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To hope I get pregnant even though my partner withdraws?

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JambalayaFan · 24/07/2024 22:23

Me and my partner are in a bit of a strange situation. We own our own home, plenty of savings and a very happy stable relationship. He’d like to wait a couple of years to TTC as we are considering emigrating to where his family lives in 2 years, and the emigration process will obviously be more costly with a baby. I on the other hand would like to start trying ASAP as endometriosis/infertility runs in my family on both sides (several aunties never managed to get pregnant, I have loads of lovely adopted cousins). For this reason, I experience great anxiety about any sort of contraception as I so want to become a mother and don’t want to lower the chances when it may already be a struggle.

We have a great relationship and have no trouble discussing things, and we came to a deal. Our deal was that we won’t TTC yet until he is ready but we’ll do the withdrawal method. He accepts the high risk of pregnancy and agrees if it happens we’ll keep the baby. It may seem odd to many but for us it was a fair compromise. He isn’t quite ready to TTC yet but understands I may not have the biological clock that most women do and therefore I don’t want to mess around with my fertility. I know non-hormonal contraception exists, but it’s also about not wanting to miss chances to get pregnant. I haven’t pressured him into anything, he’s welcome to use condoms if he wants but he does know my feelings on the situation and we came to this solution together. I’m sure many reading this are judging but I promise, we have a very healthy relationship. This situation has come from a lot of discussion between me and my partner. It can’t be compared to a situation where woman lies about being on the pill to get pregnant. I was honest with my partner about wanting a baby.

anyway, the reason I am posting is I am curious if anybody has gotten pregnant from the withdrawal method? If so, did he pull out last minute (so he came as soon as he pulled out and didn’t have to touch himself)? Or is he ejaculating with plenty of time to spare? Me and my partner are doing the first one. Feeling a bit disheartened because a few friends and my mother have told me they did pull-out successfully for years, which isn’t good to hear when I’m wanting it to fail!

OP posts:
BeeDavis · 25/07/2024 07:53

I am curious if anybody has gotten pregnant from the withdrawal method?

How old are you?! The only people I knew that ever did the withdrawal method were 16 and stupid.

wellno · 25/07/2024 07:53

It all sounds a bit nuts tbh.

janeintheframe · 25/07/2024 07:53

Op this is googleable. About one in five get pregnant on the withdrawal method, four in five do not.

i will comment though, what an odd way for you both to behave over something so important as bringing a child into this world. Very immature.

ChampagneLassie · 25/07/2024 07:46

Ah my DP wasn’t ready to have a baby and we were using withdrawal and I like you was desperately hoping it failed. This was a very sad lonely place to be suffering the disappointment each month and unable to share it. ❤️I’ve successfully used withdrawal method with 3 men over long term and then successfully fell pregnant quite quickly when actually trying. My best friend fell pregnant the only time her and her DP did it. I suspect that the differential has to do with the men, whether there is pre-cum, their ability to control etc I think you should talk to your DP again about the fertility issues. How important having children is to you etc

RosesAndHellebores · 25/07/2024 07:46

If you are ready for babies why not just nip to the register office before autumn, emigrate before Christmas and get on with it.

In my opinion, although I doubt it will be welcomed, if you aren't financially secure/ready to emigrate now, you aren't ready to have a baby. Once a baby arrives it is unlikely you will feel in a position to emigrate but I suspect your DP will.

Muffin101 · 25/07/2024 07:46

This is such a terrible idea. Clearly in your head, you basically ate ttc, only you’ll be doing a very half-arsed job of it and therefore, if you get pregnant, it will take some time, and cause a lot of upset for you, and none at all for your partner who doesn’t particularly want a baby (now? At all? I’m on the fence despite what you’ve said!). You’ll have differing reactions and feelings about this whole process and I expect will find the other persons stance upsetting and frustrating. Either ttc properly or don’t, but this is a terrible middle ground.
Also you ought to be taking folic acid really, for at least three months prior to pregnancy.

Katemax82 · 25/07/2024 07:41

My husband and I were using the rhythm method and I'm now pregnant

Sexisthairdressers · 25/07/2024 07:38

From bitter experience, waiting to TTC is not a good idea if there are any possible infertility issues. I'd have a serious conversation with your partner about it, get on the same page and crack on.

Callmemummynotmaaa · 25/07/2024 07:35

Op I’m the poster whose story you don’t want. Similar history to you, knew ttc could be harder for me. Met and married young ish and had long open chats with dh from my early twenties. We ttc for a while in our mid twenties after some health issues - unsuccessfully tried for 2 years. It was beyond tough. Prelim IVF investigations. As a couple we agreed to take a break - no cycle tracking detailed shared, just back to us, sex when we wanted too, as we wanted too, withdraw and see what happens. Given age, life stages and openness withdrawal initially suited us. 3 years no babies. In the beginning it worked and was lovely to take the pressure off! But over time - DH remained optimistic, my stress levels rose each month as the time went on. The stalemate of open but not trying was harder to navigate than the open conversations about wanting babies and being emotional.disappointed about it. In hindsight we were both tying to hide from potential hurt and it wasn’t helpful.

Did a round of IVF drugs in late twenties, and started the next phase for me of getting pregnant but having losses (from early to mid pregnancy). We started to think about life, without our own kids. Moved countries, jobs, built a life as us. Stayed ttc but trying to let it dictate less of our decisions daily (if that makes any sense).

DC1 was born in my early thirties, DC2 15 months later (a welcome surprise, not TTC), DC3 2.5 years after that (was TTCing for this pregnancy since DC2 was 8 months).

theworldsmad · 25/07/2024 07:33

We used the pull out method and didn't get pregnant. (The first one you described)
Granted we only used it for about 8 months before we wanted to have a baby, so it's not all that long though

Neurodiversitydoctor · 25/07/2024 07:25

TemuSpecialBuy · 25/07/2024 03:18

My friend and her boyfriend used withdrawal method and she wanted a baby and he said he did in the future…
she got pregnant 3 years in and was delighted she’d now have a “proper family”

he suggested an abortion and I listened politely to the drama and said if she wanted the baby she should be prepared to be a single mother…she didn’t want that but she “knew” he’d come round because he “loved kids” and “wanted a family”.

more drama throughout pregnancy…he worked a lot “for when the baby came”
he got his shit together a bit at the end and was there for the birth.

he left around 4months after baby was born, she had to go back to work at 5/6m as she couldn’t afford to live otherwise…

the baby is 2 and he has him Sat midday to Sunday 9am every other day and pays absolute legal minimum. She is fucking miserable hates her life and complains all the time about how she has no time, money, etc etc and spends her time wishing her child was asleep.
it’s desperately sad.

She might be more sad to be 41 and childless after years of fertility treatment. We can't all have the fairy tale sometimes you have to choose the least bad option.....

LAMPS1 · 25/07/2024 07:23

You both sort of want a baby but he doesn’t want to actually plan a baby for two more years. That sounds confusing and unreliable and a bit tricky on his part. Why two years ?

You are both already settled….own the house and have savings together and get on wonderfully, but want to wait two years to move and to plan for a baby. Again, why the wait ?

You have concerns that you have enough reason to be facing fertility issues once the two more years of imposed withdrawal contraception is up. He knows there may be fertility issues facing you but weirdly, he sees that as a reason to wait for two years. That doesn’t make sense. You should be concerned about this and know exactly why you have to wait.

You are both from the EU and want to move to another EU country in two years which is relatively simple and not like emigrating to Australia. You have already learned the language. It doesn’t take two years to plan and do the admin to move within the EU. Why not make the move now ?

If, as you say, having a baby makes the move from EU country to another EU country more costly, (does a baby really make that much financial difference if you are already comfortably off ?) why not move now, before the two year wait for the baby?

You have good career enhancement opportunities in the country where he wants to move to in two years. So doesn’t it make sense to move asap, get established in your career and then have the baby asap. Why put that off for two years ?

Everything points to getting on with your life right now, especially if your biological clock is ticking faster. But there is this two year wait problem that he is dictating and which you are only half heartedly going along with because you are already stressed about your fertility chances and can’t bear to use contraception. He must have a really good reason for that two year wait but what is it ? Are you only in your early/mid 20’s …you won’t say and that makes this difficult.

Don’t plan / hope for an accident OP. That’s foolish.
Instead, get to the bottom of his two year wait.

As for your wish for anecdotes, yes, trust me, it definitely happens, especially somehow when you don’t want it to.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 25/07/2024 07:21

AGoingConcern · 24/07/2024 23:07

You're using the withdrawal method and hoping it fails with someone you're not married to who says he doesn't want to conceive just yet? Why have the two of you not married? Are you happy to raise a child as a single parent?

Edited

Oh my god the people clutching their Pearl necklaces “but you’re not married how can you both be committed together and have a baby”!! This isn’t the 1950’s, you don’t need to be married to be committed and some people just don’t believe in it anymore! And that’s ok! 🙄

AquaLeader · 25/07/2024 07:20

OP, you sound very immature.

If you do have endometriosis/infertility, you are very unlikely to become pregnant using this method. If you become pregnant, you are unlikely to have the problem in the first place.

Only move to this country if you’d be happy living there as a single mother. Once your child is resident there, you won't be able to leave with the child without his permission.

It's unlikely that you will have the social insurance contributions to access support. Will you be able to fully support yourself there?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 25/07/2024 07:18

LadyMinerva · 25/07/2024 01:22

Alternatively, get him drunk and he'll probably forget to pull out.

You know that's called rape and entrapment, right?

Wow how on earth is that rape ?

JustCantBeBothered · 25/07/2024 07:15

Lots of judgement on here. OP I understand where you are coming from. I have 3 kids now. Number 3 was a "we aren't planning but if it happens that's great!" situation as I also didn't want contraception (and it was OUR choice) but he was pulling out. I fell pg within 3 months. She's 2 soon!! Absolutely no regrets. That said I think we knew it was probably likely. My 2 DC were conceived within the same timescale from deciding to ttc, so we may be lucky with fertility. Did have a MC in-between though.

So I guess short answer is - it could well happen, but you know that, purely because there's no contraception!

Btw we had a registry office wedding when I was very very pg with dc1 with 4 guests. We also don't like weddings!! Best decision ever. Had a lovely mini break after. Job done. Been together over 20 years for anyone that feels the need to say something...

Apollo365 · 25/07/2024 07:13

I got pregnant twice using the withdraw method.

notacooldad · 25/07/2024 07:12

After having two children we used the withdrawal method for 26 years. I've still got two children!

Workhardcryharder · 25/07/2024 07:07

Cherubs4 · 24/07/2024 22:32

1st, 2nd and 4th child were conceived like this. All a beautiful (and welcome) surprise.

Sorry but if you got pregnant 3 times from such a tiny (almost negligible) bit of sperm then your husband is bloody terrible at pulling out 😂

HoppingPavlova · 25/07/2024 06:51

@321user123 Do you realise the average woman takes at least 8 years to be diagnosed?Many go 15 years before having a diagnosis. Also, endo can be painless or asymptomatic

What on earth does that have to do with OP though? From all of her (presume her by the information given) information there is nothing to suggest endo. You could use the ‘asymptomatic’ for any woman saying she should try at 20yo as she doesn’t know if she has asymptomatic endo or not, which isn’t really how it should work🥴. The only aspect OP mentions is that some people in the extended family suffered infertility and endo, however seemingly not immediate family and indeed not her mum who feel pregnant first time each time on trying and her grandmothers on both sides obviously had kids so, it seems a bit of a long bow and probably a bit of a ‘thought I’d throw it to DH as a fact as men know nothing to try and convince him as a reason for something I want’ as opposed to any valid medical concern at this point., or likely at all.

BlueMarigold · 25/07/2024 06:39

If 100% don’t want kids we are told that the withdrawal method is unreliable. That means it is possible to get pregnant that way.

TheRakesTale · 25/07/2024 06:29

The withdrawal method is likely to get you pregnant. There is 'ejaculate' as part of the process prior to 'full' ejaculation. That's why so many womeen in religions that forbid contraception still end up with hoards of kids

Ceramic272 · 25/07/2024 06:29

Theothername · 25/07/2024 06:21

My concern is that this will be brutal on you emotionally. You want a baby. Every period that arrives will be a disappointment. Trust me, that gets head wrecking very, very quickly.

And he doesn’t have a clue. I think his reasoning and logic are sound. But he hasn’t taken on board the emotional weight of this decision on you. Which frankly doesn’t speak highly of his empathy skills or his concern for you.

If you cannot conceive in a few years time how will you feel? Do you think the relationship will survive the resentment? If you break up in the meantime will the time you’ve had together be enough of a consolation? What if he breaks up with you to have the dc he wants with another woman?

I’m aware I’m being completely one-sided here, but he is asking something huge of you. What is he offering in return?

I’m not completely up to date on the differences between marriage and civil partnership - hopefully you are, and also on the differences in divorce outcomes in different EU countries? I do know that marriage offered protections to women and children that should be carefully considered before dismissing them. And as someone who dreaded my own wedding, I still think there is something to be said for being willing to stand in front of each others family and friends and publicly make a commitment.

So I’m asking again, what exactly is he offering here?

You and I are at different life stages here and one of the shocking things about peri menopause is the clarity when oestrogen drops and your vision isn’t hazy. Mother Nature has us drugged up through our fertile years to overlook a lot of male shittiness. But in your case, the love gaze might work against procreation.

He absolutely should not have dc with you if he doesn’t want them, or isn’t ready. No one should. But stringing you along, forming this non-decision compromise, eschewing meaningful commitment, leaves you putting your fertility and mental well being at risk. Honestly, I’m questioning his maturity to be either a husband or father, but then he’s not trying to be either - just a boyfriend.

Fully agree with this. Im probably around OPs age, struggled to get pregnant (actively trying) and had no identifiable fertility issues at all in me or my family. It was a crushing process and the only real support you’ll have is each other. You and your partner need to be either fully in it together or not - otherwise it’s going to crush you and your relationship monthly.

Obviously if you have a quick “happy accident” then that point won’t be an issue.. but there will be so many other issues around his commitment, the move, the stress of pregnancy, etc…

Theothername · 25/07/2024 06:23

To answer your question - I didn’t get pregnant from withdrawal. But first time ttc, both times. Sorry.

Ceramic272 · 25/07/2024 06:22

Ngl this all sounds quite immature and naive about the realities of TTC. So you want a baby but not the pressure of actual TTC with tracking etc.. and he wants a baby but not for two years.. so your solution is to do this halfway house that technically shouldn’t result in pregnancy (or at least will lower your chances) but you’re hoping still might?

What if you don’t get pregnant (entirely possible) - aren’t you going to think you wasted a full two years when you could’ve been trying properly? If you really thought your fertility was as bad as you claim, I don’t believe for a second that you’d want to take that risk. I suspect you’re on the fence because even though your relatives have struggled, your mum got pregnant pretty instantly, so you know that’s a possibility too.

You should get testing to see how both of your fertility stands, and then take it from there. I think you need to also remember that even with perfectly good fertility results, it can still take many months to get pregnant without assistance. Faffing around with withdrawal method just sounds like a waste of time. I’d either commit to actually trying (which you should both fully accept may or may not work) or just don’t.

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