Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

I had the same conversation with my dm
I did not realise the guy they are protesting about actually hospitalised multiple people.

Disgraceful they want to protest about that but give zero fucks about this.

The political horseshoe is in full effect when the Dailymail looking like the good guy

It's disgusting that the BBC hasn't reported on this. There's protests from Muslims in certain areas calling out a police man who kicked a violent man who put several police officers in hospital. Radio silence for this little Muslim girl who was beaten to death by her brother.

I’ve just looked at the DM article with this man grinning outside court, smoking in a fucking tracksuit, and strolling along with the poor child’s mother. They look like they’re out for a trip to the shops. That poor girl, and really the younger siblings now, are just in service to that disgusting golden son. No wonder they were screaming in a bathroom, can only imagine the normalised abuse and violence that made up that girl’s life. Poor baby, and poor all the other children growing up in this way, abuse being normality.

Irrespective of whether he caused her death, he punched an 11yo with his adult full force. He should be done. End of. I am sick of male on female violence going unpunished.

☝🏻 This. Thank you @mirax

This is it though @prh47bridge
Leaving aside the question of Cause of Death, they absolutely can prosecute him for assault or ABH. Why hasn't that happened?
They can't say there's no evidence when Police haven't even done their job gathering evidence - not speaking to the key witnesses! Bc their parents refused, I'm sorry but that is total BS. And not ensuring the other children's safety.
Also they can go on about "reasonable doubt" but give me a break - a child becomes extremely unwell and collapses right after being punched in the head, then dies. And there are texts sent from the perp himself, of course that's bloody evidence.

And it is a case with huge public/legal interest but the radio silence from legacy press speaks its own story.

She ended up in hospital with trauma - all 3 medical opinions at the inquest use that word. Would there be trauma without the punch to the head? I do think that the inconclusive medical evidence is allowing authorities already reluctant to prosecute an easy way out. The police testimony was that a manslaughter charge was appropriate.

The (100%!) certainty with which you deliver your assessments and the way you deliberately misunderstand posters' points (that even a child cruelty charge is better than nothing since a manslaughter charge may be hard to prove in the wake of unclear medical evidence and community intransigence) and insult them for being so easily riled by DM reporting is the reason why you come across poorly. Trials are tricky things. Some iron clad cases fail and others get convicted on nothing more than circumstantial evidence. The cost of a trial and the lack of prison cells should not be the most important calculus when a child dies so prematurely in such conditions.

Yes, it’s very sus that the bbc did not report this. It’s also very funny they didn’t report the fact that 4 mosques were closed down in Germany last week plus the 50 addresses that were raided by police at the same time. I wonder why that was

Well this case appears 'cut and dried' as they say, in terms of someone (not) being accountable.
Rest in peace Falaq, I'm sorry you didn't have anyone to protect you. Such a heartbreaking case. As a society, let's do better for our girls and teach them we are not second class citizens.

It breaks my heart too. Regardless of whether her brother's actions caused her death, there is a dead girl and that is heartbreaking. Personally, I wish the medical evidence was conclusive one way or the other. If the doctors could say definitively that the punch did cause her death, we could all agree that the brother should be on trial. If they could say definitively that the punch did not cause her death, we would be in a somewhat different place, although there would still be the question of child cruelty.

My apologies. I got somewhat annoyed with that newspaper when its headline clearly misrepresented the evidence. But you are right. I shouldn't have brought them up again. And no, @DoreenonTill8, I do not think I am morally superior, and I have never called anyone an ignorant shit.

In that situation you are clearly guilty of some form of assault but you are not guilty of murder. If you want to convict someone of murder or manslaughter, you have to prove that they killed the victim. That isn't my logic. That is the law.

If you assault someone and they die of their injuries, you are clearly guilty of murder or, at the very least, manslaughter. If you assault someone and they die of some other cause that may or may not have been caused by your assault, you are not guilty.

I think the coroner made her views known with her verdict and comments.
I’m a former journalist who then worked as a police press officer and I find it hard to understand why this tragic case hasn’t been more widely reported. It wasn’t on the ITV news and it’s not on the BBC website.
There have been criticism of the Daily Mail reporting but the brother was undoubtedly smirking in the photo, and from what I read the reporting was a factual account of the inquest.
I still feel very strongly there should have been a prosecution.

@PurpleBugz - I'm sorry you went through this x

I'm so sorry you went through that and I hope you are doing well now 💐

No I was being sarcastic as was the poster I was quoting, I know nothing, all I know is this case is so sad and there is a dead little girl, which breaks my heart, but i'm just a sentimental old simpleton so what I think is irrelevant.

So sorry you went through that @PurpleBugz. It must be horrible to hear people defending that disgusting behaviour.

I haven’t read the DM on this but on the posts alone I still think it’s incredible to just get dropped

Criticising someone choice of news feed usually the Daily Mail is a boring sanctimonious lazy shot of those who think they are morally superior, and somehow think that by calling people ignorant shits will somehow win them over.

I’m amazed that likely isn’t enough to proceed

I mean it’s pretty much saying he did it more than he didn’t and yet no trial. Just dropped

I used to hide in the bathroom when my brother wanted to hit me. Only door in the house that locked. And you have to get in there fast and get the door shut and locked before he gets there or you have basically cornered yourself in a room with no other exit. I can visualise what these children went through. Horrific

@prh47bridge - I have been following this thread, and you have made some pertinent points throughout and tried to give a balanced view, which most of us are grateful for (me included).But for the love of God, will you stop mentioning the Daily Mail! Some people on here have no experience of the Criminal justice system / coroners court and the DM comments come across as quite patronising.