To think it’s completely and utterly unacceptable for men to compete in women’s sports?

Who are the 4% who think the OP is unreasonable???

Question: How many transmen compete in men's events - vs transwomen who try to muscle in on women's sports events ?

Maybe look at the situation in the U.K. rather than in the US where they’re all mental anyway. Most sports governing bodies in the U.K. have got a handle on this: there are no men competing in sanctioned women’s competitions and games in cycling, swimming, triathlon, rugby and many other sports. The real outliers are football, cricket and hockey where this remains a problem. Pressure from athletes, sponsors and funding bodies needs to be kept up on those governing bodies to follow the examples set by rugby and cycling.

Please don’t look at the insanity that goes on in the US and imagine that it is representative of the rest of the world because it’s just not.

I get that but why should they give up their life’s work and sacrifice because the hurty feels of an entitled bloke takes priority over every single woman?

The daily mail has many many faults but it’s been the one man outlet to shine a light on the issue and lets its readers see with their own eyes whats going in

She’s been in role 3 weeks. Amazing she’s had the retrospective power to write existing rule books for international sports organisations that don’t report t9 t(e U.K…

Well looks obviously have everything to do with it, duh! It's men dressed up and trying to look like women. It's not men looking like men wanting to compete with women is it.

That photo says it all. The winner with his cock and balls on full display but claiming his lady feelz make him a woman and therefore he’s entitled to compete in the female category.

Literally no one with eyes and a functioning brain can think that’s ok surely?

I just think the women should not compete . It's totally unfair to have men in women's sport .

This is a fantastic interview with Riley Gaines, an American swimmer who was forced to compete with Lia Thomas, a 6 foot 4 man in swimming competitions. They were forced to share changing rooms with him and were not allowed to speak out about it. She also talks about the hard work and discipline it takes to get to that level. For that all to be taken away by a mediocre male is just enraging.

she's since become a v effective and inspiring advocate for women since then. V admirable young womsn.

they would look out of place playing a "man"

Why? WTF have looks to do with it?

Why is this a problem for women to solve?

Men have a physical advantage over women in almost every sport, we have women's competitions so that there is space for us in elite sport. I have no interest in which category men who say they are women compete as long as it's not the women's category. They can compete with their sex or develop their own category.

Men who compete in women's sport are cheats.

@Theeyeballsinthesky The one with the massive appendage stands out, but the other 2 less so.

They can certainly compete against other males. Don't forget that one of the most famous transwomen won gold in the Olympics decathlon - an event which isn't open to women.
Maybe that means they have to make hard choices about when to have various treatments, but women athletes frequently have to make hard choices around sport at the highest level vs motherhood.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13660579/transgender-athletes-female-Washinton-cycling-championship.html

please explain how those people circled would look out of place cycling against men

Yes, they should. Because they’re men.

And the double whammy is that if Transmen did attempt to compete in men’s sport the Testostrine they take would count as doping and disqualify them.

No one who has been through make puberty should be in women’s sport.

The bone and muscle mass, heart size and blood volume are forever changed. The way the proportions of limb size, shoulder width, pelvis contribute to greater strength…all different .

But the need for Transwomen to be in women’s spaces is now more important than anything women might need or achieve.

I love Martina and Sharron. Amazing women. Good on them.

Look at the abuse women who speak out have got? JK Rowling obviously but former sportswomen such as Sharron Davies and Martina Navratilova have spoken out and been inundated with abuse

Sporting organizations don’t necessarily rate women, they often have their own misogynist ideas. They could change this if they wanted. Some have.

Women’s sports is a huge part of feminism. It is a massive fuck you not just by trans athletes but a lot of men full stop.

Totally agree, it's utterly shameful, the men competing are cheats. But what's worse is all the organisations that are allowing it.

Even when offered an open category they don't want to go in it

#bekind

apparently

it reminds me of little kids pretending to be a princess or train driver or whatever and everyone goes along with it. Knowing it’s nonsense. And yes these are grown men who seem so deluded I feel sorry for them oddly.

💯 but don't forget we have to #bekind (but only to those mediocre male athletes that want to steal medals from the opposite sex to make themselves feel good, fuck the actual women athletes that lose out 🙄)

no one is saying trans ppl can’t play sport but they need to compete against members of their own sex. Trans women can compete against men because that’s what they are

They're outcasts sadly. They may have been born men but they would look out of place playing a "man" and equally they're not accepted by women given the many reasons on this thread. Its a shame really as I dont think most are going through the trans process solely to win sports (though maybe some are??)

It's a fucking joke

Some sports do have mixed versions eg hockey has an official mixed version - 5 men, 5 women and a goal keeper of either sex. Despite this a number of university sides are fielding “women’s” teams including TW ie men. Those men are not being barred from playing hockey, they have a mixed version if they really don’t want to play men’s hockey but that’s apparently not good enough for them

no one is saying trans ppl can’t play sport but they need to compete against members of their own sex. Trans women can compete against men because that’s what they are