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DH not knowing obvious things he used to know

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Cheek2cheek · 23/07/2024 11:10

Eg that fish are cold blooded and insects have 6 legs. (DH is very intelligent, degree from Oxford, science background).

He’s nearly 50. Is it normal just to forget things that you used to know? It’s worrying me as it reminds me of when my granny (with dementia) forgot that children lose their teeth and had a freak out about DS’s happy smile.

AIBU to be slightly worried?

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Grammarnut · 25/07/2024 13:36

Anyotherdude · 25/07/2024 13:20

Because I prefer Rock and Pop music - which were frowned upon in my childhood household.
I do retain some of it, but knowledge of which symphony by Mozart is being played has… well, drifted, and I can only remember those that I actually liked as a child and teen.
I’m sure that when I start to experience Dementia, it will all come back!
In the meantime, the music round in Pub Quizzes remains a bit hit and miss… (unless, of course, it’s on Rock and Pop😝)

One can like both. I enjoy the Velvet Underground and Hildegarde of Bingen, the Rolling Stones and Monteverdi. My late DH introduced me to rock music but never got the hang of the classical music I liked - though he enjoyed the odd opera we saw before his hearing deteriorated and theatres, cinemas etc became impossible (hearing aids made the sound a bit tinny - expensive items, too).
My DM had been moving towards dementia when she died at 96. She remembered things that happened when she was a child and forgot recent events - even bits of the conversation currently ongoing. Her loss of short-term memory had a lot to do with the death of my youngest brother - she essentially forgot anything that had happened after that. It was disconcerting but we all persevered. I miss that I cannot talk to her about her trip to the Isle of Wight when she was ten and the ferry ran aground...

Grammarnut · 25/07/2024 13:26

Joystir59 · 25/07/2024 10:33

I'm 66 and find I really don't want to hold information in my head- I use Google as an extension of my brain. I no longer enjoy or thrill at my ability to store useless information. My exam passing days are long done with. It's a bit akin to decluttering my home and life in general in a bid to live as simply as possible. I remember important stuff to do with my daily life and my activities (I'm an artist). I suppose I live more in the moment than I used to.

How do you know when to consult Google? Your brain stores knowledge whether you tell it to or not, though the stuff that matters tends to be acquired by rehearsal and repetition. Information is not the same as knowledge btw. I can go and look up black holes, but I won't be able to say anything meaningful about them and may not understand what I read without a decent physics background (my brain will have all that information to pull forward when I need it). I can hold 4 ideas at a time in the front of my mind, but need the background knowledge I (we all) forget I have, to manipulate those ideas. We can only think about things we know - which is why my thoughts on black holes is useless (though I might refer to them when writing SciFi, and have a general understanding of what is implied if they turn up in a SciFi story I read).

Anyotherdude · 25/07/2024 13:20

Grammarnut · 25/07/2024 10:05

Why have you abandoned the wonders of classical music?
Knowledge does not disappear - you do not forget it - it becomes part of the knowledge schema in your brain, and emerges when you need it, which is why most of us do not realise we are using that knowledge, we just know a barrel is for holding e.g. beer. If someone is forgetting things like insects having six legs that suggests something other than just not remembering stuff from long ago.

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Because I prefer Rock and Pop music - which were frowned upon in my childhood household.
I do retain some of it, but knowledge of which symphony by Mozart is being played has… well, drifted, and I can only remember those that I actually liked as a child and teen.
I’m sure that when I start to experience Dementia, it will all come back!
In the meantime, the music round in Pub Quizzes remains a bit hit and miss… (unless, of course, it’s on Rock and Pop😝)

Huckleberries73 · 25/07/2024 12:36

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BeanCountingContinues · 25/07/2024 12:34

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/07/2024 13:04

Insects have too many legs, that’s the problem. How many too many is irrelevant.

😂

Bin85 · 25/07/2024 12:18

This could be a cognitive stroke which can come on gradually.
Please see GP for mini mental test and probable referral to stroke department at hospital.
Do it urgently.

HeadNorth · 25/07/2024 12:08

Dementia doesn't always first show as memory loss, in the traditional sense, but as cognitive impairment. My mum's husband got lost following a familiar route. After a lifetime of DIY, he couldn't fix a hinge on a gate. It is irrelevant if other people could follow a route or hinge gates - this was out of character for him.

My mum voiced the same concerns as the OP, but was brushed off the way many posters are here - we all forget things as we age, I'm always forgetting names etc. But she knew this was not right for him. And she was right.

Sadly, it made no difference, it was very difficult to get the dementia diagnosis until he was much further advanced and there is no treatment in any case. I am so sorry, OP, but trust your instincts, you know him best.

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/07/2024 11:56

It does sound concerning, OP. Are there any other changes in him? My aunt had early onset dementia and she became very self-centred. When we had phone calls with her she would talk only about herself and her dogs.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 25/07/2024 11:54

BobbyBiscuits · 23/07/2024 13:13

I didn't know all insects had 6 legs, what about millipedes and stuff? Lol. And fish? I'd never been taught about what kind of blood they have.

I guess I'm not an Oxbridge Educated scientist. But is he forgetting people's names, placing objects in weird places, repeating himself a lot?

My MiL got dementia in her early 60s, it was very distressing. I hope it's not that. It's probably not. But would he see the GP?

Millipedes aren't true 'insects' but a different class of arthropods. Warm/cold blood is definitely taught Year 2 at school, possibly Year 1 too. I would tend to expect this stuff to be bread and butter to an Oxbridge scientist.

I do think it's a little concerning OP, although I thought dementia affected ST memory more and it may be this feature of memory loss called 'transcience' that PP mentioned - clearing out old facts not used in a while to make space for new. Here are some comparatives I found:

  • Normal Aging: The person complains of memory loss but can provide considerable detail regarding incidents of forgetfulness.
  • Dementia: The person complains of memory problems only if specifically asked and cannot recall instances when memory loss was noticeable.
  • Normal Aging: The individual is more concerned about perceived forgetfulness than close family members are.
  • Dementia: Close family members are much more concerned than the individual is about incidents of memory loss
  • Normal Aging: Recent memory for important events, affairs and conversations is not impaired.
  • Dementia: Recent memory for events and ability to converse are both noticeably impaired.
  • Normal Aging: The person has occasional difficulty finding words.
  • Dementia: The person makes frequent word-finding pauses and substitutions.
MrHarleyQuin · 25/07/2024 11:27

Either that or I didn't make the coffee and we have a helpful ghost.

MrHarleyQuin · 25/07/2024 11:27

I'm 48 and my brain forgets I made myself a coffee two minutes ago.

Quite often I take another cup out of the cupboard and go to the coffee machine...oh thank you two minutes ago me!

ErrolTheDragon · 25/07/2024 11:18

The thing about insects legs is that we see insects around, I'd have thought this was the sort of fact that once you know it there would be regular reminders of.

I'd be curious to know if the OPs DH would know that a spider wasn't an insect, and if he thought about how he knew for a second then would know 8 vs 6 legs.

BonifaceBonanza · 25/07/2024 10:48

@Cheek2cheek when you say you’re going to wait and see, what exactly are you waiting for?
If this isn’t a brief short term thing associated with a bump in the head or a bad bout of Covid etc then there’s nothing to be gained by waiting. Surely the earlier any issue is addressed the better?

outdamnedspots · 25/07/2024 10:44

If he's forgetting things that are fundamental basic knowledge for him (and those things are basic if you have good general knowledge and/or are a scientist), then I'd say he needs to be checked out medically.

Joystir59 · 25/07/2024 10:33

I'm 66 and find I really don't want to hold information in my head- I use Google as an extension of my brain. I no longer enjoy or thrill at my ability to store useless information. My exam passing days are long done with. It's a bit akin to decluttering my home and life in general in a bid to live as simply as possible. I remember important stuff to do with my daily life and my activities (I'm an artist). I suppose I live more in the moment than I used to.

Grammarnut · 25/07/2024 10:19

BonifaceBonanza · 25/07/2024 07:32

Yes it is. Just because you dont know the current VAT rate, to an accountant this is similar to insects having 6 legs for a scientist

If he has a science background (forgot this) then forgetting insects have six legs is a major thing.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/07/2024 10:11

I’m 60 and have been momentarily forgetting things, names of books, films, where I put the keys, etc. for 2 or 3 years now. Very, very different to my mum’s dementia (I’m assured by my family) and I think pretty standard.

How does he react when you mention it? If my family had concerns I’d be more than happy to talk to the GP. Mum however was furious at the suggestion that anything was wrong and is still in complete denial even though it’s now crystal clear to everyone. I gather that’s quite common.

Grammarnut · 25/07/2024 10:05

Anyotherdude · 24/07/2024 22:41

I think it depends on whether you’re interested or not.
I grew up in an aggressively musical (classical) family, but although I feigned interest and could recognise composers and pieces when young, since I’ve grown and made my own way, I can no longer tell someone what music they’re hearing, or who composed it, as I would have been able to when I was younger. It’s simply irrelevant to me now - as I’ve discovered what I’m interested in, and have discarded the irrelevant (pressed upon me) knowledge of my youth…

Why have you abandoned the wonders of classical music?
Knowledge does not disappear - you do not forget it - it becomes part of the knowledge schema in your brain, and emerges when you need it, which is why most of us do not realise we are using that knowledge, we just know a barrel is for holding e.g. beer. If someone is forgetting things like insects having six legs that suggests something other than just not remembering stuff from long ago.

eggplant16 · 25/07/2024 08:26

Is he invested or interested in remembering these things?

Huckleberries73 · 25/07/2024 08:23

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Towerofsong · 25/07/2024 08:18

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/07/2024 13:04

Insects have too many legs, that’s the problem. How many too many is irrelevant.

😂😂😂

ManchesterGirl2 · 25/07/2024 08:14

somepeopleareunbelievable · 24/07/2024 23:12

I have a very high IQ (it's relevant) and I'm prone to complete lapses in memory around stuff I should definitely know (and have known) e.g. the other day I couldn't remember if a whale is a mammal. I think for me it's because my brain works a bit fast and then I forget simple stuff (I wonder if I have some sort of ADHD). But the important thing is that once I think about it (and google if required) I think "oh yes, of course that is the case, I knew that and was being ridiculous". I can laugh at my own dopiness...and know it's just because I've got too much going on in my head. So I think his reaction is really important - if he's confused or disorientated or worried himself then it's likely much more serious than if he just thinks his "moment" is funny.

Similarly, I forget obvious stuff, but I'm just generally quite ditzy. If it's a change from his normal way of behaving, that's concerning.

Jurassicparkinajug · 25/07/2024 07:58

there are other reasons for lapses in memory. Since having Covid my memory is awful. At one point i forgot how to tell the time, it was quite scary. I’ve forgotten loads of things I used to know. But it’s getting better. Now im approaching menopause though so it may all go wrong again.

Cheek2cheek · 25/07/2024 07:39

Thanks for all the replies on this thread and especially those who understood the sort of lapses I was describing- not saying that everyone should know X or Y but that X or Y are foundational knowledge for my DH so not like forgetting an address or a birthday.

I will keep an eye on him and maybe suggest the Gp if things continue.

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BonifaceBonanza · 25/07/2024 07:32

Grammarnut · 24/07/2024 22:31

That's not quite the same as forgetting that insects have six legs.

Yes it is. Just because you dont know the current VAT rate, to an accountant this is similar to insects having 6 legs for a scientist

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