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Seen wonderful karma at work today

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Redgreenfroggy · 24/07/2024 20:56

In London at the moment. Went to the Tower of London today, sat outside and as usual loads of pigeons.

2 lots of parents sat there laughing and filming their little darlings chase and kick out at the pigeons. One of the boys made contact with one. Just as I was about to open my month to have a go at the parents another pigeon flew over the dad’s head and did the most perfectly aimed shit that landed right on his bald head.

dad then stands up shouting dirty bastards and then realised quite a few people were laughing including myself and my lot. I was creased up. He and his family very quickly leave. The most funny thing was it was down to his own that the pigeons were flying all over in panic

Beautful Karma. Can anyone beat this with their own experience of Karma at work

OP posts:
DollyBrolly · 25/07/2024 13:26

Itsallabouttea · 25/07/2024 12:51

Absolutely. These are living creatures trying to make their way in the world like anything else. They're not 'vermin' and it's not cool to let your kids scare them

So are rats. So I'm sure everyone on this thread treats them with the utmost gentleness if they see one scurrying towards their bin / kitchen door / pushchair 🙄
The pigeons in my town primarily congregate in a particular area right next to a busy (but 20mph) road. There are constantly buses, delivery trucks, loud motorcycles etc lumbering loudly past. Not to mention the innumerable cats and urban foxes that actually pose a threat to them. Anyone who thinks they are in the least bit frightened of my toddler wobbling towards them burbling "bir! bir!" has never seen a flock of pigeons lazily rise up in front of an over-excited child and then settle down 2 feet away.

Pigeons are famously smart. They know what is and isn't a threat to them, and they definitely don't give a shit about little kids that don't have a hope of catching them.

JoeGrundyWasMyRoleModel · 25/07/2024 13:25

Feral pigeons are not vermin. However they are declared a pest and can be culled

”Culling pigeons to reduce flock sizes is rarely successful unless access to food is restricted, otherwise population numbers soon recover. This should only ever be done as a last resort and in accordance with a wildlife licence (general or individual) issued by an appropriate government department. ”

https://bpca.org.uk/a-z-of-pest-advice/bird-and-gull-control-get-rid-of-birds-and-gulls-bpca-a-z-of-pests/189183#pigeons

Pest advice for controlling pigeons, gulls and other birds

https://bpca.org.uk/a-z-of-pest-advice/bird-and-gull-control-get-rid-of-birds-and-gulls-bpca-a-z-of-pests/189183#pigeons

Shufflebumnessie · 25/07/2024 13:25

I have never understood why people allow their children to torment/abuse pigeons. It makes me so angry and I have shouted at many who do it.
We were waiting outside the Natural History Museum a couple of months ago and the number of children chasing / deliberately trying to kick them was ridiculous. My 2 were asking why other children felt the need to do that and to be so cruel (they are by no means perfect, believe me, but at last they know the difference between right & wrong, and how to treat other living creatures!).
Your karma story is brilliant!

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 25/07/2024 13:21

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Good. Maybe the kids will learn that if they behave like little shits they will miss out on nice things.

Flumpie59 · 25/07/2024 13:21

Killing myself laughing here! Good on the pigeon! Serves the ''parents'' right!

They're not ''raising their children to be respectful'' but dragging up the shitty moronic brats to be vicious animal abusing psychopaths!

I love pigeons!

Portakalkedi · 25/07/2024 13:21

PotNoodleNancy · 25/07/2024 12:53

FFS! The poor ground down parents = utter bollocks.

The parents wanted a cushy life so didn’t put the effort in at the beginning when the kids were toddlers to ensure that their children know where the boundaries lie. They’d rather their teachers parented them.

Don’t give me SEN either. My kid has SEN but he knows not to be cruel to animals although he never needing teaching that one as he has a natural affinity with animals as they all seem to automatically love him.

Well said. Probably the same parents who can't be arsed to bring up their children to eat proper food, then whinging about how difficult it is when the little darlings will only eat chicken nuggets/other crap item. Well maybe if you hadn't brought them up that way.. so much poor and lazy parenting and then expecting somebody else to sort out the problems.

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:21

I have a family of crows that I've befriended in work. Every lunch time they get one of my crisps (Not each, they get one between them and Boss Crow decides who owns it).

I've been wondering just how much they recognise me, or whether they're this friendly with everyone who sits near them with food.

Anyway, two days ago I'm sat on my usual bench eating my lunch. They've already had their daily crisp so they've dispersed a bit, when a family with a small child comes near, and the kid starts running towards the crows, roaring.

Next thing I know I've got 5 crows all huddled around my feet and under my bench. I was well chuffed to realise that they see me as one of their own.

Funkyslippers · 25/07/2024 13:21

Nanny0gg · 25/07/2024 13:05

I also have no sympathy for the idiot tourists who get nipped/shoved/bitten by the Kings Guards' horses

I was thinking that it would have been good if the horse in a certain very recent video had given his trainer a firm kick as a taste of her own medicine!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:19

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/07/2024 13:13

A bad thing for children not to be somewhere to fuck up the enjoyment of everyone else who is there? Really?

As for your other comment: are you so rude by the light of nature, or did you have to do evening classes?

I am as rude as so many of you come across to the people you are shouting at in the street. So sure you are right. So unaware of anything those people might be going through. So unable to keep your inner thoughts quiet. Karma is coming for the judgemental and self righteous so don’t be too pleased with yourself.

Mogwais · 25/07/2024 13:16

Never understand the mentality of people who defend cruelty to animals whether by participating, encouraging or idly standing by while their little angels are doing it, we have a town full of pigeons & we see acts of cruelty everyday, those that defend it are simply teaching their kids if something is smaller than you, more defenceless than you or you just don't like it, then you have free reign to hurt or scare them, what great sociopaths their creating.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/07/2024 13:13

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:04

Apparently, according to a random judgemental previous poster, it’s a bad thing for the children. Scroll up and keep up.

A bad thing for children not to be somewhere to fuck up the enjoyment of everyone else who is there? Really?

As for your other comment: are you so rude by the light of nature, or did you have to do evening classes?

MrsWinkly · 25/07/2024 13:09

I needed this thread today OP!
Had a bizarre unwarranted public bollocking from a horrible local yesterday for absolutely no reason.
Was too confused and humiliated to say a word at the time, but have been lying in bed all night going through what I wish I'd said.
Decided that I'll be nice as pie next time I see her and just hope I'm there to witness karma in action when it gets her.
Some people are just rank twats!

GoingUpUpUp · 25/07/2024 13:08

I cannot bear the awful, flappy bastards. They seem to aim for me when they are flying like they know I hate them.
However, I don’t allow my DC to chase them, or any other wildlife.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:06

Cursieputed · 25/07/2024 13:05

You appear robust enough to argue with others here

I agree with the majority: keep kids under control or keep them away

I keep them away. I said that and was criticised for it.

RJS.
Random judgemental Stranger.

Nanny0gg · 25/07/2024 13:05

I also have no sympathy for the idiot tourists who get nipped/shoved/bitten by the Kings Guards' horses

Cursieputed · 25/07/2024 13:05

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:00

Again slow hand clap to you getting it right whereas other scumbags like myself just fuck it up right, left and centre.

You appear robust enough to argue with others here

I agree with the majority: keep kids under control or keep them away

newcatmam · 25/07/2024 13:04

I also saw a pigeon related karma a few weeks back. We were at a city centre, pigeons everywhere and we do love all animals so hate any form of chasing, cruelty etc. Anyway, I could see a few teenagers who were showing off to their friends and lunging at the pigeons a bit further up the street from me, I'm walking towards them ready to give them a piece of my mind when one of them went to lunge and fell face first onto the ground. Im not sure if he had tripped on a loose paving slab, his own feet or just over balanced but everyone near him was laughing at him and a few people said thats what you get for chasing pigeons :) Beautiful.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:04

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/07/2024 13:02

And such children not being taken to places where they are a complete pain for everyone else who is there is a bad thing why, exactly? For everyone except the one parent, I mean?

Apparently, according to a random judgemental previous poster, it’s a bad thing for the children. Scroll up and keep up.

Nanny0gg · 25/07/2024 13:03

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 13:00

Just because an animal is vermin doesn’t mean harassing them is okay. What a vile attitude.

I said they're vermin and I stand by it

I also said I won't harm them or stand and watch others do it

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/07/2024 13:02

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 12:41

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Edited

And such children not being taken to places where they are a complete pain for everyone else who is there is a bad thing why, exactly? For everyone except the one parent, I mean?

janeintheframe · 25/07/2024 13:02

The average iq of the population is actually quite low, which means millions below that low benchmark,

quite frankly they are thick.

PuttingDownRoots · 25/07/2024 13:02

For context... we have bird feeders, trees with nests, fences... plenty of places for birds in our garden.

But we put Anti-bird spikes on top of the children's swing (one of those big wooden ones) to stop bird poo on the seat.

A lovely, plump wood pigeon came into land sideways on the swing with enough momentum to knock the spikes directly off the swing. Hot day, so glue was soft.

That was definitely one to the birds that day!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 13:00

Ponoka7 · 25/07/2024 12:54

Those children then need other people to tell them how to behave in public because otherwise they are heading for real trouble as teens. If those parents aren't leaving the house because they can't manage their children they need intervention. And yes, I've got two ND and was widowed with three children and left skint.
I worry that eventually we won't have wildlife left. Again yesterday a motorist killed a whole flock of geese. There's stories of non stop damage and cruelty now the children are off school. Our changing weather is killing off wildlife and farm animals. We need anti social/litter/wildlife laws being upheld.

Again slow hand clap to you getting it right whereas other scumbags like myself just fuck it up right, left and centre.

SharpOliveHam · 25/07/2024 13:00

Just because an animal is vermin doesn’t mean harassing them is okay. What a vile attitude.

WigglyVonWaggly · 25/07/2024 12:59

Pigeons are the loveliest, gentlest birds. They never attack or threaten unless people are horrible to them. The ones in my garden let other birds steal from them and they share their food with smaller birds. We cut down their trees, pavement over their grass and shrubs and then somehow hate them for wandering around on the ground searching for food. That man deserved a poo in the gob.