To apply for DLA for DD when we have a household income of over 300k?

The new government has promised better training for jobs. Perhaps this is an opportunity for you all on here to make your feelings and experiences known.

They probably think more in terms of increasing the number of apprenticeships, such as trades. What this country needs is to tap into the experiences outside the trading skills.

One thing that stands out in elections and on the news is that you hardly ever hear anyone say that the children of today are those to run the country in the future. Those who bring up the children are bringing up the future rulers of industry and it is industrial effort which is needed. They promise to increase the wealth of Britain: how?

Thank you. I was not familiar with it, because my benefit stayed at DLA, so I didn't really take all that much notice. Too many people do that, unfortunately.

I doubt MPs know much about it. It shows that the country is run by civil servants, because MPs only know what the civil servants tell them..

It’s not just the fact that study is expensive, or that parents of disabled children cannot afford to provide for them if they study. It’s the fact that caring for a disabled child in very many cases is a full time job in itself, and also that many of these parents have to work as well to make ends meet. There are only so many hours in a day and caring for someone disabled is exhausting.

Yep, I remember that. My own mum got an increase in pension credit at that time. She was claiming standard rate AA at the time because of physical disability. That didn’t make any difference to the amount of her pension credit, but she had a fall which worsened her condition and after she was awarded the higher rate AA her pension credit increased again. The letter from DWP stated that this was because she had been successful in the AA claim. It was quite a substantial increase too.

If she was entitled to Pension Credit of £23 before her stroke, what happened to increase that by three times to £100 a week? If there was no change, then she should ask for a backdate,

What happened was clearly explained by this poster. Her mother became entitled to the higher rate attendance allowance when she developed disability due to stroke, so any pension credit in payment would be increased accordingly to account for increased costs of that disability. The award would have been backdated to the date AA was first awarded. She wouldn’t be entitled to any backdating of increased pension credit beyond that because she wasn’t entitled to it.

Not all claimants are entitled to receive it, BUT they are all ENTITLED to apply for it, and if they are turned down, apply again and again,

This would be a complete waste of time unless something had changed between applications.

DWP carry out an assessment of a claimants’ disability, including a face to face interview where necessary. An assessors’ report is provided to the decision maker and benefit is awarded based on the report and any other evidence the claimant provides. If benefit is refused or the claimant thinks it’s not awarded at the right rate, then they can appeal, firstly by asking the DWP to look again at the decision and then by going to tribunal if they still don’t agree with the decision.

lf benefit is still refused there is absolutely no point in reapplying and going through the whole stressful process again unless something is different from the last application, because you will just be refused again as you still don’t meet the eligibility criteria.

I’ve read through this and it doesn’t change anything l’ve said in the post you tagged. A change of circumstances after retirement age which means that you no longer qualify for DLA would result in the claim being closed. There are no new claims for DLA for anyone over the age of 16 so if you needed benefit again it would be attendance allowance.

l understand what you’re trying to say about hospital treatment but the care/daily living components of disability benefits like PIP, DLA and AA are meant to contribute to the cost of care. When you enter hospital or LA funded care home, the state is taking over your care, so the continued payment of disability benefits would effectively mean the state contributing twice. State pension doesn’t stop on hospital admission and neither does pension credit. They are income replacement benefits and are not related to the provision of care. Some other related means tested add ins may be suspended while in hospital and restarted on discharge.

You also questioned the pension credit. If a pensioner who is on pension credit starts to claim the enhanced rate of AA pension credit will be paid at a higher rate to reflect the extra cost of disability.

l was a disability outreach worker before l retired and l’m also severely disabled myself so l’m well acquainted with the benefits system. All of the above information is in the public domain and in my experience claimants were well aware of the effect of hospital stays on their benefits. Don’t know why you’d think it needs a proclamation from the BBC.

Depends on the disability. The eligibility criteria for PIP is totally different from child DLA. It’s a working age benefit and much harder to claim. Just because a child has qualified for child DLA doesn’t mean they will automatically qualify for PIP.

As an example of the difference between DLA and PIP, when PIP was introduced in 2013 and DWP started to migrate existing DLA claimants on to the new benefit, thousands of claimants lost benefit because they were ineligible for PIP. Thousands more had the level of benefit reduced because they no longer qualified for the higher rates of payment under PIP.

"special children"?

I admire you and all parents of disabled children. I think they are very brave. I think our benefit system is far too complex. All who go through it's punishing regime deserve better.

All parents of disabled children have already so much knowledge that if there were special grants for parents with special children, they should be given free opportunity to study for a course of study which will give them qualifications, and a new career.

The problem is that study is so expensive that many people who have infinite knowledge of children with disabilities cannot afford it AND provide for their disabled children.

To my mind there is a need for the Government to provide college places for any parent of a disabled child to take for free, because they are the future, where they have a qualification which will open doors for them. Of course it could be that parents of disabled children don't want to make that their profession. On the one hand I don't blame them, but on the other, they are the most experienced people to teach others how to be carers and how to plough through the rules..

The stroke may be coincidental to the raising of pension credit. I remember a few years ago when it was revealed that some women pensioners were being paid less pension than they should have been.

What part of what I posted do you consider nonsense? I have to assume you are right, but I would like to know how your mother's pension credit was raised and her AA was raised. I can understand the raising of the AA, but surely if your mother's income entitled her to receive pension credit of £23 a week, then after her stroke it was increased to £100 a week, is puzzling.

I have to admit that I know nothing about family/pension credit benefits. You surprise me. Only if her income was lowered would she have received such an increase in pension credit.

If she was entitled to Pension Credit of £23 before her stroke, what happened to increase that by three times to £100 a week? If there was no change, then she should ask for a backdate,

I wish I didn't have to argue. The Acts may have been repealed at times, but not to the extent you say. All the information is available on google.

Under what circumstances would a disabled person over 60 have their DLA taken away and reduced to AA?

Copied and pasted from the web:

If you are aged 18 or over, payments you get of Disability Living Allowance (DLA), Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Adult Disability Payment Scotland (ADP) and Attendance Allowance (AA) will stop after you have been in hospital for 28 days. If you are under 18 on the day you enter hospital, your DLA, Adult Disability Payment Scotland or PIP payments will not stop.

If your DLA, PIP, ADP or AA payments stop, they will be paid again as soon as you come out of hospital. You will need to tell the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) or Social Security Scotland that you have left hospital. If you come out of hospital but have to go back in within 28 days, your benefit will stop again as soon as you are staying in hospital again. You will need to tell the DWP or Social Security Scotland you have gone back into hospital.

If you were living in a care home before going into hospital and payment of DLA care component, PIP daily living component or AA had stopped, you will not be paid when you go into hospital. Also, after 28 days in hospital, payment of the mobility component of DLA or PIP will stop.

If you have a car through the Motability scheme, you should tell Motability if you are likely to be in hospital for more than 28 days

Your State Pension doesn't change, no matter how long you're in hospital. But some payments are suspended if you're in hospital for more than 28 days: Attendance Allowance. Disability Living Allowance.24 Jun 2024

Pension Credit is paid for an indefinite period, as long as the other conditions of entitlement are still met. Some additions and allowances may be affected, such as Severe Disability Addition, Carer's Addition and Pension Credit housing costs, depending how long you're in hospital for.

NOW TELL ME THAT DISABLED PEOPLE DO NOT PAY FOR NHS TREATMENT.

TELL ME THAT the hospital staff who constantly complain to the media that horrid nasty elderly people are hogging NHS beds and preventing other people from getting NHS treatment by being there, are JUSTIFIED.

When have you ever heard anyone on BBC TV talk about the elderly and disabled who have to give up benefits to pay for the bed? They are blamed for being in hospital without just cause. No one tells the public it is costing them money that is given back to the Treasury while they are selfishly ''hogging the beds''.

Patients hogging beds because there is no one at home to give them domiciliary care. There would be plenty of carers if they were paid properly.

If someone working full time is not paid enough to keep a roof over the family's heads and food in their bellies, then no matter how much the house is better than a wooden shack, nor how much better the food is, THEY ARE STILL SLAVES of the people who pay them.

If carers are paid enough money to live on, there would never be a shortage of care workers.

I know my youngest son has severe autism and learning disabilities he's 14 and has always been educated in a special school his school caters for children with severe and profound learning disabilities they focus on working on their pupils independence and getting them to reach their potential whatever that might be
When I was 16 I had work experience in a day centre for children and parents and ironically most of the children had similar needs to my son ,many were not in school and the day centre as helpful as it was seemed to be the most parents could access for their children this was in the late 80,s not sure ,when this changed and all children had a right to an education. 0

It took a very long time from a lot of dedicated people to enable disabled children with impaired mental ability to be able to stay on at school after 16. It was not always so.

If they think he does not qualify, at least you would have tried. You have not ignored your child's RIGHT to benefit that he needs.

If you claim it and he is worthy of it, then you have done the right thing, not only because of the money, but because it is his RIGHT to the benefit.

What is also important is the RECOGNITION that the child is disabled and justly entitled to it. There are some very nasty people who resent anyone who receives benefit. Not all claimants are entitled to receive it, BUT they are all ENTITLED to apply for it, and if they are turned down, apply again and again, and NEVER let the taunts of the critics get you down. (if I used bad language, I would put the common term for it.)

You are absolutely right, they don't. When I punctured the small front wheel of my wheelchair, I was charged EXACTLY what the mobility component of DLA is.

The new batteries for my power chair were £450 7 years ago. A power chair cost more than a car.

Last month, because my bed was high I didn't realise I had done myself an injury to a part I don't feel (gave myself an episiotomy, I had to find a low profile nursing bed. A new one is over £2,000 without the VAT, which I don't pay, so it was either asking for one to be supplied, or buying a used one, and since the forms to apply for anything need a college degree, I searched for a used one and found just the one at an affordable price. Then I asked a disability company if they could collect it from one county to another. They said they would - at a price. That turned out to be £600 ex VAT. I don't pay VAT on items for disabled and their delivery and maintenance cost.

IT IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW some companies who sell disability aids plump up the price because they know we don't pay vat. IT IS WHAT DISABLED PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH and pay for on the DLA - now renamed PIP unless you got it before they changed the name.

They sent an invoice. I said I want to know what that invoice actually covered, and they said it covered the cost of bringing it to me and the services of two trained engineers to put the bed together. The distance between the two points was 1hour and 48 minutes - 98 miles. In the event, it was brought by a retired age man and a boy, and they spent the first hour ringing round to find someone to show them how, even though the instructions were there. I had employed one of the men who had cleared the room of furniture before I found a new bed, and thank goodness I did, because he asked me if he could take the invoice out to the man and boy because they were not expecting to put it together!!!

I managed to find an almost new mattress made by the same bed people and that cost £64 to bring from London by a very nice company I found on Shiply.

The intension in posting this is more as a warning to those with disabled children and adults, than bore you or seem to be vociferous, because I would never again pay a disability company all that money to transport.

I could tell you so much about the cost of being disabled.

It depends on the disability for example most children with type 1 diabetes would qualify for DLA because theirs a lot of extra care ,but when reaching 16 most children would be fairly independent in dealing with it themselves and PIp is,all about canba persons do things independently, I have looked into as my 17 year old was diagnosed last year but I dint think he would meet the criteria
On the other hand I know a few kids who have complex needs but never got the highest rates alof DLA ,move to PIp and get enhanced on both.

This thread is showing up the complexities of the benefit system far more clearly than a debate in Parliament. I am sorry if my use of words is incorrect. At one point I did correct it in another immediate post, though not immediate enough to edit it. I remember thinking at the time, that someone is sure to correct me. I was right.

I bow to your superior knowledge. Perhaps I do not use the correct term: 'roll over'. I suppose I should have said that if they are entitled to DLA when they are under 16, then they should be able to get the PIP after age 16.

If you are saying that some children are deemed not to need non-means tested benefit once they pass 16 and that benefit is withdrawn, it is a shocking state of affairs.

Under what circumstances would a child over 16 be refused benefit after 16? I know it is called PIP instead of DLA, but I would think that to refuse a child PIP there would have to be a good reason, surely?

@Rosscameasdoody enhanced of both PIP components or HRC/HRM DLA nowhere near cover the average costs. Those figures are after taking into account disability benefits.

Have just had a look. That’s a real eye opener - so even the higher rates of both components of PIP don’t cover the actual cost.

Ah right. On threads like these I often link to Scope’s disability price tag research here to show just how expensive having someone with a disability in the family is.

No, absolutely agreeing with you.

I was about to say much the same thing. It’s really depressing to see how much ignorance there is around disability, the true cost of living with it, and the prejudices that still prevail. It’s a universal benefit and the only qualification for claiming it should be disability.

I haven’t posted anything to the contrary.