Greater Manchester Police brutality

You beat me to it….edited to add, again, fucking hell.

They were literally incapacitated while being tased on the floor

Tasers do not incapacitate people for more than a couple of seconds. By the time the man hit the floor he would have been ready to get back up again with no ill effects whatsoever. He starts to move in the video, you can see his head moving.

He was obviously not being reasonable or compliant & I expect he's delivered far worse brutality on other people. Personally, he got what he deserved - the Police have a hard enough job anyway without edited 'highlights' skewing what was most likely a very difficult situation for them. I don't have sympathy for thuggish criminals.

Ah I've got it now, we need to better educate lawyers in this Country.

How do you know that the violent criminal wasn't going to take the officers gun and shoot people, what was his state of mind at the time?

@MyGladEagle I don't think we are talking about the same incident.

There is nothing to suggest that anyone tried to take an officers gun to shoot someone.

The kick was not given to someone whilst they were violently out of control. They were literally incapacitated while being tased on the floor.

I'm not an expert in disabling violent criminals. I'm a lawyer. Should those men be convicted (I hope they are) then the court will look to mitigating factors and aggravating factors in determining an appropriate sentence.

back yards and all that…eh @rosiers

What is it you would like to see happen here then?

If you're in a situation where someone is about to take an officers gun and shoot you, would you like the police officers main concern to be what measure of force is the most fair on the person about to do that?

What is it that makes you think erring on the side of caution when applying force to someone that's violently out of control has a successful outcome? Are you an expert in disabling violent criminals?

Agree

And what is this shite about a cyst. That solicitor is a stirring shite

@MyGladEagle my point is purely procedural and based in fairness. Either you look at the controversial kick in isolation, or you look at the context. But you cannot pick and choose which context you can be arsed with.

If we're going to consider the state of mind of the officer in order to mitigate their actions, we should be considering the state of mind of all involved.

Again, I don't condone the violent perpetrators. They are a disgrace. The assault on the police was disgraceful. But there is more to this, and it should all be investigated.

I think the use of ‘force continuum’ settles this matter

I know a few police officers and they do face regular violence but it is usually drunks taking a swing at them or offenders struggling during an arrest. It is not usually someone pummelling them repeatedly in the head after they have pulled their taser. It is not someone doing this at a high-risk terrorist target.

@Janiie they won't though. There's still plenty of virtue signallers on here still giving their support to them. I despair.

@eggplant16 what is stupid? That I can’t help the fact I’ve never met a Muslim woman who’s condoned violence against other women? How is that stupid?

'Poor split second judgement and a gun sounds like a worrying combination.'

Hardly as he didn't shoot him did he .

They'd suffered a sustained violent attack, so what if he lashed out at the end. So what.

I hope all the defenders of the poor 'brain cyst' violent thug go on twitter to retract their support for the absolutely awful scum.

I actually think the media and politicians should be banned from using the word 'community.'

@Gummybear23 great update from you. Now that the unmotivated racial brutality line has been shut down they can go down the mental health route. Most likely caused by living in such an awful intolerant country such as the UK. Dear god

I do wonder, had the female police officer hit her head and died after the vicious punch, the male officer then been choked to death because she wasn't able to get up and taze the suspect, what you would be saying?

It's rather peculiar that you're so concerned about what an officer does when his and his colleagues life is being put on the line. Are you planning to go around viciously attacking people and putting their lives in danger, and hoping that you get treated with the utmost duty of care when you do it?

How stupid. Have you spoken to many?

Released on bail, so charges are standing. And as for source - today’s video is good enough source. Those thugs were out of order and I hope the police officer gets back to his duty, while those two are jailed on multiple criminal offences including the unprovoked attack on Police.

As people point out the police face violence every day in their jobs, and arrest violent criminals on the regs.

They mostly do it without stamping on people.

Like literally every day, maybe even every hour there's a copper somewhere, wrestling some scumbag to the ground and putting themselves in danger. And not stamping on anyone.

Kicking and stamping (and later spraying the people against the wall, interesting it was all the same guy, was he still riding the wave then?) is the story. Police doing normal police things, scumbags doing normal scumbag things, isn't a story, it's a daily occurrence.

I get some people don't care what happened to the guy on the floor and I feel little sympathy for anyone that fights and then gets a kicking. My issues are with a highly trained armed policeman that apparently gets a bit extra and emotional in dispensing what is unfortunately a likely part of his daily duties. Poor split second judgement and a gun sounds like a worrying combination.

@Getonwitit which community?

I am so not sorry that these violent thugs that attacked the police got a kicking. Too many males of a certain community think they are untouchable, time they understood they are not.

*talking. Not walking

The "community" came from the media when walking about meeting with them

Quite why the police would need to is another matter.

Those "protesting" are troublemakers

Didn't realise they were police? Christ almighty have you ever seen armed airport police? They stand out a mile? Why would anyone who is not a police officer be patrolling with large firearms?
Stop trying to make bloody excuses