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To not give money to my separated husband who has alcohol issues and just lost his job?

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MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 10:01

My DH lives in another property and has done for 3 years, due primarily to alcohol issues and mental health issues. Basically he was angry, takes it all out on me and wants a place to drink in peace.
He has held down a full time job and drinks a small amount each day sometimes not, sometimes binges.
He lost his job two months ago and now has literally no money, yet asked me to pay some of his rent. Meanwhile I have our two children at my house who I need to pay for and I'm not really sure why I should be paying anything for my separated husband ( we are still married as I live in hope he will better) He is at the house most days looking after children, as they don't like going to his place it's too far. He literally has no money. His family said they can't help and asked me to support him. Out of the goodness of my heart, I said he may be able to move here but due to his angry outbursts due to his alcohol use even sober and anger due to no job, I'm not sure it's a good idea. I can't support him and dare say it would just be spent on alcohol.
The weekend he asked me for money he was out at a bar at 3am as he pocket dialled me.meanwhole im looking after his children. He is supposed to be paying me child maintenance. What do I do? His family are not in the country and don't seem to worry about him, other than telling him to come home.

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 24/07/2024 12:32

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 11:14

I have not heard of this disassociation of finances. He has already ruined my ability to get insurance as he applied and said he hadn't made a claim when he had. Can I get disassociated with this? From the past? He also tried to take a phone contract out in my name. How can I stop him.doung this?
This is pure hell.

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Feelingstrange2 · 24/07/2024 12:24

If he is drinking and then doesn't have the rent money, that's his failed prioritisation.

If you pay his rent, he will continue to make these poor choices.

You can't stop him.drinking but you can choose to not enable him. Who knows if he will ever work it out for himself but he is far less likely to If he has an enabler.

LimeQuoter · 24/07/2024 12:24

If he hasn't asked for money before and only if you can afford it, then you could give him a bit. But if he's asked more than twice before then no. Because if he has an addiction, you could end up enabling him and it could even turn dangerous in time, if you don't give him money for the drink he needs. I definitely wouldn't let him move in and id be asking him nicely and repeatedly if needed if he could drink elsewhere. It's good he's looking after the kids anyway. You could help him by avoiding alcohol temptations, not drinking yourself around him etc and being enthusiastic about non alcohol activities. If he's drunk around the kids, I'd draw a line, because it will really affect them. I definitely wouldn't allow him move in for all your sakes. It wouldn't be good for your husband either. Him losing his job and having no money could be the wake up call he needs and preventing that mightnt be a good idea. If you see it getting worse, maybe you move further away from him. There is a safety order you can get if you see it getting too bad. Protect yourself and the kids from his addiction no matter what. Your husband isn't in the position to set healthy boundaries but you are, with the help of the law if needed! Don't let him take ye all down with him

Caroparo52 · 24/07/2024 12:17

This is the end really isn't it?
He's hoping you will finance his drinking whilst also being his punch bag.
You're responsibly lies with protecting your dc both financially and mentally from his inadequacies.
No he doesn't move in under any circumstances.
No you don't fund him.. endless pit of money if you do.
Be firm.
No help or sympathy.
Tell him to sort his life out.
Start divorce.

RichTea90 · 24/07/2024 12:06

You can still be supportive, whilst also divorcing him. I’m wondering why you feel the need to stay married?

Noseybookworm · 24/07/2024 12:01

You are being very unreasonable to consider moving him back in or subsidising his lifestyle. He is an adult and responsible for himself. He needs to get help to stop drinking so please don't enable him further. Think about yourself and your children.

AzureAnt · 24/07/2024 12:00

Tell him to naff off

WhistPie · 24/07/2024 11:48

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 11:14

I have not heard of this disassociation of finances. He has already ruined my ability to get insurance as he applied and said he hadn't made a claim when he had. Can I get disassociated with this? From the past? He also tried to take a phone contract out in my name. How can I stop him.doung this?
This is pure hell.

Divorce him. It's what you should have done soon after you split.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/07/2024 11:46

"... but due to his angry outbursts due to his alcohol use even sober and anger due to no job...."

He's not in a fit state to be doing childcare. His precarious financial/job situation now is only going to get worse and put more and more stress on him.

Also, taking out mobile phone contracts in your name is fraud.

You need to protect yourself and your children...and get proper advice on protecting yourself financially - he's already shown that he has no qualms about running up debts in your name. He's not the same person he was before he upped the drinking

Hamserfan · 24/07/2024 11:33

PerfectTravelTote · 24/07/2024 10:10

Stop living in hope that he will get better. He won't. What you see is what you get.

I think this post says it all. You have been living apart for three years it is time to make it formal and start divorce proceedings. The kids and you must be your priority.

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/07/2024 11:32

You have done the hard bit in Him
Moving out

Tho coming to your house to look after the children daily isn't helping either of you

You say it's too far /kids don't like it at his place

How far away is he and what age children

He needs to claim uc and while not working his rent should be paid and he will get under £400 a month uc to pay bills and buy food

KeirStarmerIsAMensch · 24/07/2024 11:30

Stand your ground and get legal advice with a view to formalising your separation or a divorce. Sorry you are going through this, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Winter2020 · 24/07/2024 11:27

He was earning £400 a day until recently but hasn't a penny to his name.

You say he is "supposed to be paying maintenance" did he pay it when he was earning good money?

If he lives in an expensive place then he will have to give it up now he can't afford it - unless he can get another good job.

Did your partner lose their job due to drinking OP?

Do you think he drinks and drives now he is driving for a living - or cycling after drinking if he is on a bike?

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 11:14

I have not heard of this disassociation of finances. He has already ruined my ability to get insurance as he applied and said he hadn't made a claim when he had. Can I get disassociated with this? From the past? He also tried to take a phone contract out in my name. How can I stop him.doung this?
This is pure hell.

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Nchanged89 · 24/07/2024 10:53

Nope. He will have to sort his own shit out.
Contact Al Anon for yourself, they will help you see what is staring you in the face.

BMW6 · 24/07/2024 10:52

Absolutely DO NOT let him move back in with you

Absolutely DO NOT give him any money, pay his rent, anything at all

Get a divorce ASAP. Protect your children first and foremost.

He's a grown up and if he ends up homeless that's entirely on him. He NEEDS to get out if this down spiral all by himself, as does every addict, always.

STFUDonkey · 24/07/2024 10:51

File for divorce immediately.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 24/07/2024 10:45

we are still married as I live in hope he will better

Divorce doesn't have to be final, although in this case it probably should be. You have been separated for three years, it isn't getting any better quickly. Divorce him, protect your children and assets. You can always co-habit again if he turns his life around and sustains it but not being financially tied to him would be better for now.

Sirzy · 24/07/2024 10:43

The boundaries are already blurred by staying married. Don’t blur them more letting him move in.

you need to properly separate and keep things separate for everyone’s sake. He needs to take responsibility for himself

ToofHurty · 24/07/2024 10:41

if he is absolutely destitute, the odd fiver maybe when you can spare it

He will spend it on alcohol.

Shinyandnew1 · 24/07/2024 10:41

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 10:37

I am not going to give him money

Well, then carry on doing what you’re doing.

I’d divorce him as well so finances are completely separated.

TomatoSandwiches · 24/07/2024 10:40

He had a payout and pissed it up the wall, he is responsible for himself at this point.

Make things official and divorce him, don't let him take care of the children if he's drinking.

ToofHurty · 24/07/2024 10:39

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 10:37

I am not going to give him money

Helping him out financially includes suggesting he can move back in with you.

I can’t actually believe you offered that. Your poor kids.

LBFseBrom · 24/07/2024 10:38

Don't let him move in, you are living apart for a good reason which must not be forgotten.

The unemployed can get benefits, he needs to organise that.

By all means give him a meal when he is at your home and if he is absolutely destitute, the odd fiver maybe when you can spare it but no 'big' money. He needs to be independent and he can be, even while unemployed.

I do hope the guy gets his drinking under control but you have to be firm.

MarciaMarcia · 24/07/2024 10:37

I am not going to give him money

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