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There is no such word as "eachother"...

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niadainud · 25/07/2024 07:35

...or "inbetween", "alot", "ofcourse", "infront" or "thankyou" (or "ect").

I'm probably BVU and I realise this is a forum not a dissertation, that some people are dyslexic and others didn't have the benefit of a good education, that language evolves and that "today" used to be two words and that this isn't Pedants' Corner.

But it's very annoying nonetheless (which is a word).

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Ponoka7 · 27/07/2024 21:54

niadainud · 25/07/2024 07:43

What (or who) defines what "matters" when it comes to language? I culd write a post thats fullof errorrs and non of it reely "matters" but it makes it less eezy to reed.

I could perfectly read what you have written. If the point of writing is to convey information, or make a point, then no it doesn't matter.

Ponkpinkpink15 · 27/07/2024 13:50

niadainud · 25/07/2024 09:56

I see that quite often and assumed it was simply fat fingers. It never occurred to me that it could be autocorrect conspiring against the phone owner!

@niadainud it is an auto correct pita on an iPhone. It does all sorts of weird things. Corrects things that are perfectly fine to the most ridiculous nonsense!

I turned auto correct off, but that's equally annoying. Might try it again this week though 🙇🏻‍♀️

as I've got a bit older, my fingers have got a bit fatter & sometimes miss the letter I want!! 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

Fahbeep · 25/07/2024 20:53

@niadainud you just need to accept that it was considered bad form by MN's founders to critique people's spelling and grammar. Because it discourages posters who perhaps do not have double firsts in English language and literature from asking for help. There's nothing worse than threads were someone is writing about their horrendous experience of DV, and some bell end comes along to inform them on how to use an apostrophe correctly, or to educate them on whatever linguistic infraction they consider more important than the substance of that person's op.

It's not complicated to understand.

SultanOfSwing · 25/07/2024 20:21

Okay, but do you write “alright”? Because when I was a child we had it drummed into us “all right, already; all right, already; all right, already”. We had to write it out over and over so we learned that “all right” was two words, and “already” was one.

Now “alright” is in the dictionary. My youth was wasted…

I really, really think “eachother” ought to be a word - and I bet it will be. It’s a good word! It looks really good as one word…

Elsvieta · 25/07/2024 20:15

I've seen none the less. And abit seems to be creeping in.

Alot is the worst. I mean, where do they GET it from? Do they say ahugeamount or aweebit or ashitload? How can you read anything, ever, and not NOTICE that alot isn't a thing? And how do they get through 13 years or whatever of school without anyone correcting it? Bizarre.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/07/2024 20:04

Emmerald · 25/07/2024 07:59

Everyday appears in the Oxford English Dictionary... 🤔

It's an adjective meaning ordinary, mundane, standard.

Every day, on the other hand is an adverb, meaning daily.

Edited

Every day is surely an adjective followed by a noun?

HereBeFuckery · 25/07/2024 19:58

@jannier

Picking on people's threads because you can is not education you haven't been appointed as MN educator your a self appointed underminer of confidence and deflecting answer to the question ....this thread excepted.

*you're
I didn't claim to be appointed as anything. I pointed out that you are characterising correcting mistakes as "picking on", "undermin[ing] confidence" and I disagree.

Blustering with lots of emotion isn't a response, it's a defence.

Also, I don't do it on other threads, so you are factually incorrect.

Do carry on.

politicalintrigue · 25/07/2024 14:37

perhaps if you didn’t say you find it “very annoying” OP

then you suggesting you are trying to help people by pointing out errors may have a touch more believability about it

niadainud · 25/07/2024 14:20

Datgal · 25/07/2024 14:01

You see it on threads all the time. Someone clearly asking for help, makes a spelling mistake. And some fucker just replying:

*correction

I mean, Jesus. That's not normal behaviour. I think spelling correctly is the least of their problems. But some bastard always does it. It can only mean a power trip for that individual.

I completely agree that that's inappropriate, unnecessary and rather mean.

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Datgal · 25/07/2024 14:01

You see it on threads all the time. Someone clearly asking for help, makes a spelling mistake. And some fucker just replying:

*correction

I mean, Jesus. That's not normal behaviour. I think spelling correctly is the least of their problems. But some bastard always does it. It can only mean a power trip for that individual.

jannier · 25/07/2024 13:30

HereBeFuckery · 25/07/2024 11:00

@jannier
You say 'picking on'. I say 'correcting'. Which of us is right?
(Hint: if it's you, education is no more than bullying).

Picking on people's threads because you can is not education you haven't been appointed as MN educator your a self appointed underminer of confidence and deflecting answer to the question ....this thread excepted.

Topseyt123 · 25/07/2024 12:37

I agree with you, OP.

It also irritates the fuck out of me that my autocorrect comes up with "eachother" every time and wants to insert it. I have to be very careful and insistent that it doesn't.

I understand your analogy about dissertations and the forums here. I'm not going to nitpick.

HereBeFuckery · 25/07/2024 11:00

@jannier
You say 'picking on'. I say 'correcting'. Which of us is right?
(Hint: if it's you, education is no more than bullying).

hairbearbunches · 25/07/2024 10:40

I’d put a £ to a penny that the people who use ‘would of’ probably aren't dyslexic or, if they are, their dyslexia is not responsible for that particular SPAG no-no.

People can spell and write however they wish, but there’s a reason educated folks get better outcomes in their dealings with professionals. Being articulate means one is less likely to be fobbed off. Most of us on seeing ‘would of’ would make a value judgement. It’s just life. Whether we admit that out loud is another matter.

edited: the would ofs auto corrected to would haves 🤣

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 25/07/2024 10:27

I find spelling errors annoying as well @niadainud but as you've seen here, you're actually not allowed to voice that here.

Picking on people spelling and grammar puts people off seeking help if they are never told then why would they seek help? That makes no sense.

jannier · 25/07/2024 10:19

Oh shit I missed a 's on people's I will be forever condensed (condemned) in the eyes of the op and must hand back my degree

jannier · 25/07/2024 10:18

Picking on people spelling and grammar puts people off seeking help and support and is an attempt to claim a superiority based on education and issues of diversity and others SEND. So MN is then only for well educated, first language, English, NT and people with physical news (auto correct from phones on my phone) that don't randomly auto correct as the door bell goes.

Bbq1 · 25/07/2024 10:10

niadainud · 25/07/2024 07:56

Well I've explained and @AlisonDonut has explained, but you're obviously determined to disagree.

Why are you repeatedly asking the same, question @ppoliticalintrigue? It has been answered.

niadainud · 25/07/2024 09:56

mugboat · 25/07/2024 08:49

my autocorrect adds in full stops in the middle of 2 words sometimes 😨

I see that quite often and assumed it was simply fat fingers. It never occurred to me that it could be autocorrect conspiring against the phone owner!

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niadainud · 25/07/2024 09:53

TinkerTiger · 25/07/2024 09:31

If, for example, I hadn't realised it's "toe the line", not "toe the line", and then I read something correcting that misapprehension I would then start spelling it correctly.

But don't you realise that if people have made it all the way through school where they've had constant correction and teaching and still get it wrong, then it must be an underlying issue that it is nonsensical to get worked up about?

I agree it's not worth getting worked up about in the scheme of things, of course. But I disagree that there's necessarily an underlying issue causing all SPAG errors, even where they persist after leaving education.

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TheRakesTale · 25/07/2024 09:50

niadainud · 25/07/2024 07:54

My processing is fine, thank you. Yes, I know we can still work out what is meant relative easily, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that SPAG errors make no difference at all to comprehension. I certainly find they do when I'm reading a foreign language which I'm proficient at but not fluent.

You get scalped for pointing out SPaG stuff. People will scream what about dyslexia/poor reading/2nd language, etc.
Flogging a dead horse, I'm afraid. You will never win on aibu, and in pedant's corner, you are preaching to the converted.
Just silently judge!

niadainud · 25/07/2024 09:36

Fahbeep · 25/07/2024 08:48

Da reson y spell and gramer punch down no allow is dat is way middle folk laugh at small folk so no no. Make u look dick.

Translation: marking people's spelling and grammar on MN is a form of classism (and regionalism) in which one person seeks to assert intellectual superiority over another in a free debate by attempting to assume control over proper language usages. In a free speech forum (across various demographics and cultures) where all opinions are presented for equal consideration, doing this to "win" an argument or undermine another debater is considered a faux pas.

The debater's point is understood the same regardless of its language framing. In fact, some might think it easier to grasp put the first way. And languages evolve. So no one has the right to assert dominance over language.

You are right to an extent about classism and regionalism, but I'm afraid I have to disagree on a couple of points. I'm not trying to win an argument by using an irrelevant SPAG comment - the SPAG comment is the "argument".

Also I don't see how "The debater's point is understood the same regardless of its language framing" can possibly be universally true. What if they mix up "imply" and "infer", for instance? And probably countless other examples where using language incorrectly completely changes the meaning. (I concede this isn't the case if you write "eachother" instead of "each other".)

People (on MN) seem determined to assert that there's no such thing as "correct" use of language, but the same people wouldn't dream of saying "they does" or "I was go to the shops" (just to pick totally random examples).

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HereBeFuckery · 25/07/2024 09:32

@Fahbeep

Da reson y spell and gramer punch down no allow is dat is way middle folk laugh at small folk so no no. Make u look dick.

Okay, I'll bite.
"Da" clearly phonetic for 'The'.
"Reson" obvious mistake, but comprehensible.
"y" - shortcut, makes sense phonetically.
"spell" - gives me pause, could be 'magical spell', not a common mistake to make with the word 'spelling'
"gramer" - does the person mean 'grammar' or 'grandma'?

Already, the writing is obscuring meaning. Writing is communication of meaning, so this writing is not doing its job correctly.

"Punch down no allow" - sorry, you lost me.

As for conflating speaking and writing? Way to miss the point.

TinkerTiger · 25/07/2024 09:31

If, for example, I hadn't realised it's "toe the line", not "toe the line", and then I read something correcting that misapprehension I would then start spelling it correctly.

But don't you realise that if people have made it all the way through school where they've had constant correction and teaching and still get it wrong, then it must be an underlying issue that it is nonsensical to get worked up about?

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