Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

This is what happens when sons are treated as Prince's and daughters as a burden.

What a horrific incident. The description of the extensive damage caused by the bathroom door speaks of angry, male, violence. The poor child must have been terrified.

We need to remember that male violence exists across all communities and cultures.

@Chickenuggetsticks fair enough. That's your experience and you've a right to your opinions but I've seen something a lot different. I have friends and family in the Muslim community and they think the grooming gangs are despicable and have no place in society. No way would they ever think it was the child's fault.
But then I guess Muslim communities are as diverse as other communities.

I've also been harassed and even while in school uniform as a teenager from idiots from all backgrounds. Sometimes pretty aggressively but I never reported it, assuming no one would take it seriously.

I think there's just a lack of justice when it comes to young victims, especially in terms of grooming and sexual abuse. Saville got away with it pretty openly. Lots of people reported him and nothing got done. Epsteins client list? Prince Andrew? Who knows who else.
I just can't believe that fear of racism is an excuse. I bet their not worried about racism when they arrest Asians for other reasons.
It's just odd.

Sick to death of people getting accused of racism when they dare mention the treatment of young women in certain communities . This is precisely what is wrong here. It is not racism, it's FACT.
See @Chickenuggetsticks post. She puts it more eloquently than i ever could.

Very well said, unfortunately girls and women have no voice in some communities. I wonder if the female family members were too scared to speak up, they may have experienced violence as well.

They get an 83% conviction rate.

That's not a good thing

I think it’s about the fact that domestic abuse is generally well hidden and in minority communities it’s even more difficult to detect. The woman I was listening to had social services at her house when she was a kid and the translator they sent told her parents she needed to be married off quickly as once she was 16 she could do what she wanted. She talked extensively about the conspiracy of silence around abuse of women and girls. The UK wouldn’t have had to legislate against forced marriages and FGM is it weren’t actually a problem. I remember the advice to stick a spoon in your knickers if you are being taken to the airport and you suspect you are going to be married off. Depressed the shit out of me.

I’m not sure it’s racism when you are stating the truth. I worry that by saying “you can’t say that’s racist so lets just ignore that” leaves women and girls in shitty situations. If a community has a very big problem with how it views women and girls then we should be able to talk about that. I’m asian myself, I care about women and I care about girls. The menz can take care of themselves. Race was identified as a factor in ignoring the grooming of children, thats why theres a question mark over this.

She was in the bathroom screaming her head off apparently...well I wonder why?! No doubt he was regularly an abusive arsehole, potentially a perv too and she was trying to escape him

These were my thoughts, she and her younger siblings were in a locked bathroom. Poor love the terror they must have gone through.

The family are disgusting for closing ranks to support the abuser (probably to protect their reputation as well). SS need to be all over this dysfunctional family.

They can say no if they think it will traumatise the little children.a confession is not enough, especially from someone sent at a time they were probably in shock.
Furthermore it sounds as if there is doubt as to the cause of death.why was the girl screaming? Maybe she was suffering a brain haemorrhage for example?

I'm not doing the same, read the posts and don't be disingenuous.

It's a sexist thing. If she'd have killed him she'd have been banged up forever, branded as a man hater, but because he killed her, she was nothing.

Makes the blood boil!

The point is people using the killing of a little girl to point score against Muslims.

And that's what's happening on this thread.

I hope that Jess Phillips MP, Labour's new minister appointed to tackle violence against women and children, and domestic violence, investigates this truly appalling case. RIP Falaq.

Neither were all the grooming gangs, but when it comes to girls being abused, the police are suddenly terrified of being called racist. Priorities I guess.

I'd hazard a guess at all the adult males in that family being abusive and the women too scared to speak out.

@BakeOffRewatch I had that case in mind when I read about this one. Apparently their court case starts on September 2nd

Exactly he admitted to punching a child in the head! Piece of shit.

But even then, couldn't he be prosecuted for assault, grievous bodily harm or something? Sounds like he's got away scot free here.

I don’t think this is true, I remember listening to a phone in where a young woman who’s family knew one of the grooming gang members who were arrested. She was talking about how many excuses were made and the blame was put squarely on the children 🤷🏽‍♀️. She was disgusted and shocked by the response.

To be honest the extent of the grooming gangs and the fact that they often involved men who were related and friends shows that these behaviours were accepted to a certain extent. I can’t imagine many men I know turning around to one of their cousins or brothers and saying “I’ve got a 12yr old, do you want to borrow her” and not getting a very negative response.

I also grew up in an area where sexual harassment by pakistani men towards schoolgirls specifically was prolific. Always trying to pick them up on the street in the shopping centre etc. Obviously this is not every pakistani man but it was extremely common. I know thats not comfortable but tbh I care more about the safety of girls than the feelings of men.

I would also suggest listening to some interviews with ex-muslim women and their experiences from within their communities. We are ignoring an epidemic of violence and domestic abuse and it’s hurting girls and women. Race shouldn’t matter, we have laws, they need to be enforced.

Maybe if we'd had some balls re being racist to Muslim men and calling them out, many British and Asian girls would be living much safer lives in the UK. We're not even scratching the surface, grooming gangs, honour killings, forced marriages, getting away with murder. Is it any wonder people are angry at all these injustices.

They were indeed, but the fact this one is not prosecuted is not the fault of the whole of the Muslim community.

I found it in the Manchester Evening News, but only one mention on Twitter and that was using it as an excuse to be racist.

I know people keep saying this but it makes no sense that the police are worried about being racist. Why do they arrest any ethnic minority criminal then?
The Muslim communities are disgusted by these kind of people and want them arrested. Some of the gang members were even beaten up by members of their community. I'm not saying that's right of course, but they don't want criminals in their communities and would not be accepting of this either.
Police would get support from the community.

I think you can but we're not allowed to say anything which is why the country is in a mess. It's a bloody disgrace...........