Greater Manchester Police brutality

Perhaps we should get bots to do the job. I can understand the anger at having your colleagues violently assaulted. It’s not ideal but I can understand it in the context and judging by the percentages at least half of us can.

This incident has turned racial which is a hug concern which is a huge concern as the protests show,

I actually think the only way this could be put to bed, either way, would be an official jury trial.

Good luck trying to find a jury who have no preconceptions about it though!

Agreed. Full context must be understood & not trial by social media / mob rule.

I have actually changed my mind on this. I think we need to see the whole video for context. I think people are fed up of seeing our society being increasingly violent and violent scum getting soft sentences (although the perception of increasing violence could be because of prevalence of filming incidents). But police seem to be decreasing in quality and effectiveness and no excuse for that violence. Due process needs to take place which has started with policeman being suspended. People in the community of all races should not use this as an opportunity to shit stir.

"The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said it was arranging to interview the Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officer under criminal caution "as soon as possible" over the alleged assault on Tuesday."

From the BBC. Hopefully they do the right thing and prosecute him with gusto.

And are commonly known as criminals

Well, not nose broken but I've seen someone very close to me get punched hard enough to knock her down. In what followed, despite the opportunity, nobody got their head kicked or stamped on. He was restrained, the police were called, he was arrested. The police that arrested him also didn't stamp on his head.

Some in this thread would have you believe that not stamping on someone's head is an unusual act of self restraint. Whereas I reckon anyone who's ever been exposed to violence would recognise that move for what it is. The only people that think it's a good idea are 10 pints deep and can be found outside a Croydon night club.

This stamping on somebody's head is totally beyond me.

I used to work in criminal law and have watched so much sickening CCTV footage of out of control thugs kicking and stamping on someone's head, often causing life changing injuries and sometimes death to the victim. We need to be able to trust our police officers not to act in the same way. We cannot ever tolerate a police officer acting like this. It is vile, disgusting, and inexcusable. Yes policing is a very difficult job, but for an officer to act like this in public makes me very, very concerned about what is going on behind closed doors.
It is so depressing that every few weeks there is another report in the news which gives people less faith in the police. Abducting, raping and murdering women, taking photos of murder victims, racism, violence, police brutality, the list goes on and on and on. It is just not acceptable. We need to demand better standards than this.

I mean it’s a pretty primitive argument isn’t it?

Yes, I can see that and it is very disturbing. Basically what some people are saying is it is ok to do whatever you want to a criminal. If someone hit, killed or stole, you can come up to them and do whatever you want because they are bad.

@user1492729177 I have . In a school. Or beaten black and blue. Or with crack ribs. Funnily enough i never kicked any of the kids responsible in the head.

Do we know for sure how the officer's nose was broken? I am not speculating on things which I have not seen. I know for sure that I saw a prone man, lying on his front, being kicked, and then stamped on the head by a person, who is meant to uphold the law though.

Interesting that the man in question was released shortly after being arrested without charge isn’t it?

Also, you think it’s acceptable, or even safe, for an armed Officer to act violently due to adrenaline? Scary!

I have!!

In a school.

I didn’t find it appropriate to kick the little shit in the head there either.

So the police should have freedom to behave however they want, even with extreme violence, and the public who they are there to protect should just keep our mouths shut?

No thanks. I will continue to demand professionalism from authority figures in trusted positions. Or at the very least, for them not to break the laws they are there to uphold.

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

I suppose like the vast percentage of the population I've never had dealing with the police ( apart from one incident in Manchester City Centre) So I'm sort of neutral.
I do think the job attracts a certain type of person and promotes a certain culture.

Do we know that Police officers were actually assaulted and actually injured? We only have the word of a force known for dishonesty.

@Sunshineandpool I know there was a fight and that's why the police attended. I know a fight broke between the police and a number of suspects. I know police officers were injured. I know 4 men were arrested with one of the charges being injuring emergency services personnel.

I have no idea how that man was involved, the extent of his involvement, whether he actually harmed anyone (including the officers etc) . I don't get where posters are getting their info that they can state with such certainty who he assaulted and how and what injuries he caused.

I don't believe that happened for a minute. The police are well known to lie about these kinds of things to try and get sympathy after being violent. They like to pretend they got assaulted even when said person was handcuffed!!

This is utterly sickening. These thugs are actually armed police!

How are we meant to respect the police when we see over and over they are thugs and racists and murderers? I have no respect for the police at all. My own experience is of them being lazy, ignorant and aggressive.

If this officer is not jailed it will be a travesty. He could have so easily killed the young man.

The story I read said there was a row on the plane between the older lady and some bloke, who then shunted her with his trolley later at baggage collection.

Then later in the terminal she pointed them out to her son's who'd come to collect her, argument started, police got involved, ending in the videos we've seen