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British kids and eating habits - IABU ?

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lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:17

I have two young kids and we live in the UK but we are not originally from here.

At home we cook everyday from scratch our food and we take that food at a lunch box at our workplace. We have a light dinner again made from scratch.

The issue is our kids which are of course going to school/nursery and they love to copy their friends!

In the UK it's healthy if a kid eats sausages (god knows what the meat has inside), or for example Heinz baked beans which have 10% sugar and 20% salt (leaving 70% being actual beans) or if they eat fish fingers which are pre-fried (even if you bake them they were already fried before got frozen) or chicken nuggets (again pre-fried which god knows what was the oil quality).

It's also acceptable to drink juices which have no sugar but plenty sweeteners.

Also, it's perfectly fine to have a ham sandwich for lunch which has ready made processed bread full of emulsifiers and ham which (like sausage) god knows what ingredients has.

It's ok that primary schools offer desserts, even if they are small portions and low sugar on a daily basis - not on a weekly or as special occasion! I don't have a dessert everyday, why my kid is offered one?

Honestly, are all these things ok? Am I paranoid?

I am very worried that the kids will either end up obsessed. with diabetes or with other health issues given all the processed food and the fact that we are what we eat.

YABU - are you crazy?

YANBU - unfortunately this is a "balanced healthy diet" in the UK!

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FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:28

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

Because, as advised several times above, you parent them and say no when necessary.

SlothOnARope · 23/07/2024 17:28

Having raised DC between the UK and Italy, for me this is an interesting thread. I can kind of see where OP is coming from, but in my experience neither country has a particularly good balance when it comes to children's diets and from what other posters are saying, it sounds like other European countries have similar problems.

A key difference I noticed is that British school dinners are indeed dreadful. (At dd's secondary I get the feeling they give the kids whatever they want just to get them into school. Giving them sugary junk as rewards for good behaviour etc). On the Continent most kids finish by lunchtime and so depending on the family they'll eat "proper" food twice a day. But their breakfasts are dire, UPFs and dairy no fruit or low sugar cereals. My DC used to get teased for having fruit at snack time instead of those crappy Kinder cake things in packets.

OP just send them in with healthy lunches and either ignore the "why can't I have that too" or explain what sugary junk does to their teeth and insides.

Fimbledore · 23/07/2024 17:28

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:05

Unfortunately some uneducated people don’t understand about the complexities of ARFID and autism (as well as other conditions that result in selective eating) and the impact it has.

Autistic adult here. Only started eating meat in last year after thirty five without, in attempt to improve nutrition.
Genuinely gutted to find out a ham sandwich isn't healthy.

jannier · 23/07/2024 17:28

So you won't give your children a packed lunch because they whine and moan their friends get the school puddings but you can't say no.....I'm glad they don't have temper tantrums then.

WonderfulUsername · 23/07/2024 17:27

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

You parent them, the same as we all parent our kids.

It's tough but it's called being a parent 🤷‍♀️

Did your midwife promise you an easy ride, is that why you're surprised you need to tell your child what you expect of them and stick to it?

YOYOK · 23/07/2024 17:27

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

You parent them. Hope this helps.
Do they not say “no” in Malta?
You don’t have to give in to every request.

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 17:27

Mirabai · 23/07/2024 17:20

Well now you know why 60% of British are overweight and obese. The preoccupation with UPFs knows no bounds.

Thats an estimate, not a fact.

SunshinePlease24 · 23/07/2024 17:27

mugboat · Today 16:34
children from other European countries do not have temper tantrums??? Who knew.

Having recently experienced families from other European countries at close quarters OP I can categorically state that you're deluded!

Rainbowsponge · 23/07/2024 17:26

I agree that comparatively speaking British children are very overweight and have a horrendous diet 🤷‍♀️

poodlepompoms · 23/07/2024 17:26

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:15

I absolutely get that but you form a habit there which stays with the kid past the school.

When we have lunch on Sunday he asks "and what is the pudding today?" or if we go out for dinner again "what dessert are we having?"

That's not right and it's all about habits!

So you say something about your body and brains needing lots of energy for a busy day at school, and we don’t need to have pudding today 🙄

You’re the parent

You are coming across as having food issues in your posts.

namely your reaction to the beef chilli, rice and nachos which would have been meat, loads of hidden veg, beans, rice and about 3 corn chips for crunch. Nothing to fret about.

If your son is picking up on this than that is probably why your son is obsessed with pudding.

Nout to do with a joyless flapjack at 12:30 on a Tuesday

LadyFeatheringt0n · 23/07/2024 17:26

Where do you live that people are eatimg like this?

My kids eat normal food. Vegetable curries, spaghetti bolognese, fish, loads of choices of veg, roast dinners etc, tuna sandwiches on home made bread, yoghurts without added sugar. They don't drink squash and only have juice on weekends.

Its cold and damp in winter so ime people don't eat "light" dinners as much because the weather really can sap your energy.

I dislike the anti dessert campaign. Traditional homemade desserts like rice puddings, custards and crumbles don't have to have a lot of sugar in or are sweetened by fruit. They are a good way to get things like eggs, milk and fruit into growing kids. Life doesn't have to be joyless, some low sugar desserts are really not a huge issue in moderation if you are doing plenty of exercise amd generally eating a broad and varied diet.

Zwicky · 23/07/2024 17:26

Howling at there being no pizza on “the continent”

Just make your own food if you don’t like other peoples. I, like dozens of other people, are from a culture where food, and the enjoyment of eating, is huge. I couldn’t cope with “why do you need a nacho”. We eat good quality, home cooked food 95% of the time but I dgaf if my dc eat a nacho or a slice of birthday cake or a packet of haribo every so often. Food is pleasure as well as basic fuel.

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:26

Simonjt · 23/07/2024 17:22

Our european toddler is currently having a huge tantrum because her papa won’t let her go in the pool on her own.

But that’s not possible!

foodforclouds · 23/07/2024 17:26

EllenLRipley · 23/07/2024 16:22

I've never met anyone in the UK who thinks sausage, beans, nuggets and fish fingers is healthy. Poor people have little choice often as fresh good quality food is very expensive.
I work with low income parents and all want the same things we all want for our children.
Perhaps try and be a bit more tolerant and kind, of other parents and also your ow children's personal preferences. Lots of adults love junk food too, all over the world. It is not a UK problem.

other countries may have problems too, but the UK definitely has a problem. The OP was not judging lower income parents who may struggle to afford healthier, pricier options.

Cinocino · 23/07/2024 17:26

TooManyCats2024 · 23/07/2024 17:19

And the children don’t have tantrums!

They don’t have tantrums … except the tantrums they have if OP sends them with a packed lunch 😂
So she takes the lazy parenting option of school dinners to avoid said tantrums I guess?

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:25

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

Discipline.

Or move back to your utopian country where absolutely no one is obese at all ever

Vergus · 23/07/2024 17:25

No this is not a UK problem. Really. You seem like you’re looking for bad examples. Not all kids are given fruit shoots, nuggets and pizza all the time! Lots of children eat very healthily in many households - salad, lean meat, whole-foods and water with their main meals.

And I honestly never knew that children on the continent never had temper tantrums. Similarly, the last time I looked, when I went to France for example, there were kids being stuffed with BN biscuits, hot dogs, ice-creams and yes, pizza. When we went to Germany I saw kids sitting down with plates loaded high with chips.

Oh, and our most recent trip to Spain - more chips! And I swear I saw a kid eating spaghetti out of a tin. But the very worst - a kid eating microwaved meatballs in sauce as a ready meal.

So…………not sure you’ve got the evidence base right for a sustained argument that kids in the UK eat any worse than kids on the continent.

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 17:25

mopton · 23/07/2024 17:18

I don't think you are being unreasonable really just a walk round any supermarket will show that most people have very few fresh items in their trolly or basket some onions or potatoes or a bunch of bananas and the rest of it is mostly pre-packaged highly processed food that can be eaten out the box or bag or popped in the microwave or fizzy drinks and alcohol. The diet of the average brit is dreadful having said that the cost of living is high and people work long hours and have limited time each night to cook and prep healthy food so I can see why people rely on convenience foods and takeaways.

Edited

Think thats saying plenty about the type of place you shop. Not everywhere is like that.

BaronessBomburst · 23/07/2024 17:25

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 17:21

Miserable? Just because they have beans in them?? I'm sure there are other ingredients too!

There are plenty of other things in there with the beans. 😂

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

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Tagyoureit · 23/07/2024 17:24

You sound like a food snob.

Our school is hot on healthy food, the school cooks food from locally sourced farms, has a salad bar etc.

If you don't want your kids to eat the school meal then give them a packed lunch, it's really that simple.

But try not to be so judgey of others who do eat it, for some kids that's they're most nutritious meal of the day.

jannier · 23/07/2024 17:24

This is the advice on fat intake for children....

British kids and eating habits - IABU ?
FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:24

Mirabai · 23/07/2024 17:20

Well now you know why 60% of British are overweight and obese. The preoccupation with UPFs knows no bounds.

Malta has for years topped overweight and obesity lists, with predictions by the World Obesity Federation published in March suggesting the problem is set to worsen and over a third of the adult population will be obese by 2030.

https://timesofmalta.com/article/more-than-75-of-maltese-men-are-overweight.952336

More than 75% of Maltese men are overweight

No other country in European region does worse, WHO report finds

https://timesofmalta.com/article/more-than-75-of-maltese-men-are-overweight.952336

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:24

@SummerDays2020 me too, took me a while to get truth be told. Then it was very obvious Blush

Vizella · 23/07/2024 17:24

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 16:33

I think you've misunderstood. No one thinks sausages and chicken nuggets are healthy.

And juices with sweetener? Like Capri sun do you mean? I would consider that an occasional drink. My DC drink water mainly and sometimes some fresh juice or a milkshake.

I agree lots of people do seem to eat cheap bread and ham. Our bread comes from the bakery and we don't eat ham.

And I agree school lunches are dreadful including the dessert every day. But just wait til high school - it gets 10x worse! I wouldn't mind just fruit and yogurt offered, though. That's what mine have after dinner if they are still hungry. Occasionally I will make a dessert like a crumble or cheesecake.

I think you need to stop worrying about what other people are doing and feed your kids how you prefer. Most parents are trying their best.

I don't think your DC will be obsessed with diabetes?!

Plenty of us are into nutrition and feeding our DC healthy food. It's not that unusual!

What kind of things do you give your DC for lunch at school? Always looking for new ideas!

I think she means obese with diabetes.

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