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Do I have a right to be annoyed?

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somewhatmiffed · 24/07/2024 15:49

Two sisters
Anne - 55 years old, single, owns a house with 120k outright, works 30 hours a week,
Sue- 42 years old married with 3 kids, two are now adults one is a child and severely disabled. Have a mortgaged house £150k. Works very part time due to youngest needs.

When their mum died she left her share in the the house to their dad and bequeathed money to Anne and sue (50k each ) and each the grand kids (20k each) The adult twins got their money direct, the younger child's money went in a account for him. The twins were 18 at the time so they bought driving lessons/cars and did a gap year travelling plus some designer hoodies.

Dad has a mirror will so when he dies his children get 50k each, grand kids 20k each. The house has been left to Anne and Sue and any remaining funds will also go to them.

Anne has at times expressed annoyance at this seeing it as Sue getting 60k more. She feels it should be split 50/50 and then Sue give from her share.

Recently dad mentioned changing his will so it's split 50:50 to Sue and Anne. He asked Sue what she thought, she said it's his money , his choice but the twins would probably be upset as they have been previously told about the inheritance (by their grandmother)

Sue knows that Anne has been saying something as it's not something dad would just think of.

Also to mention Anne lives other side of country and visits 3 times a year. (Although does ring weekly) Sue cares for her dad - shopping/paying bills etc. visits a couple times a week, grandchildren probably see him around once a month.

Is Sue right to be annoyed for the Will is changed?

OP posts:
Whammyammy · 24/07/2024 20:09

Squabbling over your dead dad's money...while he's still alive.

ToofHurty · 24/07/2024 20:06

my sister is actually financially more comfortable than us

Yes people who have no children generally are.

She might argue that your choice to have children mean that you and your children are going to ultimately benefit at her expense.

JelloOfInfiniteFest · 24/07/2024 20:01

My dad gave all his money to a Dogs' Home (not Battersea) and left his house to a neighbour who looked after him.

I would quite like not to be in the financial crisis I'm in now, but what he did with his money/property was entirely up to him.

Towelmode · 24/07/2024 19:58

I guess it has bothered me because my sister is actually financially more comfortable than us. My disabled son will need life long support which is me and dh and eventually my twin boys. It feels mean that she's trying to change dad's mind to better her position at the expense of my children.

Most people who don’t have dc are better off because dc are expensive. Do you think your disabled son should receive more inheritance than your other dc? DH is the only one of his siblings with dc, it would never cross my mind that our dc would get some inheritance.

Towelmode · 24/07/2024 19:54

And if people are castigating Anne for being "grabby" then so is Sue in arguing for her DC to have the same inheritance as from their grandmother.

agree.

Towelmode · 24/07/2024 19:52

I think 50/50 to children is fairest. The grandchildren already have got a decent sum from the grandmother.

somewhatmiffed · 24/07/2024 19:49

So yes I'm Sue. To clear up a few points-

I have never raised the topic of the Will with dad. Mum and dad told me, my sister and my boys the plans for inheritance just before mum died. It gave mum a lot of comfort to know finances were sorted and she was adamant we were to receive our inheritance from her when she died (partly incase dad remarried)

Anne has discussed the will with me in the past (saying it's unfair we get more than her) and dad has mentioned before Anne said to him she felt it unfair grand kids inherit from 'her share' So I'm fairly confident this change of heart from dad has come from her. I have not discussed it with Anne at all.

My boys are not 'grabby' they were told at 18 years old by their grandma they would shortly inherit 20k each and receive another 20k later down the line. I did make a point of explaining that anything could happen and they may not get the money. When I said they would be hurt it was more about the change of heart than the money. If it had never been said to them in the first place it would matter far less.

I guess it has bothered me because my sister is actually financially more comfortable than us. My disabled son will need life long support which is me and dh and eventually my twin boys. It feels mean that she's trying to change dad's mind to better her position at the expense of my children.

I agree it's dad's choice and nothing to do with us.

OP posts:
ChimneyPot · 24/07/2024 18:42

I don’t understand the Mumsnet obsession with children inheriting equally especially in situations like this where one child is providing a lot of care for the widowed parent and the other lives at a distance and rarely visits.

HateMyselfToo · 24/07/2024 18:39

I think the Dad should spend it ALL now as he sees fit, spoiling them if he wants, but not leaving anything for them to fight over.

daliesque · 24/07/2024 18:39

It should always be left directly to the children in my opinion. Unless each child has exactly the same number of children of similar ages and no plans to have anymore, one family is always going to get more than another.

However, with the twins obvious greed and entitlement to their grandfathers money, I'd be tempted to leave their share to the cars home.

YellowAsteroid · 24/07/2024 18:35

We were in a similar position. FIL went 50/50 in the end. Meant siblings aren’t as close as they were, now.

So @Anewuser am I reading you correctly - you don't think it was fair that your FiL divided his estate equally between his children? And now your DH is distanced from his siblings? Is that correct?

YellowAsteroid · 24/07/2024 18:33

It felt like he was being rewarded because his family was receiving 5/7 of this amount. She had also made some mention of my brother needing the money more than I do - he didn't, he is no worse off than I am, but in any case, you never know what is going to happen to people in the future.

However, when my parents died, they had left their estate divided equally between my brother and me. It comforted me at the end - their will was their last message to us and it showed that they loved us equally.

Totally understand this, @kittylion2 Money & wills can feel like a sign of family regard.

And if people are castigating Anne for being "grabby" then so is Sue in arguing for her DC to have the same inheritance as from their grandmother.

VolvoFan · 24/07/2024 18:31

Dad can do what he wants with his money. His kids sound awful. You're allowed to feel annoyed about how it's distributed as it's nothing more than an emotion, but the minute you verbalise it or act on it, you're an arsehole in my honest opinion.

Anewuser · 24/07/2024 18:26

You’re Sue right?

We were in a similar position. FIL went 50/50 in the end. Meant siblings aren’t as close as they were, now.

Nothing you can do, let dad make his own choice.

Hope when your sister passes she leaves her inheritance to your children, if she has no children of her own.

MaturingCheeseball · 24/07/2024 18:20

Imagine if your sibling was one of the Radfords with 22 or whatever children! 50/50 to the children is the only fair way.

dizzydizzydizzy · 24/07/2024 18:12

Wills being out the worst in people. Most of the detail, such as who lives where and how often they visit and phone, is irrelevant.

KatieCrusoe · 24/07/2024 18:09

I have 2 kids and it's 50/50 between them. One may have 10 kids, the other none but it's still 50/50 from me.

EmoCourt · 24/07/2024 18:06

OhshutupRoger · 24/07/2024 18:01

Disagree. It is neither Anne nor Sues money to give away it is that of their Father and he can allocate it as he wishes.

Agree with PP that it is incredibly crass to be squabbling over money and the poor man isn't even dead yet!

Yes. His money, his decision, however much individuals involved might disagree.

OhshutupRoger · 24/07/2024 18:01

YellowAsteroid · 24/07/2024 17:19

I can see why Anne thinks it's unfair. She inherits less because of the discrete sums to Sue's children.

It should be down to Sue to leave money, or give money, to her children.

Who knows what sacrifices & pain Anne feels about being single with no children? The wills might exacerbate this.

Disagree. It is neither Anne nor Sues money to give away it is that of their Father and he can allocate it as he wishes.

Agree with PP that it is incredibly crass to be squabbling over money and the poor man isn't even dead yet!

lovelysunshine22 · 24/07/2024 17:57

Anne sounds like a grasping, greedy, selfish cow tbh.

GrumpyPanda · 24/07/2024 17:51

suburburban · 24/07/2024 16:22

50/50 between siblings is fairest

Up,to Sue if she wants to give some to her dc

Complete agreement here. It's also how inheritance law works where I'm based (non-UK.)

Lowerechelons · 24/07/2024 17:48

The twins' mum needs to ahead a word with herself, putting emotional pressure on Dad. The childless sister is right, but should keep quiet.

Dad should leave it all to the donkey sanctuary

Spondoolies · 24/07/2024 17:47

I agree with those saying the split should be 50/50 to the sisters and anything to the grandkids come out of Sue’s share. Otherwise Sue could have continued having children and Anne’s inheritance would drop by £20k each time. What happens if the grandkids start having their own children, would Anne’s share be cut again?

ToofHurty · 24/07/2024 17:43

Everything should be split 50/50 between Sue and Anne and the twins are cheeky bastards.

kittylion2 · 24/07/2024 17:38

As someone who has inherited and hopefully will leave some inheritance (care fees permitting) I think it should be shared equally between the children, and the children should sort out their own children. My mother did talk about leaving some to the grandchildren, I made no comment and said it was up to them, my brother had 5 children to my 2. I felt that in some way my family was being disadvantaged because of my - and my brother's choices. He chose to have 5 children, I chose to have 2 because money was tighter for us. It felt like he was being rewarded because his family was receiving 5/7 of this amount. She had also made some mention of my brother needing the money more than I do - he didn't, he is no worse off than I am, but in any case, you never know what is going to happen to people in the future.

However, when my parents died, they had left their estate divided equally between my brother and me. It comforted me at the end - their will was their last message to us and it showed that they loved us equally.

There was no way I would ever have commented on this in their lifetime, how crass would that have been, but it confirmed what I thought about wills and a year later when I made my will, I did the same.