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If you have confident children - how did you do it?

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Tiredsendcoffee · 24/07/2024 23:54

I feel we are in information overload and find myself constantly second guessing everything. My understanding regarding resilience in children is that there are two schools of thought, one is you nurture them and then they feel secure and confident (but on the other hand you might not be pushing them enough). The other is to push them out of their comfort zone so they gain confidence (but that then may leave them feeling anxious and insecure if they are not ready).

My DS has just turned 3 and is becoming more shy and clingy which is starting to concern me. I've tried to introduce changes at a slow pace but wonder if I've been doing the wrong thing.

My AIBU is that there is too much information and it is so confusing, but mostly I'm here for some help with those that have experience. Thank you.

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PeloMom · 25/07/2024 02:11

We nurture ours. However his educators made a point to ask us to let him do more for himself to gain confidence. Kids gain more confidence when they can do more stuff on their own.

theprincessthepea · 25/07/2024 02:05

This is how I parent to ensure I am boosting confidence

  1. who is the child? Don’t go into parenting generalising your child. They have a personality. They have temperaments and they are also learning from you. They are taking things in from their environment. There are elements of them that will be their core personality and you will see that as they grow. There are also many parts of them that will change.
  2. OK now I know who my child is -e.g. cheeky, quiet, love company, enjoys to be alone etc. keep learning with them. The process of you as a parent loving them no matter who they are and no matter their personality builds confidence. My daughter was super shy at 3/4 - all the way until the age of 6. She was selectively mute. I loved her throughout. Yes I did push her to talk, but we also had some of the best 121s. I fought for teachers to meet her where she was and I believe them witnessing us fight their corner adds to confidence (as they grow up be weary of encouraging bad behaviour though)
  3. Find out their interests and invest your time, money or both in it. If they love painting, paint with them. If they like jumping around the house, do a sport etc

3 is still young. My daughter is 12 now and so confident! She will speak to adults and say what is on her mind. But she is shy sometimes and a stropy teen. I would say they throughout her childhood I’ve encouraged her to use her voice in her own way.

Motherrr · 25/07/2024 01:12

Our twins are nearly 3 and so far are totally different with confidence even though raised together. One is more confident physically, going swimming, doing physical activities. The other is more confident intellectually to try new things (like getting alexa to play a song)... we have always encouraged them equally so I think a lot must be personality. And giving them space to go off and make mistakes and fail/fall over etc I think is good for them!

BruFord · 25/07/2024 00:56

mollyfolk · 25/07/2024 00:47

Is it not more that you shouldn’t try to fix everything. Like if they suddenly said that they won’t go to school without their blue socks but they are in the washing machine. They feel sad without the socks. You reassure them and comfort them that they’ll be fine without the socks , you don’t run out and buy them a new pair or keep them home from school.

I always offer an ear and comfort but I don’t try and bend backwards to make the world go their way.

@mollyfolk I agree. One of my friends, who’s a lovely person, is a fixer-type Mum and it hasn’t done her young adult children any favors. They’re now not making good decisions, because they have no idea how to navigate life. Mum (and Dad) have always shielded and rescued them.

I’ve recently heard that the eldest (mid-20’s) is in massive debt and yet again, her parents are trying to rescue her. 🙁

AliceMcK · 25/07/2024 00:52

Right now happy and safe in the knowledge mum is always going to be there for him is all you need to do.

There is plenty of time for you to encourage his confidence.

But understand every child is different, he may never be overly confident, some people aren’t. Even as adults some times all we need to feel confident is knowing we’ve got parents that will be there for us.

Tiredsendcoffee · 25/07/2024 00:52

My DS seems to be a mix of shy and confident which I suppose confuses me more. Can be clingy and shy around new people, but equally will wave and say hello at strangers walking past and often is happy to go up and play with children he doesn't know, even older children. I guess one thing about him is he is possibly more cautious than shy. If there's something he isn't enjoying, do I then keep encouraging him to do it or after awhile if he still doesn't like it, let him stop? I think this is where I am getting the confused in terms of when to push and when to comfort.

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ClickClack300 · 25/07/2024 00:50

Not read the replies though I seen personality mentioned as I was scrolling to give my two bob bits worth

Confidence is a personality trait I would say in general terms. People that are outgoing are considered confident and people that are reserved aren’t considered confident.

That’s not to say reserved people aren’t confident or confident people aren’t shy underneath but how you present to the world (whether it’s an act or not) is how you will be perceived.

mollyfolk · 25/07/2024 00:47

Tiredsendcoffee · 25/07/2024 00:20

@Aquamarine1029 I just saw something the other day where you shouldn't be reassuring your kids and trying to make them happy as then they don't learn to deal with that emotion and become anxious later as they 'fear' being worried or unhappy. But then it also seems counterintuitive as the first thing you want to do is comfort and reassure your child

Is it not more that you shouldn’t try to fix everything. Like if they suddenly said that they won’t go to school without their blue socks but they are in the washing machine. They feel sad without the socks. You reassure them and comfort them that they’ll be fine without the socks , you don’t run out and buy them a new pair or keep them home from school.

I always offer an ear and comfort but I don’t try and bend backwards to make the world go their way.

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 25/07/2024 00:45

3 of my kids are very confident (almost too confident). One is more shy as he’s very sensitive, but he is physically extremely confident. Im not sure if it’s nature or nurture, but one thing I am is quite hands off. I don’t solve their problems for them, I let them climb the trees or the rocks, if they hurt themselves I’m available with hugs but I don’t fuss, if they want to do something I back them up but I don’t helicopter them. I didn’t teach them strangers are something to be avoided, of course they were taught never to go anywhere with strangers but they talk to strangers all the time in the park or on the tube. My eldest has been travelling around London alone since year 7. She is in debate club and debates on stage in front of the whole school, at 15 I could never have done anything like that. We’ve had a few adverse childhood experiences in our family and they’ve come through difficult times with a lot of resilience.

mrlistersgelfbride · 25/07/2024 00:44

Well, it's early days but DD at 6.5 is very confident. She puts herself forward for everything. We went to a magic show the other day and she was front row centre begging to be on stage. At that age myself, I'd absolutely have hated anything like that. I was very shy. My parents were the 'be seen and not heard' type. I was always told to be quiet and not be annoying or boastful. I didn't want this for DD and I've tried to raise her differently saying to be proud of who she is and she can achieve what she sets her mind too.
But it's nothing particular I've done apart from praise her and tell her I love her.
Maybe it's in the genes though. Her dad's side are very cocky 😅

Baseline14 · 25/07/2024 00:43

100% personality for my two. One takes after me, the other takes after his dad. One makes friends in an empty room and is known as a character, would always be the first to put his hand up in class and loves acting. Youngest will barely speak outside the house, very introverted and would never offer an answer even though I would argue he is probably the more capable of the two in a log of ways.

I'm not shy, I find it quite hard to see all the ways his shyness affects him. People constantly assume he is a toddler because he's small and speech delayed. He absolutely hates getting upset in public and holds all his tantrums for the second he gets home. Quite often asks to leave people's houses and go home if he feels overwhelmed

Shartuday · 25/07/2024 00:42

I agree that personality plays a massive part. I think a parents job is to be aware of that personality and provide reassurance, opportunity and security to a naturally quieter, more cautious , shyer child. But definitely not to try make them into something they aren’t.

Theres so much pressure for children to be visibly outgoing, chatty joiner-inners. It’s absolutely fine not to be like that though . It doesn’t mean there’s a problem, there’s been some deficient parenting etc. And children can be confident in some situations and cautious and more wary in others. Same with adults. I can join an interest group where I know no one with no difficulty, but the thought of going to a party where I know very few people absolutely terrifies me and I’ll not go unless I absolutely have to. I can be assertive in some situations and find it very hard to speak up for myself in others. We are all a mass of contradictions.

Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 25/07/2024 00:40

Both mine were pretty clingy as children, or rather, they preferred the people they knew and cried loudly with anyone else, til around pre-school/school starting age. I just let them be like that, separation anxiety seemed pretty normal and one wasn't great at going to pre-school either.

Once they got a bit older, so 5/6 upwards, I would say both were a lot more confident, one thing I've always done is get them to speak for themselves, so if we went out, they had to order off the menu themselves politely, same for asking for an ice-cream, if they didn't ask themselves I wouldn't do it for them which seems a bit harsh but it's important for children to start to interact as independent at a certain age (I think they were about 6 upwards for this), They are both extremely talkative, loved dogs, so would ask people if they could pat their dog and got used to interacting with new people.

I also think modelling confidence helps, but letting them know everyone gets anxious or worried before a new thing, or a big event or performing and that doesn't mean you don't do it, but that it's ok to be worried about how you come across and still have a go. I get nervous sometimes still myself, I don't want them to think that being confident is just a personality thing because it isn't, it's a set of skills that people can get better at even if they find it not as natural or a bit more anxiety inducing than others. You can learn to be a good speaker, or present well or make conversation for the most part.

EmoCourt · 25/07/2024 00:37

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2024 00:21

It's impossible to parent two different child the exact same way. It simply doesn't happen. The children are different people. One is an elder sibling, the other is the "baby." You are a different person when you have your second than you were as a first time parent. Every child in a family has their own unique upbringing.

Absolutely. It’s what can make adult sibling relationships so complex — you each had different parents, and a different upbringing.

OP, I agree entirely with a pp who says modelling confidence, letting your child see you trying new things, and failing without it being a catastrophe, are all key. I’m the eldest child of two timid, frightened people who were afraid of anything new, terrified of authority, reluctant to do anything for the first time etc. My mother was always forcing us to do things, and clearly longed for cheerful, competent, outgoing children, but as her main message to us was ‘the worst thing that can ever happen to you is to stand out in a crowd’, it’s not surprising she produced anxious, shy children.

It took me years into adulthood to unpick all those ‘the world is just waiting to get you’ and ‘you’re going to fail, and everyone will laugh” messages. I’m a confident adult, but it would have been easier not to have to work so hard.

BruFord · 25/07/2024 00:33

I have one confident extrovert (DD, 19) and one shyer introvert (DS, 15), but he’s getting more confident.

I agree with PP’s that creating a secure base is important (my parents struggled to do that due to physical and MH problems and it definitely made me more anxious because I couldn’t be sure whether they’d live or die at times-and I I had no one to share this fear with ).

Also talking to them and empathizing when they’re worried or feeling insecure. That doesn’t always mean shielding them from challenging situations, it’s more advising them on how to cope with them. My DS, for example is intimidated by certain louder, more confident people at school so we’ve discussed how he feels and whether, tbh, he’s actually interested in being friends with them. Often, his conclusion is that he’s not really so he’s fine with his real friends!

I also stress that everyone has their own path in life and you need to figure out yours, rather than compare yourself to others. That’s why DD is confident, she isn’t bothered by what other people are doing, she’s got her personal trajectory. She also accepts that she can’t be friends with everyone or please everyone all of the time.

I suppose what I’m saying is encourage them to develop a strong sense of who they are.

HeddaGarbled · 25/07/2024 00:29

Don’t mistake extroversion and risk-taking for self-esteem. A child can be shy and risk-averse whilst still having rock-solid self-esteem if they know that it’s absolutely OK to be themselves and not be pushed out of their comfort zones to conform with the “this is the best way to be” expectations of random relatives, teachers and peers.

Wedoourish · 25/07/2024 00:25

Personality is the main decider. My youngest is 100% the most confident. Decent schools also encourage independence and confident parents help !

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2024 00:24

Tiredsendcoffee · 25/07/2024 00:20

@Aquamarine1029 I just saw something the other day where you shouldn't be reassuring your kids and trying to make them happy as then they don't learn to deal with that emotion and become anxious later as they 'fear' being worried or unhappy. But then it also seems counterintuitive as the first thing you want to do is comfort and reassure your child

You can reassure your child without trying to force them to be happy. You can reassure them that being sad, angry, disappointed, embarrassed, etc, is a perfectly acceptable way to feel, and when they can identify those emotions and why they are happening, they can then learn how to manage them.

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2024 00:21

daffodilandtulip · 25/07/2024 00:17

I've parented my two the exact same. 18yo is outgoing, confident, resilient. 15yo is scared of everything, won't speak to strangers and can't cope with change. I think there's only so much you can do.

It's impossible to parent two different child the exact same way. It simply doesn't happen. The children are different people. One is an elder sibling, the other is the "baby." You are a different person when you have your second than you were as a first time parent. Every child in a family has their own unique upbringing.

Tiredsendcoffee · 25/07/2024 00:21

Thanks everyone for the replies, and apologies in advance for overused words like resilience and anxiety, but just wanted to use common terminology

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Tiredsendcoffee · 25/07/2024 00:20

@Aquamarine1029 I just saw something the other day where you shouldn't be reassuring your kids and trying to make them happy as then they don't learn to deal with that emotion and become anxious later as they 'fear' being worried or unhappy. But then it also seems counterintuitive as the first thing you want to do is comfort and reassure your child

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KickHimInTheCrotch · 25/07/2024 00:19

I've always thought that having a secure attachment to parents/suitable adults allows children to go out and explore the world with confidence. Knowing without question that they are loved and have a secure place in the world. It's not about always catching them when they fall but striking the balance between comfort and challenge eg learning to ride a bike because someone is encouraging you to do it but knowing they'll still love you if you can't do it or need extra practice.

daffodilandtulip · 25/07/2024 00:17

I've parented my two the exact same. 18yo is outgoing, confident, resilient. 15yo is scared of everything, won't speak to strangers and can't cope with change. I think there's only so much you can do.

parietal · 25/07/2024 00:17

My kids were v shy at that age and still shy in general. But they are confident within domains where they have practice, so travelling on public transport (London kids) and academic work.

I think a secure base is very important. If a child knows they have a secure adult to come back to, then they can go explore.

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2024 00:17

Nurturing your children and making them feel secure is key, obviously. However, I think the art of allowing your children to fail and learn from mistakes is quite lost in this world of modern parenting where everyone gets a trophy just for showing up.

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