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Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

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SouthernFashionista · 23/07/2024 22:29

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

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notanotherusername21 · 17/08/2024 20:33

Any lawyers in here? Why did CPS not prosecute, even on a lesser offence? He admitted punching her in writing

BlackShuck3 · 30/07/2024 12:14

Annanirvana · 28/07/2024 23:35

I think it's both, their men/sons can do no wrong, even when they're taking and dealing drugs. Meanwhile the male members of the family don't let the girls out of their sight. They're under complete male control until they're 14/15 then it's off to visit sick Granny back home, they don't come back single, they've been married off to a cousin.

I agree, any wrong doing, no matter who committed it, is blamed on the girls they are punished for the men's crimes. It's a way of keeping the men at the top of the hierarchy, preserving their reputation so that nothing hampers their progress in life.
Women and girls are sacrificed and pushed down so that men can stay at the top.

Scammersarescum · 30/07/2024 10:30

roxyro · 29/07/2024 10:27

Once money has been paid to bring said cousin into the UK

i speak from direct experience. Neighbour married cousin in Pakistan. Brought him over then left him on his own whilst she lived with family. He used to tell me all about it. His sister married her brother at the same time so two were brought over.

he used to use my landline to call his family in Pakistan (paid me). He told me his father had paid a lot of money for them to marry the two cousins and bring them over.

i’m not racist, I’m telling the truth. If some don’t like it that’s their problem. There’s a hell of a lot more I could tell but I was given a lot more insight into the culture and practices than most people. Some of it shocking.

Chain migration is a massive issue that has caused cultural imbalances within the UK. You only need to look at areas like Dewsbury or Bradford to see the result of badly managed migration policies. There is very little community integration.

The conversation about it needs to be frank and is long overdue.

People are starting to talk about it much more openly recently and is it any surprise when you have situations like this one?

VeryOldMan · 30/07/2024 10:04

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JulyMume · 29/07/2024 15:11

What were all the deleted posts above roughly about? I didn’t get a chance to read before they were deleted.

roxyro · 29/07/2024 11:19

I thought Mumsnet was better than this but hey, let’s shut down discussion if you don’t agree with it.

EasternStandard · 29/07/2024 10:51

Stuff gets deleted if it’s not true but that post re Houris idk is it part of the religion?

If so it can be talked about

To add it might still be there as not an attack but people can say why it’s not the case if it’s false

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roxyro · 29/07/2024 10:27

Annanirvana · 28/07/2024 23:35

I think it's both, their men/sons can do no wrong, even when they're taking and dealing drugs. Meanwhile the male members of the family don't let the girls out of their sight. They're under complete male control until they're 14/15 then it's off to visit sick Granny back home, they don't come back single, they've been married off to a cousin.

Once money has been paid to bring said cousin into the UK

i speak from direct experience. Neighbour married cousin in Pakistan. Brought him over then left him on his own whilst she lived with family. He used to tell me all about it. His sister married her brother at the same time so two were brought over.

he used to use my landline to call his family in Pakistan (paid me). He told me his father had paid a lot of money for them to marry the two cousins and bring them over.

i’m not racist, I’m telling the truth. If some don’t like it that’s their problem. There’s a hell of a lot more I could tell but I was given a lot more insight into the culture and practices than most people. Some of it shocking.

pilates · 29/07/2024 06:58

MN HQ are you actually going to do anything about posters calling others racist because they disagree with your pov and to shut them down?

mommatoone · 29/07/2024 00:14

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mommatoone · 29/07/2024 00:12

I feel desperately sorry for these young girls in general. But the fact that (a lot of them ) are brought up in westernised culture, ie mixed schools etc , it must be incredibly difficult if they are from a family with strict beliefs. My family have Muslim friends through school / work and although religious, the girls in particular are very westernised and hold down professional jobs in a male dominated environment. Sadly, this is not the case for some of these girls.

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Annanirvana · 28/07/2024 23:35

I think it's both, their men/sons can do no wrong, even when they're taking and dealing drugs. Meanwhile the male members of the family don't let the girls out of their sight. They're under complete male control until they're 14/15 then it's off to visit sick Granny back home, they don't come back single, they've been married off to a cousin.

Annanirvana · 28/07/2024 23:29

It's bloody pathetic and laughable isn't it? Probably some promised land, " you can't get laid in this life but never mind, in the next you'll have brainless,animé cartoon bang maids to fulfill your every need" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Annanirvana · 28/07/2024 23:25

They must dream this wnky boll*ks up themselves 🙄. Funnily enough these Houris sound like cartoons/ animé, unrealistic as hell. Chances are, they'll burn in that place.

roxyro · 28/07/2024 20:58

It’s actually 72 virgins and the daft prats no doubt believe it. What utter fucked up bullshit.

SusieLawson · 28/07/2024 20:56

JulyMume · 28/07/2024 20:49

@SusieLawson I think that’s disgusting what I’m reading about this. I’ve also heard similar in terms of when the man goes to heaven he will be welcomed with 7 virgins! It’s disgusting how women are treated.

Virgins who stay virgins no matter how often they have sex lol.

JulyMume · 28/07/2024 20:49

@SusieLawson I think that’s disgusting what I’m reading about this. I’ve also heard similar in terms of when the man goes to heaven he will be welcomed with 7 virgins! It’s disgusting how women are treated.

SusieLawson · 28/07/2024 20:16

slammmer · 28/07/2024 14:33

Well, all that 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' seems to have been a figment of the imagination of Rumpole:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

Have you heard about Houris as taught in Islam? They say when a man dies he will have houris, who are women with fair skin, big eyes, smiling faces, large bust, just enough intelligence to obey the man, have no bodily functions or odours, will stay a virgin even if the man has as much s ex as he wants and not get pregnant.
It sounds like a sexist made up story, as if they can't get pregnant, then they're saying breasts are just for the man's pleasure. Also all these bodily lusts doesn't sound very spiritual, in the way some say our body is just material.
I asked what do women get, and was told the same husband as before, but have to share them with the houris, but are slightly more important.

mirax · 28/07/2024 16:32

slammmer · 28/07/2024 14:33

Well, all that 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' seems to have been a figment of the imagination of Rumpole:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

You have some very bad judges. But thank you for posting that.

florizel13 · 28/07/2024 15:16

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 23/07/2024 23:32

@Avatartar you can start a petition here
https://www.change.org

Before I even clicked on the article I had a strong feeling that cultural issues would be involved......

Good for saying what a lot of us were thinking

VickyPollard25 · 28/07/2024 14:55

WillimNot · 28/07/2024 13:53

I don't think there's more we can do, other than continue to put pressure on agencies to step up and do their jobs.

Sadly though, the media are suggesting that the officers who were attacked in Manchester will potentially have to go into hiding due to threats received, which is credible as it's another situation we've seen before.

My DD is gay, but even that doesn't stop them becoming a target, at secondary school DS was told a group of Muslim boys were going to catch up with her and "rape her straight". He was very upset by this. DD is made of harder stuff and she collared the boy who said it, at which point he told her in front of other students that she should be thrown from the roof and was a disgrace to us as a family!

It was reported to school and the police. Police did nothing but say to school for them to deal with it. We were advised to pick them up and drop them off at school "in case". School gave him a two day in school suspension. That was it.

When I suggested this wasn't enough, I was told it was "unlikely" anything would happen to her. As I said to the police officer who phoned "well that's OK then, it might happen but oh well, we will wait until it does eh?" He got quite annoyed with me that I was being sarcastic which he felt was "unhelpful" and his hands were tied.

Obviously DD was fine but both my teens left the school as soon as able, in fact when DD went to a new school for college in September last year, DS decided to go with her and finish his education outside of the old school. Glad to say at this school it's very different and neither has had grief.

I’m fairly certain my ex husband would have dealt with that boy directly. I’m not advocating it as people defending their daughters could be hurt. But it seems that is all that is left to us.

VeryOldMan · 28/07/2024 14:39

slammmer · 28/07/2024 14:33

Well, all that 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' seems to have been a figment of the imagination of Rumpole:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

I'm old enough to remember the Student Protest movement of the 1960s, '70s & '80s and often wondered where those student activists and their leaders went to.
Looking at legal decisions that that one then I think the answer is now at least partially obvious.