially being named on the will.

For your dad to block your daughter’s ?instagram in favour of Tracy is so so wrong on so many levels. You have my commiserations OP.

Your dad seems so entrenched in his own vanity/ego- he literally cannot see this for what it is.

I would also snoop as much as possible on Tracy. Any info you have on her - make a diary and log it all down so you have tangible evidence. Team up with your brother to decide best collective action to take.

coolkatt · 25/09/2024 10:35

And get cameras put up in ur parents home too. If all is well no one will
Mind.

coolkatt · 25/09/2024 10:34

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/09/2024 14:31

“If you havent got yourself a Dad like xxxxxx you are missing out. But you cant have mine”

This sounds sociopathic, in the context.

Have you the means to hire a private investigator? Or even a friend or two who could follow her, and get her addresss? Definitely talk with the police; this could well be financial fraud or elder abuse. They might be able to look up her record, if any.

Do you think they are giving her money? Why the hell does she need an office in their home?

Exactly this.
Follow her. Find stuff out. U will kick yourself if something happens to ur folk.

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 24/09/2024 22:16

So many men go astray when their wives are pregnant, because they feel that they are no longer the be all and end all of their partner's life, but I'm now beginning to see this as your father, perhaps feeling unwanted because your DD has grown up and doesn't spend so much time with him, and his DW, is wrapped up in caring for her own parents, hence I'm wondering if he's actually trying to replace your DM with a younger model. He's gradually working her into his actual home, by giving her office space, but how long before he tells your DM that she's no longer required? I think this might be a conversation I'd be having with your DM in your shoes, if you can meet up with her while he's not around, and just float the idea, then leave her to think about it. If she's truly as involved with this woman as your father, then it won't worry her, but if she has just the teeniest doubt, it might be enough for her to put the brakes on.

I'm so sorry you're going through this experience OP, and really hope that something happens to show your DF what a fool he's being. I'm probably around the same age as your DM, and while I trust my DH as much as you can trust anyone, no one really knows what goes through another person's mind, so there is NO WAY, that I'd be giving houseroom to a younger woman that my DH introduced as a new 'friend'! I would always be worried that it was the thin end of the wedge!!

diddl · 24/09/2024 19:51

Actually Kerry didn't take money, I bought her things. But I take your point that I'm in my 60's so I must be vulnerable and am being manipulated by scheming young person who is after my wonga.
Ha she should have chosen someone with much more than me.

You can spend what you want on who you want as far as I'm concerned.
If you're happy that you're not being manipulated then that's great.

If she's happy with what you spent on her she doesn't need someone with more money does she?

Uricon2 · 24/09/2024 19:28

The chance of one let alone both parents having a significant cognitive impairment in their early 60s is very low.

OP, your father sounds like a man who needs the adulation of a "little princess" who basically requires his help and looks up to him. Even though Tracey may be on paper an unlikely candidate for this, it's what she's doing and it feeds his ego, which is powerful stuff. I imagine you're seeing a side of his character that has never been fully displayed before, because he may have been able to have his needs met while your DD was still in that role. Now she's grown up and (quite normally) has other priorities, his self perception as the epicentre of an adoring woman's life has been threatened. There is of course your DM, but as "no man is a hero to his valet" few men retain the same sparkle and glamour after a long marriage and behaviour is according.

Tracey may be after a father figure but she certainly seems to be starting to benefit financially, in a way someone with good intent would simply not allow to happen. The fact she avoids/blanks you and other family members is not a sign she requires "family" but is threatened by you, possibly because she knows she is on the take and trying to push you out.

I think your DM is key and you, your brother and any adult grandchildren who can be drafted in to help need to lay it on the line with her, repeatedly, that Tracey's omnipresence is threatening family relationships, that your DFs attitude is very hurtful and his enmeshment with her is not normal or healthy. This may have to be done over a period, individually, and certainly separately from your father. I'd certainly make sure that any contact with your DM is well away from him, at all times and wouldn't be going to the house for more of the same treatment. Hopefully at some point it will sink in with her that she is risking the loss of her family by colluding with this.

Of course I might be utterly wrong but my gut instinct.

Shorty5678 · 24/09/2024 19:15

diddl · 24/09/2024 18:49

I agree that age gaps shouldn't matter in friendships but I was aware early on that my children would naturally feel threatened by me having a close friendship with someone who was nearer their age than mine so I have kept the friendship and family in two separate boxes.

Why would they feel threatened purely based on her age?

Knowing Kerry's life story and knowing she didn't have the same opportunities and advantages my children had growing up I have helped her financially and did that fairly early on in our friendship. She never asked for it and I always had to insist but it was something I wanted to do.

Of course she didn't ask, of course you had to insist-but the end result was that she took your money!

I know my children and know my daughters would probably feel rather jealous so rather than upset them I keep my family and my friendship separate.

Actually Kerry didn't take money, I bought her things. But I take your point that I'm in my 60's so I must be vulnerable and am being manipulated by scheming young person who is after my wonga.

Ha she should have chosen someone with much more than me.

somereallyniceadvice · 24/09/2024 19:04

Look around this forum, men in their early 60 or just tuned 60 are acting very bizarre to their children and wives

somereallyniceadvice · 24/09/2024 19:03

You have to go to the police and unfortunately, your mother's life with this man has to end. He is a weirdo and a creep ( even though just psychological ). Apparently he cannot live without having a young female presence around him. My advice is to get your mother out of his and Tracey's life. Let her take 50% before the whole lot gets spent on Tracey and your father's bizarre obsession with young females

diddl · 24/09/2024 18:49

I agree that age gaps shouldn't matter in friendships but I was aware early on that my children would naturally feel threatened by me having a close friendship with someone who was nearer their age than mine so I have kept the friendship and family in two separate boxes.

Why would they feel threatened purely based on her age?

Knowing Kerry's life story and knowing she didn't have the same opportunities and advantages my children had growing up I have helped her financially and did that fairly early on in our friendship. She never asked for it and I always had to insist but it was something I wanted to do.

Of course she didn't ask, of course you had to insist-but the end result was that she took your money!

EdgeOfSixty · 24/09/2024 18:20

Boomer55 · 24/09/2024 17:48

Your parents are early 60’s, and wouldn’t be seen as vulnerable by any agency.. They have chosen to have this woman in their lives, whatever you think.

It’s sad, but at their ages, it’s their choice.

People can get dementia/cognitive decline in their early 60s (and even younger). Especially Fronto-Temporal dementia which often starts at younger ages, mainly 45-65. Personality changes rather than forgetfulness in early stages.

ClockworkDisaster · 24/09/2024 18:11

This is really bizarre and you are right to be worried. It’s odd that she doesn’t want to get to know her new ‘siblings’ but wants your parents all to herself.

coldcallerbaiter · 24/09/2024 17:50

This does not sound like a real story. The parents are in their 60s and BOTH agree to changing their Will? They would need to be proper idiots. Does not ring true.

I would be more likely to believe it is an affair between df and T.

Boomer55 · 24/09/2024 17:48

Your parents are early 60’s, and wouldn’t be seen as vulnerable by any agency.. They have chosen to have this woman in their lives, whatever you think.

It’s sad, but at their ages, it’s their choice.

Shorty5678 · 24/09/2024 17:45

Itllbealrightonthenight · 24/09/2024 13:19

Thanks so much for sharing your experience and what sounds like a healthy friendship. Age gaps don’t really matter, especially in same sex friendships I’d say. My own best friend is 10 years older than me and we met at work 2 decades ago. You mentioned you’ve known Kerry for a few years and I think that highlights a key difference between your friendship with Kerry and my Dads with Tracey. My Dads friendship is in its infancy but is very intense and crucially is driving a wedge between his actual family. The issue isn’t him having a new friend, it’s that his friendship is at the expense of his family. No matter his new friends age, or gender. If he was hanging out with a group of guys playing golf, we’d still be feeling sidelined and hurt by his prioritisation of the golf lads. Your situation thankfully isn’t the same in this respect. You seem like a lovely person and aware of the sensitivities of introducing Kerry to your children as a surrogate daughter. I’m sure you’d ensure your children felt loved and not sidelined by your friendship, you may reassure your children of what you said above, that you don’t love them any less. You and Kerry would probably refrain from calling eachother Mum and daughter, not that any parent apart from my Dad, addresses their “child” by anything other than their Christian name. Crucially in my situation, which I think differs from yours is, that Tracey receives privileges that his own children do not. The major difference is you genuinely care about your children and their feelings.
This next part is not directly in response to you, I’ve been thinking a lot about it today and I’d like to share my thoughts some more.
That Sunday afternoon was an opportunity for my Dad to LISTEN to us, to see things from our perspective. That his relationship with Tracey has replaced us and that’s not fair. It’s not how a decent father should treat his family. If Tracey truly believed he’s such a fantastic father figure, surely overhearing our concerns would ring alarm bells for her. That was a window into the real him and any emotionally intelligent young woman would see the contradiction and be wary. Yet her response to that has been to share public displays of their bond “If you havent got yourself a Dad like xxxxxx you are missing out. But you cant have mine”. That is sending a very clear message that she couldn’t give two hoots about how her “Dad” is treating his actual family. Infact I see it as gloating to hurt us further. Anyone that comes into our lives should enhance the relationships we already have, especially family. Not come between them. In the same way that a single parent would say to a new partner that they come as package and their children will always be one of their priorities. A new partner wouldn’t replace their children. Friendships, relationships and family should be inclusive. Granted some people rub along better than others but there’s nothing more important than family and I’m deeply wounded at my Dads flippant discard of us all. Frankly, Tracey is welcome to him, I’d rather not beg for the support of my father, I’ll invest my energy elsewhere. I’ll reciprocate his effort which is exactly zero. Thankfully that means that I don’t have to communicate with the creep.
I’m pretty miffed at the moment. Can you tell?!

I hope you don't mind but a few more thoughts from me,

Although it was a few years ago I met Kerry we clicked very quickly and I would have described her as a close friend within a few weeks. I was then in my 60s whilst she was in her 20s

I agree that age gaps shouldn't matter in friendships but I was aware early on that my children would naturally feel threatened by me having a close friendship with someone who was nearer their age than mine so I have kept the friendship and family in two separate boxes. That could be viewed as me being secretive about my friendship

Knowing Kerry's life story and knowing she didn't have the same opportunities and advantages my children had growing up I have helped her financially and did that fairly early on in our friendship. She never asked for it and I always had to insist but it was something I wanted to do. If my children knew I imagine they might conclude that I'd been manipulated in some way or maybe they'd be angry with me.

I agree your father has been incredibly insensitive. Yes everyone male and female should always put their existing families first but maybe your father thinks you have grown up just fine and you don't need him any more? You don't need to read many posts on Mumsnet to realise how many men don't prioritise their families if when they still have young children. I'm certainly nor saying it's right but sadly it is the case for many fathers.

I'm guessing throwing the remote shows your father is upset by the conflict although I don't think it's the best way to show you how much he cares.

You say, "The issue isn’t him having a new friend, it’s that his friendship is at the expense of his family. No matter his new friends age, or gender. If he was hanging out with a group of guys playing golf, we’d still be feeling sidelined and hurt by his prioritisation of the golf lads." I can understand that but it shows it's not just about his choice of friend.

From what you have written the scenario as I see it is something like this,

Your father is retired and has lots of time on his hands and your mother isn't able to share his hobbies and interests as she is tied up with caring responsibilities whilst his children and grandchildren have grown up and have got their own lives. He has met a young girl who isn't particularly mature but she shares his interests. She is genuinely interested and will listen for hours whilst he discusses his car and his training in the gym. Granted putting her on the insurance was again insensitive but I assume he would say that you've never expressed an interest in his car or appreciate how high spec it is. That's not a criticism of you, my eyes always glaze over within minutes when men want an in depth discussion about their car.

Anyway your father obviously gets a lot from Tracey and to his credit he hasn't been secretive about her. He has also involved your mother in this friendship which I feel is important.

I guess you all need to work through how he can balance his friendship with Tracey with the families feelings of being sidelined.

Of course I could be completely wrong and Tracey is actually a psychopathic manipulative killer from a Net flicks drama.

I genuinely wish you all luck in getting through this.

DecafGreen · 24/09/2024 17:41

dontsayltb · 24/09/2024 17:26

I would ring the non-emergency police line. They were really helpful when I was worried about my parents being befriended recently. They are in their eighties and had some work done on the house. The builder asked them to show him round as it was so ‘interesting’ which they did. Then he started popping in for cups of tea. I made my parents promise not to give him any more work he may suggest, but they said he was just being friendly.

I Turned up unexpectedly when he was there and he made excuses and left quickly. The next time he turned up my brother was visiting and answered the door. Alarm bells rang when he told my brother he didn’t want to disturb the family, even though my parents were saying there was no problem, he was a friend now etc. but he said he’d come back when they were on their own and asked when that would be.

my parents have no cognitive decline, but are very gullible. And had already shown this man every room in their house. I logged it with the police as they are considered vulnerable and they gave me a personal number to call if he turned up again, and said they would do checks on him in the background. I don’t know if they found anything or just warned him off, but he didn’t come back for his next visit, and my parents haven’t seen him since.

They have no idea I called the police and would be really annoyed if they ever found out. They just don’t understand why their new ‘friend’ suddenly dropped them.

I think if you did similar you may find the police are interested due to your parents age and perceived vulnerability. They need never know you made the call, and if there is anything in Tracey’s background it will be flagged up. If not, at least there will be a record of your concerns and a reference number for you or any of your family to use in the future to add any further information or concerns to.

Good luck. It’s hard to go behind your parents back, but better than living with regret if something happens.

"Age and perceived vulnerability"?

The OP's parents are in their early 60s.

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