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Notthisagain12 · 23/07/2024 23:31

Is It true labour are adding on a 20% VAT on private schools? Literally the first I’ve heard of it from MN - can’t work out if it’s real or a joke?

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Nanaof1 · 28/07/2024 08:14

Notthisagain12 · 23/07/2024 23:31

Is It true labour are adding on a 20% VAT on private schools? Literally the first I’ve heard of it from MN - can’t work out if it’s real or a joke?

I think the sarcasm dripping from your fingers fell unto my laptop and shorted it out. Expect a bill soon with 20% VAT added. 😆😉

I read some of these threads and the shocked/angry/pissy/rude replies and think to myself, "So THAT'S how the Nigerian Prince shares his money so easily!". 🙄

Monty27 · 28/07/2024 03:31

@Notthisagain12 don't you have an accountant darling?
This thread is the best for a long time 😙

HauntedBungalow · 26/07/2024 00:09

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 24/07/2024 14:30

Very happy. Thank you for asking.

[Oh, and BTW it's "Kyiv" nowadays.]

*Kyir

MyNameIsFine · 25/07/2024 23:54

PointsSouth · 25/07/2024 20:56

Okay, I know I'm going to hate myself for this but...

@HauntedBungalow - how does taxing private education just like you tax every other service amount to communism?

It doesn't. They're being daft. Communists wouldn't allow private schools in the first place. However, it does make us the only country in Europe to tax educational services, which should make us pause for thought. If it's such a great idea, why isn't everybody else doing it?

PointsSouth · 25/07/2024 20:56

HauntedBungalow · 23/07/2024 23:40

Welcome to COMMUNISM. If you voted for KIEV Starmer I hope you're happy now.

Okay, I know I'm going to hate myself for this but...

@HauntedBungalow - how does taxing private education just like you tax every other service amount to communism?

Sockmate123 · 24/07/2024 23:24

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 12:17

Cheeky fuck CF stands for - I don’t know where but on this site there’s a whole page of what the initials stand for. No idea where though 🙈

Thank you!!

MyNameIsFine · 24/07/2024 17:40

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 17:20

Are you assuming my children are at state school? I said it literally directly affects me!

It will cost me personally £10k more a year.

I think MN is absolutely not the forum to be arguing with people about it though whichever side you’re on - it’s pointless!

I assumed that was part of the 'satire'.

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 17:20

MyNameIsFine · 24/07/2024 16:43

I missed those. Did they not gave a clear title? People are considering whether they can afford the VAT, or whether it's worth it anymore. Or they're trying to dispell the myth that schools have huge surplus cash to cover the VAT. If the government insists in spreading misinformation, people are going to take to the internet to fight back. If it's annoying you, just don't click on those threads.

Are you assuming my children are at state school? I said it literally directly affects me!

It will cost me personally £10k more a year.

I think MN is absolutely not the forum to be arguing with people about it though whichever side you’re on - it’s pointless!

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MyNameIsFine · 24/07/2024 16:43

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 14:40

There’s literally one now on the first page asking for pro voters and yesterday another and it reached the max comments! They’re everywhere

I missed those. Did they not gave a clear title? People are considering whether they can afford the VAT, or whether it's worth it anymore. Or they're trying to dispell the myth that schools have huge surplus cash to cover the VAT. If the government insists in spreading misinformation, people are going to take to the internet to fight back. If it's annoying you, just don't click on those threads.

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 16:29

I heard they're going to charge VAT on the VAT payable on private school fees.

MeinKraft · 24/07/2024 16:27

Notthisagain12 · 23/07/2024 23:40

So I’ve googled it… it’s true - who knew this ????

What I’ll do now is make lots of posts asking what we all think of it and consider the impact and really get into the fine detail of it as it’s very interesting and life changing to me personally

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My cat could have told you that

Jonesthebootmaker · 24/07/2024 16:12

Parents of those children in private education - this message is directed at you.

  1. There’s a fantastic, informative Facebook group you can join which gives up to date information about the policy and also weekly updates about the motions in place to contest the policy. It didn’t get passed before due to these contested issues- there is a council opposing it and going down the legal route.
  1. If the policy gets passed - private schools will look at reducing the fees they currently charge and then (as it will be a legal requirement to do so) add the VAT on so it’s inline with the current fees. They will take away bursaries and scholarships as to not increase the fees further. (Appreciate that’s not ideal for those children who currently have them but they can’t justify increasing fees and others having it for discounted or free).
  1. If the policy comes into place, private schools can now claim back the VAT from building work from previous years and going forward, this will allow them to absorb some of the costs.
  1. Those parents of children who have put their child in due to SEN needs - two points- firstly - if your child needs an EHCP start the process. There’s some brilliant third parties who will help you get this and help you with the tribunal appeal. This means the EHCP can go to state school with you if you move OR it means you won’t pay the VAT as labour said children with EHCPs are exempt.
Secondly, if your child doesn’t have the need level and wouldn’t get an EHCP talk to the school, I’m sure they would prefer to keep you than lose you over a relatively small about of money.
  1. Those parents with their own businesses- get an account and use your child allowance gift aid that is tax free (just this alone pays for the VAT in one year).
  1. If you need to move into state schools- you can move location to a Grammar school area or better school. If you do this before the natural period of transitions you’ll be guaranteed a place. Don’t panic!
  1. Lastly- private school parents - I’m not sure Mumsnet is the best place to discuss a policy that doesn’t apply to many and doesn’t involve them. Parents who oppose it need to be on the plenty of forums who are taking action rather than arguing with people who are against private schools/ have no political sway either way/ it’s not their personal business and argue when those in private schools put forward logical , backed up arguments.
wellington77 · 24/07/2024 15:30

Have you been living under a rock? It’s been in all the news for past couple of months with the elections

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 15:29

HauntedBungalow · 23/07/2024 23:40

Welcome to COMMUNISM. If you voted for KIEV Starmer I hope you're happy now.

I didn’t vote for him- I think he seems a nice guy though but he wasn’t who I voted for

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Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 14:40

MyNameIsFine · 24/07/2024 14:19

There have been plenty of other threads on mumsnet recently, and this topic hasn't been trending for days. You must have gone to some trouble to find the relevant threads. I'm not sure how you can be bored by something that there's no need for you to read about if you don't want to, or why you chose to start another thread on a topic you find so tedious. 🙄

There’s literally one now on the first page asking for pro voters and yesterday another and it reached the max comments! They’re everywhere

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BrigadierEtienneGerard · 24/07/2024 14:30

HauntedBungalow · 23/07/2024 23:40

Welcome to COMMUNISM. If you voted for KIEV Starmer I hope you're happy now.

Very happy. Thank you for asking.

[Oh, and BTW it's "Kyiv" nowadays.]

MyNameIsFine · 24/07/2024 14:19

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 10:50

OP is being very saucy … yep I am 🤣… I’m bored to death of the posts about it. There’s 600,000 in private schools - there’s 10,300 children in school in the UK so around a 5%. It’s all we hear about on here- same arguments, I’m unsure why people are trying to change others minds over it!

There have been plenty of other threads on mumsnet recently, and this topic hasn't been trending for days. You must have gone to some trouble to find the relevant threads. I'm not sure how you can be bored by something that there's no need for you to read about if you don't want to, or why you chose to start another thread on a topic you find so tedious. 🙄

FineFettler · 24/07/2024 12:46

Notthisagain12 · 23/07/2024 23:40

So I’ve googled it… it’s true - who knew this ????

What I’ll do now is make lots of posts asking what we all think of it and consider the impact and really get into the fine detail of it as it’s very interesting and life changing to me personally

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I think you should really start several threads about it, there definitely haven't been enough on MN so far.

DeadlyKnightshade · 24/07/2024 12:41

purpleme12 · 24/07/2024 00:13

It obviously is a sarcastic thread

Obviously is.

Owchthat · 24/07/2024 12:21

I literally feel this… is there a way @mumsnet can move the conversations into the education section?

Oh and I say this as a private school parent - I give zero fucks about the VAT added. I don’t expect anyone else to care - it’s a pointless conversation to have! We pay or we move our kids- done! Not sure what the rallying around really is - there’s plenty of legitimate forums where action is being taken for those who oppose the proposal and MN is not one!

Notthisagain12 · 24/07/2024 12:17

Sockmate123 · 24/07/2024 11:12

Genuine question on this funny thread 🙈 but what does CF stand for? I don't know, nor brand new to MN but not a veteran either 🤣🤣

Cheeky fuck CF stands for - I don’t know where but on this site there’s a whole page of what the initials stand for. No idea where though 🙈

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Mercurial123 · 24/07/2024 12:13

HauntedBungalow · 23/07/2024 23:40

Welcome to COMMUNISM. If you voted for KIEV Starmer I hope you're happy now.

You should get a job at the Daily Mail or Telegraph they'd LOVE you.

Furrydogmum · 24/07/2024 12:06

Notthisagain12 · 23/07/2024 23:40

So I’ve googled it… it’s true - who knew this ????

What I’ll do now is make lots of posts asking what we all think of it and consider the impact and really get into the fine detail of it as it’s very interesting and life changing to me personally

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🤣

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 24/07/2024 12:05

PeriIsKickingMyButt · 24/07/2024 10:19

How are some mumsnetters so oblivious to satire?!

Because this isn’t good “satire”. It’s a poor imitation of it that has fallen flat.

amymel2016 · 24/07/2024 11:20

Are you sure OP? I simply cannot afford another 20%! We’ve promised Tristan a brand new pony this year and Tabitha a new grand piano for her bedroom. Gosh, I really hope they stop the teachers there getting a discounted rate, I’ve never thought it was fair that they get money off just for working there, if they can’t afford full fees then go to state! Also, how will the state system cope?! This is the end of civilisation as we know it.