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British kids and eating habits - IABU ?

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lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:17

I have two young kids and we live in the UK but we are not originally from here.

At home we cook everyday from scratch our food and we take that food at a lunch box at our workplace. We have a light dinner again made from scratch.

The issue is our kids which are of course going to school/nursery and they love to copy their friends!

In the UK it's healthy if a kid eats sausages (god knows what the meat has inside), or for example Heinz baked beans which have 10% sugar and 20% salt (leaving 70% being actual beans) or if they eat fish fingers which are pre-fried (even if you bake them they were already fried before got frozen) or chicken nuggets (again pre-fried which god knows what was the oil quality).

It's also acceptable to drink juices which have no sugar but plenty sweeteners.

Also, it's perfectly fine to have a ham sandwich for lunch which has ready made processed bread full of emulsifiers and ham which (like sausage) god knows what ingredients has.

It's ok that primary schools offer desserts, even if they are small portions and low sugar on a daily basis - not on a weekly or as special occasion! I don't have a dessert everyday, why my kid is offered one?

Honestly, are all these things ok? Am I paranoid?

I am very worried that the kids will either end up obsessed. with diabetes or with other health issues given all the processed food and the fact that we are what we eat.

YABU - are you crazy?

YANBU - unfortunately this is a "balanced healthy diet" in the UK!

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shamalidacdak · 23/07/2024 17:18

Yep unfortunately a lot of British people can't cook won't cook or are too poor to cook and live heavily on Highly processed foods and junk food that is the norm not the exception. I wish it were different. You tend to see more cooking from scratch and healthier options from richer families and immigrant families who prioritise fresh food and ingredients.

mopton · 23/07/2024 17:18

I don't think you are being unreasonable really just a walk round any supermarket will show that most people have very few fresh items in their trolly or basket some onions or potatoes or a bunch of bananas and the rest of it is mostly pre-packaged highly processed food that can be eaten out the box or bag or popped in the microwave or fizzy drinks and alcohol. The diet of the average brit is dreadful having said that the cost of living is high and people work long hours and have limited time each night to cook and prep healthy food so I can see why people rely on convenience foods and takeaways.

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 17:18

Jazz7 · 23/07/2024 17:17

What nonsense to damn all uk parents like this. Not many eat these things exclusively and provided the home diet is mostly good they do no harm from time to time. You are very judgemental from a position of little knowledge of the mass of the uk population. Most parents do the best they can within their budgets. Your fixation with food is more of a worry in case it causes your children eating problems in the future if you must pontificate at least get your facts right eg Heinz baked beans

Yes, I think that's a good point.

MsLavender · 23/07/2024 17:18

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:13

Of course not! I just cook with either pure tomatoes or tomato puree and there is no sugar in there and I add no extra sugar too...

Malta is our origin for whoever is so interested 😁

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_life_expectancy

Life expectancy difference between UK and Malta is about 1 year. If all you're gaining by never eating "bad" foods is 1 extra year then I'd rather have the cake, chocolate, sausages, ham, bacon etc than that 1 year.

List of European countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_life_expectancy

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:18

WonderfulUsername · 23/07/2024 17:16

We come from South Europe by the way

Which one of the 19 countries in South Europe OP?

She's Maltese.

So pasta, soups, risotto, bread etc.

IMAGINE THE SALT CONTENT AHHHH

Ophy83 · 23/07/2024 17:18

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:53

So, why I see sausages in most places that have kid menus and I have also friends that offer sausage with potato mash and gravy to their kids and it's meant to be healthy and appropriate?

I don't quite understand your point about sausages... Sausage forms a staple ingredient of many European cuisines including French, Italian and German. As with any meat, you wouldn't eat them every day and it's best to buy from a good butcher if you can

YOYOK · 23/07/2024 17:17

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:15

I absolutely get that but you form a habit there which stays with the kid past the school.

When we have lunch on Sunday he asks "and what is the pudding today?" or if we go out for dinner again "what dessert are we having?"

That's not right and it's all about habits!

There’s this word we use, I believe it is “no”.

Can I stay up later?
Can I watch TV before school?
Can I wear my wellies to school?
Can I bring my entire collection of dinosaurs to granddads 80th birthday?

Kids push boundaries.

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:17

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:15

I absolutely get that but you form a habit there which stays with the kid past the school.

When we have lunch on Sunday he asks "and what is the pudding today?" or if we go out for dinner again "what dessert are we having?"

That's not right and it's all about habits!

No, you parent your child because that’s your job

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 17:17

SocksAndTheCity · 23/07/2024 16:27

God alone knows. The salt content of Heinz beans is actually 0.6%, and the sugar 4.3% (or 0.6g and 4.3g per 100g respectively), so I think someone's got a bit confused Confused

Indeed, perhaps just a bit misinformed.

Jazz7 · 23/07/2024 17:17

What nonsense to damn all uk parents like this. Not many eat these things exclusively and provided the home diet is mostly good they do no harm from time to time. You are very judgemental from a position of little knowledge of the mass of the uk population. Most parents do the best they can within their budgets. Your fixation with food is more of a worry in case it causes your children eating problems in the future if you must pontificate at least get your facts right eg Heinz baked beans

knitnerd90 · 23/07/2024 17:17

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:14

@lovemycoffee2 if you don't add sugar to your tomato sauces I can guarantee your food is horrible!

Er, I don't. Or if I do, it's a teaspoon of sugar to correct the tomatoes from the added acid in the tinned ones. Not needed if they're fresh. If you add more than that you're getting into BBQ sauce realm.

Tinned beans are a different matter, they do add more to that (not as many as the American Heinz beans, which for historical reasons, have always been a sweeter recipe)

Brawcolli · 23/07/2024 17:17

@NotAlexa i can’t think of anything more harmful to a child’s relationship with food than showing them pictures of obese people and telling them that’s what’ll happen if they eat - gasp - processed foods!! I hope they don’t inherit your judgement of others and what seems to be a case of orthorexia.

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:17

mitogoshi · 23/07/2024 17:15

It's the Canadian label for beans by the way, good old google image search!

I was close with 'American'

Maybe I could say I meant 'North American continent'

WonderfulUsername · 23/07/2024 17:16

We come from South Europe by the way

Which one of the 19 countries in South Europe OP?

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:16

Then you need better boundaries at home and say no.

mitogoshi · 23/07/2024 17:15

It's the Canadian label for beans by the way, good old google image search!

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:15

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:14

@lovemycoffee2 if you don't add sugar to your tomato sauces I can guarantee your food is horrible!

I can also guarantee that you don't know how to cook if you rely on sugar to make it tasty 😂

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Simonjt · 23/07/2024 17:15

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:13

Of course not! I just cook with either pure tomatoes or tomato puree and there is no sugar in there and I add no extra sugar too...

Malta is our origin for whoever is so interested 😁

Sauces made from tomato puree taste absolutely awful, poorly based ones made from actual tomatoes don’t taste great either. Someone tried to convinve me they made a nice tomato based sauce, it turned out to be roasted tomatoes, basil and salt, awful.

AzureAnt · 23/07/2024 17:15

Oh look another Britain bashing post.
At least its not just the usual dig at England!!

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 17:15

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:00

Exactly! How is it healthy to have a dessert every day? Last week school menu had: Monday - Chocolate mousse, Tuesday - Lemon drizzle sponge, Wednesday - Chocolate sponge with chocolate sauce, Thursday - Jelly, Friday - pink Jam slice.

They are 4 years old!!!

I agree it is not a good habit to get the DC into.

Maddy70 · 23/07/2024 17:15

I agree with you op

I moved to Spain many years ago. kids lunches at school was fresh seafood, grilled fish. Veg etc

No one eats packet food here.

It was a shock to me when I moved as I honestly thought we ate healthily

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:15

poodlepompoms · 23/07/2024 17:13

You do realise that the aim is to fill the children full of calories (within approved macros) so at least they have had one filling meal a day?

Due to the controls on sugar and fat those will be joyless puddings and not what you’d get after Sunday lunch in a pub

I absolutely get that but you form a habit there which stays with the kid past the school.

When we have lunch on Sunday he asks "and what is the pudding today?" or if we go out for dinner again "what dessert are we having?"

That's not right and it's all about habits!

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hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:14

@lovemycoffee2 if you don't add sugar to your tomato sauces I can guarantee your food is horrible!

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:14

CelesteCunningham · 23/07/2024 17:14

My absolute favourite post on this thread is the one insisting there is no pizza on the continent. Absolutely brilliant.

No pizza, no tantrums, nothing unhealthy…

Blackcats7 · 23/07/2024 17:14

Stop feeding these evil beans!

little britain television GIF