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To apply for DLA for DD when we have a household income of over 300k?

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Milesandmilesandmiles · 24/07/2024 16:14

Just that really - we have an autistic daughter who needs support with most things (although is in mainstream school). Between us DH and I earn over 300k, so we don’t need the money. However, conscious that we won’t be around for ever and we could save it for DD’s needs as she grows. But is this what state benefits are for?

OP posts:
Twodozenroses · 24/07/2024 20:08

If you’re going to use it on dd due to her disability then claim

dont claim it if she doesn’t need the money for anything and end up saving it- that’s not the point of it. If her needs don’t end up costing you any more money then I don’t see why you’d need to claim. If her needs do cost you more money then you should claim.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 20:07

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 20:01

I’m disabled and don’t claim - wouldn’t think to try. I spend around £30+ a week on my disability - but I consider the care I get via the NHS to be more than enough as far as the country providing for me is concerned, so I’m happy to meet the other costs. Life will never be exactly equal and trying is a road to bankruptcy.

If you have extra expenses connected with your disability and you don’t claim, it’s not altruistic because no-one benefits just because you’re not claiming. And there will be people on the thread whose disability expenses are far in excess of your own, and for whom even the higher rates of benefit are only a contribution - they won’t cover the full cost. Obviously I’m not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of what is a personal decision for you, but I don’t agree with it.

nextdoornightmares · 24/07/2024 20:05

I claimed DLA for 2 of my children and saved it because the nature of their reason for qualifying for it (home oxygen) didn't actually result in many extra monthly costs really. But at the end of the day they were assessed as being entitled to it just as your daughter is. The application forms don't ask about costs. They ask about their health which is what it is based on not financial reasons. You could perhaps save it and use it to make a large purchase that may benefit her in future so she doesn't end up in a situation where she has too much in savings to qualify for other financial assistance.

pam290358 · 24/07/2024 20:05

Otherstories2002 · 24/07/2024 19:50

No he doesn’t - DLA stops at 16.

Do the maths. PIP was introduced to replace DLA in 2013, so her DB would have been 17 at the time and already claiming the benefit. The age 16 rule was introduced for new claimants and it’s taken years for DLA claimants to be migrated to PIP. Migration is still taking place so it’s entirely possible that if DB had an open ended award he could still be claiming DLA as he hasn’t yet been migrated.

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 20:01

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:55

But if you means test it someone will always lose out. Means testing is a race to the bottom where disability is concerned. How do you means test a benefit meant to cover extra costs ? There are so many variables it would vastly increase the administration costs.

I’m disabled and don’t claim - wouldn’t think to try. I spend around £30+ a week on my disability - but I consider the care I get via the NHS to be more than enough as far as the country providing for me is concerned, so I’m happy to meet the other costs. Life will never be exactly equal and trying is a road to bankruptcy.

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 20:00

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:58

These are IFS figures. DWP stated that the figure is more like 2.6m. Sunak was taken to task about using the figure of 3.2m in his controversial speech and it was stated soon after that it was incorrect and had counted DLA to PIP migrants twice.

With entitlements increasing by 300,000 per year the difference of 600,000 isn’t a huge gap. The numbers came from DWP. In either event they are terrifyingly high and rapidly increasing.

DeadbeatYoda · 24/07/2024 19:59

I have two DS's that would qualify. 1 is very physically disabled and life is very much more expensive for him. 1 is autustic but has received good help in state school. I claimed for the physically disabled son but not for the autistic one. I felt that I could cover any extra costs for the autistic one on my £50 k income. The pot is finite. If I was on the £300 k I would not have claimed for either child.

Sdpbody · 24/07/2024 19:58

Absolutely claim it!!

You must be paying close to £120k a year on tax between you.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:58

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 19:45

Figures from DWP, not the government.

Read this

https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/number-new-pip-claimants-has-doubled-year

Is this sustainable?

These are IFS figures. DWP stated that the figure is more like 2.6m. Sunak was taken to task about using the figure of 3.2m in his controversial speech and it was stated soon after that it was incorrect and had counted DLA to PIP migrants twice.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:55

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 19:54

Yes but other children are born to skint parents.

But if you means test it someone will always lose out. Means testing is a race to the bottom where disability is concerned. How do you means test a benefit meant to cover extra costs ? There are so many variables it would vastly increase the administration costs.

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 19:54

Otherstories2002 · 24/07/2024 19:51

You don’t know what equity is. In this case she is disadvantaged compared to another child born into such circumstances. DLA is not means tested for a reason.

Yes but other children are born to skint parents.

PAYEohYEAY · 24/07/2024 19:53

Calamitousness · 24/07/2024 19:46

YABU. I could’ve applied for one of my children. I didn’t because I could afford not to. He’s my child. If I need to pay for more one to one tuition or lessons to help him then that’s what I did. I’d never claim a benefit like that for a child if you can afford their daily needs not to. It’s our job as parents to meet their needs. Why should the state be funding your child. Your job.

So, you wouldn't accept for example free nursery hours..because you can afford not to?

Otherstories2002 · 24/07/2024 19:51

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 18:56

Her DD has enough, she’s been born into wealth and privilege. This isn’t equity, it’s greed.

You don’t know what equity is. In this case she is disadvantaged compared to another child born into such circumstances. DLA is not means tested for a reason.

Otherstories2002 · 24/07/2024 19:50

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:41

My DB gets DLA - he's 28 and has an indefinite award since the age of 11 - so not necessarily.

No he doesn’t - DLA stops at 16.

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 19:50

Calamitousness · 24/07/2024 19:46

YABU. I could’ve applied for one of my children. I didn’t because I could afford not to. He’s my child. If I need to pay for more one to one tuition or lessons to help him then that’s what I did. I’d never claim a benefit like that for a child if you can afford their daily needs not to. It’s our job as parents to meet their needs. Why should the state be funding your child. Your job.

Because some of us who have children who will need a lifetime of care. Meeting academic standards means nothing. And that’s not natural, it’s not what’s expected when you plan to have children - you don’t have them thinking ‘well I’ll have to figure out a way of earning enough to pay for us until I die and beyond as well as making sure that their needs are met like that of a young child for the rest of their natural life’. If all your child needs to be independent is a bit of extra tuition, sounds like DLA wasn’t for them anyway.

x2boys · 24/07/2024 19:49

Whammyammy · 24/07/2024 19:47

Doesn't matter what your income is, claim it for your child
Didn't David Cameron claim for one of his children when he was PM?

Not when he was PM as he had sadly passed away by then but yes he did claim for his profoundly disabled son.

Simonjt · 24/07/2024 19:49

Emmanuelll · 24/07/2024 19:38

And if the country is skint then blame the Tories for feathering their own nests and squandering taxes on vanity projects.

Yep. When we lived in the UK my husbands specialist physio alone cost £800 per month, all in all his disability was costing about £1,300 a month, thats an entire wage after taxes. But apparently we were greeding for accessing financial support we were entitled to to slightly ease the financial burden of his disability.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:49

AvrielFinch · 24/07/2024 19:45

I think DLA should stay. But Access to Work is to help people access and stay in work. DLA is to do everyday living.

Access to work is completely different from DLA/PIP. It’s not a cash benefit but looks at the practicalities of keeping someone in work. A benefit like PIP would be able to keep someone with, for example, severe mobility problems, in work by the mobility component paying for a Motability car so they can travel to and from work, where perhaps it would otherwise be too difficult. Access to work is a good scheme but it has its’ limitations.

BrumToTheRescue · 24/07/2024 19:48

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:46

I actually think this poster means PIP. He would have been migrated to PIP by now. Most of the people still claiming DLA were over 65 at the time PIP was introduced and were left on DLA until either their award ran out or they had a change of circumstances.

Maybe not. A minority of working-age adults on indefinite DLA awards are yet to be transferred to PIP.

x2boys · 24/07/2024 19:48

Calamitousness · 24/07/2024 19:46

YABU. I could’ve applied for one of my children. I didn’t because I could afford not to. He’s my child. If I need to pay for more one to one tuition or lessons to help him then that’s what I did. I’d never claim a benefit like that for a child if you can afford their daily needs not to. It’s our job as parents to meet their needs. Why should the state be funding your child. Your job.

How do you know your child wouldxhave been eligible if you have never claimed?

Miley1967 · 24/07/2024 19:47

Well 64% of voters think op is being unreasonable but doesn't appear many of them have commented on the thread.

Katemax82 · 24/07/2024 19:47

Dla is not means tested and is for you to use as you see fit. Go for it

Whammyammy · 24/07/2024 19:47

Doesn't matter what your income is, claim it for your child
Didn't David Cameron claim for one of his children when he was PM?

Calamitousness · 24/07/2024 19:46

YABU. I could’ve applied for one of my children. I didn’t because I could afford not to. He’s my child. If I need to pay for more one to one tuition or lessons to help him then that’s what I did. I’d never claim a benefit like that for a child if you can afford their daily needs not to. It’s our job as parents to meet their needs. Why should the state be funding your child. Your job.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 19:46

BrumToTheRescue · 24/07/2024 19:43

While there are some working-age adults with DLA awards still, new claimants would not receive an indefinite DLA award. At most, it would be until transition to PIP.

I actually think this poster means PIP. He would have been migrated to PIP by now. Most of the people still claiming DLA were over 65 at the time PIP was introduced and were left on DLA until either their award ran out or they had a change of circumstances.

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