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British kids and eating habits - IABU ?

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lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:17

I have two young kids and we live in the UK but we are not originally from here.

At home we cook everyday from scratch our food and we take that food at a lunch box at our workplace. We have a light dinner again made from scratch.

The issue is our kids which are of course going to school/nursery and they love to copy their friends!

In the UK it's healthy if a kid eats sausages (god knows what the meat has inside), or for example Heinz baked beans which have 10% sugar and 20% salt (leaving 70% being actual beans) or if they eat fish fingers which are pre-fried (even if you bake them they were already fried before got frozen) or chicken nuggets (again pre-fried which god knows what was the oil quality).

It's also acceptable to drink juices which have no sugar but plenty sweeteners.

Also, it's perfectly fine to have a ham sandwich for lunch which has ready made processed bread full of emulsifiers and ham which (like sausage) god knows what ingredients has.

It's ok that primary schools offer desserts, even if they are small portions and low sugar on a daily basis - not on a weekly or as special occasion! I don't have a dessert everyday, why my kid is offered one?

Honestly, are all these things ok? Am I paranoid?

I am very worried that the kids will either end up obsessed. with diabetes or with other health issues given all the processed food and the fact that we are what we eat.

YABU - are you crazy?

YANBU - unfortunately this is a "balanced healthy diet" in the UK!

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YOYOK · 23/07/2024 22:34

Since we are being pious……

Homemade bread is far from ideal. Children can get carbohydrates from far better and healthier sources.

VioletMountainHare · 23/07/2024 22:34

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:00

Exactly! How is it healthy to have a dessert every day? Last week school menu had: Monday - Chocolate mousse, Tuesday - Lemon drizzle sponge, Wednesday - Chocolate sponge with chocolate sauce, Thursday - Jelly, Friday - pink Jam slice.

They are 4 years old!!!

If they’re anything like the desserts in my school they’ll be made with beetroot, carrots, oats etc and very low sugar. Often they end up in the staffroom as they haven’t all been eaten, especially on a day where there is frosting on the sponge so not all UK kids are obsessed with desserts. Most children don’t have the dessert every day, they only take the ones they like and on the other days they have the bread/fruit/soup option.

If your kids are complaining about wanting dessert maybe let them have it sometimes, otherwise once they’re teenagers they’ll be sneaking it behind your back. I was allowed sweet treats whenever I wanted them as a child and as a result rarely ate them and could have just a few sweets then leave the rest. My friends with strict parents gorged on sweets whenever they were at someone else’s home and stole money to buy junk food once we were at secondary. Your approach to food isn’t as brilliant as you think it is and can be setting your kids up for a lifetime of difficult relationships with food.

My friend whose mum served her main meal on side plates and didn’t allow sweet treats has been on a diet for the past two decades, her weight has fluctuated massively and she’s never managed to get down to a healthy weight. It’s possibly time to review your attitude…

Combattingthemoaners · 23/07/2024 22:34

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 23/07/2024 22:27

Now, now, homemade bread is the yeast you can do for your children.

I’d prefer to provide them with a wholemeal.

RamonaRamirez · 23/07/2024 22:32

20% salt in baked beans LOL 😁😁😁😁

theprincessthepea · 23/07/2024 22:31

Someone once told me that the biggest difference between UK food and say food from Europe is that it’s packed full of preservatives because we import a large amount.

I don’t have the stats but I love the quality of European food- it tastes better - I’m born and bred British with lots of French relatives , and I loved the foods we would have in France. OK, it was still junk - lots of biscuits and bread (bakery or baguettes) and Jam. Compared to being at home where we had spaghetti hoops, fish fingers and we did have lots of sausages- but we did in France too - it was normally the super processed one that tastes delicious but is 50% meat.

My daughter loves veg though. I agree children are heavily influenced by the culture and I remember wondering why my dd will choose chicken nuggets over actual chicken. But as a teen she prefers home cooked stews with carbs over the horrible frozen stuff.

RainbowColouredRainbows · 23/07/2024 22:30

Combattingthemoaners · 23/07/2024 22:25

Bloody hell everything is off limits after reading this thread. What are we actually allowed to feed our children!? Don’t say home made bread, I don’t knead the hassle.

You can feed them chicken. Just not too much. The whole chicken should feed your family for a week. Oh, and apparently homemade bread. That's it otherwise you will be judged by the MN vipers.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 23/07/2024 22:29

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 23/07/2024 22:27

Now, now, homemade bread is the yeast you can do for your children.

Oh yeah? Prove it

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 23/07/2024 22:27

Combattingthemoaners · 23/07/2024 22:25

Bloody hell everything is off limits after reading this thread. What are we actually allowed to feed our children!? Don’t say home made bread, I don’t knead the hassle.

Now, now, homemade bread is the yeast you can do for your children.

betterangels · 23/07/2024 22:27

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 16:24

I don’t think any of the “healthy” things you have written about are healthy or that anyone thinks this.

The main unhealthy concern that stands out to me is your attitude to food and that’s often the cause of an eating disorder in children in itself.

Yep, this. Unclench a bit.

Anonym00se · 23/07/2024 22:26

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:17

humour is subjective. I can tell when people are trying to make jokes even when I don't think they are being funny.

Regarding "can't be bothered' urm maybe. I mean, I work my arse off running a household and working full time but hey, why not add in an extra hour to make bread from scratch so that mumsnet posters don't think I'm lazy.

Yes an hour. Locating ingredients and equipment, mixing, proving, baking and cleaning. I know because I've done it. I like fresh bread. I just prioritise other things... like my own sanity.

I hear you. I always say a loaf should cost about 20 quid for the amount of graft that goes into it!

Combattingthemoaners · 23/07/2024 22:25

Bloody hell everything is off limits after reading this thread. What are we actually allowed to feed our children!? Don’t say home made bread, I don’t knead the hassle.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 23/07/2024 22:25

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:23

If you think 'are you on crack' is funny then you really need to grow up.

But I have a bread machine. I've clearly reached the pinnacle of maturity.

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:23

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 23/07/2024 22:22

Her comment was a lot funnier than any of your po-faced posts. Give it a rest.

If you think 'are you on crack' is funny then you really need to grow up.

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:22

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:21

how do you know whether anyone has found my joke funny?

and as I said, even if no-one found it funny, I was clearly joking.

No-one thinks my uncle's jokes are funny, but he is clearly joking a lot of the time.

You're really doubling down on the bread thing aren't you? what a strange hill to die on.

What on earth are you on about? No I'm not going to change my opinion on bread just because you personally can't be bothered making it! Amusing you've got all this time to argue this point but not 5 minutes to be kneading a loaf of bread though.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 23/07/2024 22:22

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:19

Nobody seems to have found your comment funny so far.

I don't care if you're lazy or not? Prioritise what you want, it's no skin off my nose. I still think it's sad that the modern world doesn't consider making bread something worth doing. If it takes you an hour I'd say it's a skill issue tbh.

Her comment was a lot funnier than any of your po-faced posts. Give it a rest.

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:22

Pallisers · 23/07/2024 22:21

How do they reduce the fat in an olive?

another joke. clearly I am not funny 🙃

Pallisers · 23/07/2024 22:21

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:08

you need to buy reduced salt, reduced fat olives but not upf obvs

How do they reduce the fat in an olive?

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:21

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:19

Nobody seems to have found your comment funny so far.

I don't care if you're lazy or not? Prioritise what you want, it's no skin off my nose. I still think it's sad that the modern world doesn't consider making bread something worth doing. If it takes you an hour I'd say it's a skill issue tbh.

how do you know whether anyone has found my joke funny?

and as I said, even if no-one found it funny, I was clearly joking.

No-one thinks my uncle's jokes are funny, but he is clearly joking a lot of the time.

You're really doubling down on the bread thing aren't you? what a strange hill to die on.

reallytimetodeclutter · 23/07/2024 22:20

Brit here!

Will admit to happily giving our DD baked beans. She loves them with shop bought (gasp!) gnocchi.

And I'd rather read a book, have a glass of wine with DH, go to a yoga class, or watch a bit of telly than bake bread every other evening. Guilty as charged!

Galoop · 23/07/2024 22:20

YANBU. I think cooking from scratch is more difficult for some people because it takes time, but also its a skill that most don't have (myself included unfortunately). Although I very rarely feed my child processed crap.

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:19

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:17

humour is subjective. I can tell when people are trying to make jokes even when I don't think they are being funny.

Regarding "can't be bothered' urm maybe. I mean, I work my arse off running a household and working full time but hey, why not add in an extra hour to make bread from scratch so that mumsnet posters don't think I'm lazy.

Yes an hour. Locating ingredients and equipment, mixing, proving, baking and cleaning. I know because I've done it. I like fresh bread. I just prioritise other things... like my own sanity.

Nobody seems to have found your comment funny so far.

I don't care if you're lazy or not? Prioritise what you want, it's no skin off my nose. I still think it's sad that the modern world doesn't consider making bread something worth doing. If it takes you an hour I'd say it's a skill issue tbh.

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:17

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:13

Jokes are usually funny aren't they?

Yes I can't believe people can't be bothered to make bread, sorry, but it doesn't take that long and it's much healthier. But the nutrition comment was a wider issue because I really cannot believe that people would be presented with information about how harmful processed meat etc is and still choose to eat it unless they are seriously lacking in understanding about how and why nutrition is so important. Especially when you have kids and you are almost solely responsible for their health and what goes into their bodies.

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humour is subjective. I can tell when people are trying to make jokes even when I don't think they are being funny.

Regarding "can't be bothered' urm maybe. I mean, I work my arse off running a household and working full time but hey, why not add in an extra hour to make bread from scratch so that mumsnet posters don't think I'm lazy.

Yes an hour. Locating ingredients and equipment, mixing, proving, baking and cleaning. I know because I've done it. I like fresh bread. I just prioritise other things... like my own sanity.

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 23/07/2024 22:17

My favorite part of this thread is that its British food being ridiculed and watching everyone so upset by it. Saying dont judge what other people do, you dont know their circumstances. Dont say that a whole country (or continent) is the same, etc etc etc. Now had this thread been about AMERICAN kids oh boy. At least once every couple weeks is there a thread to rip apart the food eaten/fed to kids in America. No one worries then about "dont judge other people" "you dont know their circumstances" and so on. Doesnt feel so good when its an attack on your children does it? Maybe remember that the next time an American Eating thread pops up

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 22:13

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:07

you literally commented about how you can't believe people couldn't make bread in a few mins .. then said people weren't educated in nutrition. how else am I meant to take it?

the crack comment was clearly a joke

Jokes are usually funny aren't they?

Yes I can't believe people can't be bothered to make bread, sorry, but it doesn't take that long and it's much healthier. But the nutrition comment was a wider issue because I really cannot believe that people would be presented with information about how harmful processed meat etc is and still choose to eat it unless they are seriously lacking in understanding about how and why nutrition is so important. Especially when you have kids and you are almost solely responsible for their health and what goes into their bodies.

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 23/07/2024 22:11

mugboat · 23/07/2024 22:11

I prefer chilli flakes

Ooh I’ve not tried chilli flakes with olives! Gotta look out for those.

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